Friday, July 21st 2017

Blizzard to Discontinue Support for Windows XP, Vista

Blizzard, best known for their Starcraft, Warcraft, and Diablo series (who are also responsible for that phenomenon World of Warcraft), has recently announced they are going to cut back support for older Windows-based operating systems. Resource allocation is a real problem; the opportunity cost of having engineers working on ensuring that their most recent updates and recent remasters aren't breaking support for older operating systems always comes at the cost of work on newer OSes.

As such, in a blog post on their forums, Blizzard has announced that starting in October of this year, "we will begin the process of ending support for Windows XP and Windows Vista in World of Warcraft, StarCraft II, Diablo III, Hearthstone, and Heroes of the Storm." They went on to explain this decision, in that "Microsoft ceased mainstream support for these versions of Windows in 2009 and 2012, respectively, but since a decent portion of our audience was still using them at the time, we continued supporting them. However, there have been three major Windows releases since Vista, and at this point, the vast majority of our audience has upgraded to one of the newer versions." And if you're thinking that this isn't true end of life for these systems when it comes to Blizzard game support, think again: "The games will not run on these older operating systems once they are no longer supported, so we encourage any players who are still using one of the older OSes to upgrade to a newer version. We'll be rolling out this change on a staggered schedule, and will post further notices as we get closer to making the change for each game."
Source: Blizzard @ Battle.net Forums
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25 Comments on Blizzard to Discontinue Support for Windows XP, Vista

#1
DeathtoGnomes
(who are also responsible for that phenomenon World of Warcraft)
phenomenon? really? damn fanboi...:p:kookoo:
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Raevenlord
News Editor
DeathtoGnomes
phenomenon? really? damn fanboi...:p:kookoo:
Hey!! =( Never played it, but my cousin's third cousin says that's true... :roll::rolleyes:
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#3
DeathtoGnomes
Raevenlord
Hey!! =( Never played it, but my cousin's third cousin says that's true... :roll::rolleyes:
so your sister? :roll:
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#4
Easo
DeathtoGnomes
phenomenon? really? damn fanboi...:p:kookoo:
Yes, it is in MMO genre. Has been the most played paid MMO for more than a decade already.
Thus you can easily call it phenomenon.
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#5
dj-electric
DeathtoGnomes
phenomenon? really? damn fanboi...:p:kookoo:
WoW is a huge phenomenon. I can't think of a more influential online game in PC history
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#6
Red_Machine
Dj-ElectriC
WoW is a huge phenomenon. I can't think of a more influential online game in PC history
Ultima Online? It's still going after 20 years.
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#7
Ubersonic
I'm okay with companies ceasing to support their software on an O/S, but rigging their software to refuse to install or run on that O/S is just a scumbag move. They did the same thing with 98/2000 a number of years back. What makes is even scummier is when the O/S being blocked has defacto support though it's sister O/S (I.E 2000 being supported via XP, and Vista bing supported via 7/8/10).


Red_Machine
Ultima Online? It's still going after 20 years.
Never achieved the same popularity/notoriety though did it?
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#8
Tomgang
Ending support for xp/vista, i am fine with that. Microsoft ended all support/updates in 2014 for xp if i remember correct. That means xp is a major security risk and its about time to move on to a newer os any way.

Old pc can run win 10 just fine. My old x58 system runs it fine and have no problems with it. X58 is released 9 years a go, so if your pc cant run win 10 you must have a very old system then.

Come on people xp is out dated and a major securety risk. Its time to upgrade. If you still run xp you are nuts :kookoo:
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#9
Ahhzz
Dj-ElectriC
WoW is a huge phenomenon. I can't think of a more influential online game in PC history
i could make a list (and I think we actually have lol), but WoW would still rank in the top 10 if not top 5


Red_Machine
Ultima Online? It's still going after 20 years.
As unique as UO was at the time, I wouldn't put it over WoW as far as influential. Meh, it's all opinion anyway :)
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#10
Mescalamba
Ubersonic
I'm okay with companies ceasing to support their software on an O/S, but rigging their software to refuse to install or run on that O/S is just a scumbag move. They did the same thing with 98/2000 a number of years back. What makes is even scummier is when the O/S being blocked has defacto support though it's sister O/S (I.E 2000 being supported via XP, and Vista bing supported via 7/8/10).



Never achieved the same popularity/notoriety though did it?
Did not, but a lot of stuff in MMORPGs is cause of UO. They pioneered genre I would say.

Maybe not same popularity, but hey.. it runs after 20 years. Not sure WoW will have 20 yrs birthday. I would certainly prefer if it did not.

IMHO, current best MMO is TESO.
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#11
5DVX0130
Only played WOW two times. Both was the free trial, and a couple of years between each playthrough.

First time I tried it, well to simply say it … I was amazed.
It was light years ahead of it competition, and felt like a game you wouldn’t actually mind paying for each month.

Second time, wasn’t impressed so much.
It was still stuck on DX9, and looked like shit in comparison to the newer games.
The community wasn’t much better, or maybe I just picked a bad server.
It wasn’t really offering much in comparison to what you could get somewhere else.
Ubersonic
I'm okay with companies ceasing to support their software on an O/S, but rigging their software to refuse to install or run on that O/S is just a scumbag move. They did the same thing with 98/2000 a number of years back. What makes is even scummier is when the O/S being blocked has defacto support though it's sister O/S (I.E 2000 being supported via XP, and Vista bing supported via 7/8/10).
Well it might seem like a scummy move, but you have to also consider all the additional work it has to go in the game for it to support all the legacy operating systems. Plus all the additional security issues, and you are also hindered by the lack of Direct X support. Without XP/Vista they can finally completely drop the old DX9 engine, and focus more on DX11/DX12. Seeing as there are no plans for WOW2, they do need to focus on making the game look as fresh as they can.
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#12
Ahhzz
5DVX0130
Only played WOW two times. Both was the free trial, and a couple of years between each playthrough.

First time I tried it, well to simply say it … I was amazed.
It was light years ahead of it competition, and felt like a game you wouldn’t actually mind paying for each month.

Second time, wasn’t impressed so much.
It was still stuck on DX9, and looked like shit in comparison to the newer games.
The community wasn’t much better, or maybe I just picked a bad server.
It wasn’t really offering much in comparison to what you could get somewhere else.

Well it might seem like a scummy move, but you have to also consider all the additional work it has to go in the game for it to support all the legacy operating systems. Plus all the additional security issues, and you are also hindered by the lack of Direct X support. Without XP/Vista they can finally completely drop the old DX9 engine, and focus more on DX11/DX12. Seeing as there are no plans for WOW2, they do need to focus on making the game look as fresh as they can.
as much as I hate it, I have the same basic memory as you. I was in an early beta for WoW, and was amazed... the screen started shaking very close to the end of my first beta, and I couldn't figure out why, then this huge Guardian Tree walked by, and I just sat there with my mouth open hahah. A few years later, with the competition zooming by with newer technology and engines, and WoW was definitely looking dated....
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#13
natr0n
How many Direct X versions has this game supported ? 4-5
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#14
Prima.Vera
That's a scumbag move from Bli$$ard. And the excuses are pathetic and lame. Not enough resources??? That's a laugh coming from a multi billion $ company....
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#15
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Prima.Vera
That's a scumbag move from Bli$$ard. And the excuses are pathetic and lame. Not enough resources??? That's a laugh coming from a multi billion $ company....
You make funny joke.

As for WoWs influence: I would argue it's on the top spot. UO has ran for longer, but WoW is the bar for MMORPGs and has been for more than a decade. Being the bar to beat makes you influental as others have to look at what works for you and do those thing better.
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#16
remixedcat
no bitches the best mmo is tibia because my 14th cousin 123x removed says so XD
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#17
DeathtoGnomes
WoW became successful because they made it easy, and appear even easier to play. Some other MMO at that time, dropped you off at the bus stop and shoved you out and said have fun only to die at the first mob you encountered. EQ1 did that.
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#18
Mussels
Moderprator
Good good, now they just need to port all their games to DX12...
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#19
Easo
Prima.Vera
That's a scumbag move from Bli$$ard. And the excuses are pathetic and lame. Not enough resources??? That's a laugh coming from a multi billion $ company....
Exactly why? Can you explain it?
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#20
Prima.Vera
Easo
Exactly why? Can you explain it?
Because right now I can play WOW, S2 and D3 on my XP laptop without any issues.
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#21
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Prima.Vera
Because right now I can play WOW, S2 and D3 on my XP laptop without any issues.
But why would you?
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#22
Mussels
Moderprator
If it can run those games, it can run better than XP.
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#23
Prima.Vera
Mussels
If it can run those games, it can run better than XP.
No, because nVidia Video drivers are junk on Win 10, not to mention the Sound ones that are only half functional. No bass/treble control and no woofer slider....
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#25
Easo
Prima.Vera
Because right now I can play WOW, S2 and D3 on my XP laptop without any issues.
Times change, game requirements change too. You are asking Blizzard to support OS, which itself has been dead since 2014. Meaning, if anything happens, let's say there is a new update, but it crashes on XP due to some very rare and specific condition, Blizzard might not be able to fix it without MS assistance. But the MS will not provide this assistance. What now?
Plus, it is not economical to catter the absolute minority by now. I am pretty sure Blizzard want's to get rid of the legacy code, especially for the graphics (XP was what, DX7.0 originally?) and just move everything over to DX11.
What's more, will you also argue that Blizzard is bad because they have raised system requirements for WoW? It used to run on max on Pentium 4 back in 2004, yet the minimum required CPU has been a dual core and DX10 capable GPU at least since the WoD. Are they guilty that WoW is not supposed to be run on single core systems anymore? Or what about removing Windows 98 compatibility? ME? 2000?
P.S.
Pretty sure they also don't want to deal with stolen account info because someone run on XP, which got some keylogger. Chances of getting one increases greatly if the OS is unsupported by it's creators.
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