Thursday, January 11th 2018

EVGA's Gargantuan SuperNova 2200W P2 Can Jumpstart Your Pickup Truck

EVGA this CES showed off its flagship PSU, the massive SuperNova 2200W P2. This unit has enough juice to power a gaming+mining rig with up to 9 graphics cards, or to jumpstart a pickup truck. Under the hood, it features a single +12V rail design, with an impressive 183.3A +12V rail (~2199W), and 24A rails over the +5V and +3.3V domains that work out to 120W. DC-to-DC switching converts power between the domains. The PSU boasts of 80 Plus Platinum switching efficiency. A 140 mm fan keeps the unit cool. Among its constellation of output connectors are one 24-pin ATX, two 4+4 pin EPS, eighteen 6+2 pin PCIe, twelve SATA power, six Molex, and two Berg.
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26 Comments on EVGA's Gargantuan SuperNova 2200W P2 Can Jumpstart Your Pickup Truck

#1
Psinet
Just to be clear, this will start several vehicles simultaneously.
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#3
Liviu Cojocaru
It depends on the price but this could be miners delight :D
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#4
cryohellinc
Medical sector will buy those for defibrillators.
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#5
CheapMeat
I want to see this wattage level in an SFX-L form, hah. Just give us two 8-pin EPS connectors though.
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#6
phill
Does it come in white?? :)
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#7
_JP_
I bet I could power an arc furnace with this
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#8
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
or to jumpstart a pickup truck
I'm calling foul. I would need to see this thing jumping a truck because by itself < 200A @ 12v is probably pushing it even for a 2.0L 4-banger.
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#9
jabbadap
Damn, that one needs 16A fuse @ 230V.
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#10
mamatox
Aquinus said:
I'm calling foul. I would need to see this thing jumping a truck because by itself < 200A @ 12v is probably pushing it even for a 2.0L 4-banger.
Hey, my 5.6 liter has a 100A battery. And it starts every-time. :P
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jabbadap
mamatox said:
Hey, my 5.6 liter has a 100A battery. And it starts every-time. :p
What that supposed to mean? Some 5.6 liter car needs about 600 Amps from Battery for cold cranking. Do you mean you have 100Ah battery(Ah is unit for electric charge) on your car or what, it probably have CCA somewhere 700 Amps.
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#12
noname00
mamatox said:
Hey, my 5.6 liter has a 100A battery. And it starts every-time. :p
Automotive batteries are usually rated for a max start current of over 500A
Your battery is rated at 100Ah, which is the capacity of the battery.

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#13
Milky
jabbadap said:
Damn, that one needs 16A fuse @ 230V.
13A should be plenty.
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#14
Freedom4556
Aquinus said:
I'm calling foul. I would need to see this thing jumping a truck because by itself < 200A @ 12v is probably pushing it even for a 2.0L 4-banger.
It is, however, more amps than most alternators. A 5.7L V8 on a new American pickup only puts out ~150A at 12V.
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#15
jabbadap
Milky said:
13A should be plenty.
Well there's no such Fuses here where I live: 6A, 10A, 16A and 25A are the most common ones.
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#16
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Aquinus said:
I'm calling foul. I would need to see this thing jumping a truck because by itself < 200A @ 12v is probably pushing it even for a 2.0L 4-banger.
I'm sure it could if the battery was right on the edge. I've got a small 100A battery charger, and often times on the cold morning when my 1998 5.7L Silverado wouldn't start, simply connecting the charger added enough to get the engine to turn over and start. In most cases, unless the battery is totally fried, it only takes that extra little bit to get what you need to start the vehicle. But, yeah, if someone left their lights on all night, you'd have to sit and let it charge for awhile.
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#17
Brusfantomet
well, when CM does it with 500W it shuld be easy picings with 2200W
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#19
LTUGamer
CheapMeat said:
I want to see this wattage level in an SFX-L form, hah. Just give us two 8-pin EPS connectors though.
How many MiniITX cards supports 2x8pin connectors? And why MiniITX system needs more than 500W of power? It is just single GPU system.
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#20
Valantar
Psinet said:
Just to be clear, this will start several vehicles simultaneously.
According to various posts Google showed me, car starter motors draw 100A or more, but always many times this during a few miliseconds during initial spin-up (when the motor goes from static to moving). 6-700A was thrown around frequently. That would trigger OCP or blow up most, if not all PSUs - including this one. As such, the 183A on the 12V rail here would probably not be sufficient for even one, although that probably depends on the starter motor, engine size and a whole host of other factors. Definitely not multiple cars, though.

LTUGamer said:
How many MiniITX cards supports 2x8pin connectors? And why MiniITX system needs more than 500W of power? It is just single GPU system.
There are a few cases out there these days for ATX and mATX with SFX(-l) PSU mounts. Sensible, really, given that you can get 800W or more in SFX-L size these days.
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#21
xBruce88x
OK all this talk about car parts I gotta chime in a little.

Yes most car alternators are between 65A and 150A, at 14.4v when running (not just 12). Or 936 to 2160w. This is not what starts your car, that's the battery. The alternator generates enough current to run the car's other electrical stuff and charge the battery while you drive. This is why sometimes you may notice your car having trouble starting after making a lot of short trips. Pro tip, if your battery is low and you have a manual transmission car, you can do what's called roll starting. The battery usually needs a large capacity to run the starter. The starter has to get enough power to turn over the whole engine. In many cars the starter in a 4 banger may not be much smaller than a V8, although some do have much larger starters. Most batteries I've seen range form 440A to 800A, stock. That's about 5000 to 9600 watt depending on the starter size. Also, keep in mind the battery usually can't run this much power much longer than a minute or so of trying to start the car. Remember, the starter runs off the battery trying to turn the crankshaft of the engine, which moves your timing belts/chain, camshafts, pistons, valves, water pump, distributor (older cars) and all accessory belts as well and so on. So the more things running off your engine, the harder it would be to start. Some people buy a larger battery so that they either get a quicker start up or so they have more power when it's cold, as you could lose quite a bit of battery amps in cold weather. Another reason is for people who have larger stereo systems that need a lot of juice, like sub-woofers. This is why sometimes you'll see a car's lights dim while the bass hits. A capacitor, larger battery, or higher amp alternator usually helps, or all 3.

As for the power supply... I don't think I could even use that thing in my apartment lol. I like that it supports basically 3 high end cards in SLI/Crossfire. I've seen a handful of high end cards that use 3 8pin connectors. I don't just mean a 1080 or titan, I'm talking the custom stuff. Not that I could afford either, though a customer of mine might in the future.
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#22
magpiesvk
Psinet said:
Just to be clear, this will start several vehicles simultaneously.
I really doubt several but one should be okay. Still prety impresive power supply.
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#23
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
magpiesvk said:
I really doubt several but one should be okay. Still prety impresive power supply.
I think he (or she,) is being sarcastic. :ohwell:
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#24
CheapMeat
LTUGamer said:
How many MiniITX cards supports 2x8pin connectors? And why MiniITX system needs more than 500W of power? It is just single GPU system.
I'm talking about EPS for the motherboard, NOT GPU. There's a difference. Lots of workstation motherboards, especially 2P motherboards, have either 1x8pin EPS and 1x4pin EPS or 2x8pin EPS. These are for MOTHERBOARD power for the CPU(s). NOT GPUs. Every single SFX and SFX-L PSU out there that I know of only has ONE 8-pin EPS connector. I don't want huge PSU's any more. It's a waste of space in every single way, especially in a rack chassis. We care so much about progress in CPU & GPU design, yet PSU designs are slow in progress.
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#25
Valantar
CheapMeat said:
I'm talking about EPS for the motherboard, NOT GPU. There's a difference. Lots of workstation motherboards, especially 2P motherboards, have either 1x8pin EPS and 1x4pin EPS or 2x8pin EPS. These are for MOTHERBOARD power for the CPU(s). NOT GPUs. Every single SFX and SFX-L PSU out there that I know of only has ONE 8-pin EPS connector. I don't want huge PSU's any more. It's a waste of space in every single way, especially in a rack chassis. We care so much about progress in CPU & GPU design, yet PSU designs are slow in progress.
While I agree on the space savings/form factor argument, saying PSU designs are slow in progress is a half truth at best. Efficiency, voltage regulation, ripple/noise, power density and a whole host of other metrics have improved dramatically in the last decade. Is progress slower than for example CPUs? Of course, but comparing "progress" across radically different components like this can't be done that easily. Heck, high power SFX designs are possible exactly because of the improvements achieved in layer years.

As for use in a rack chassis, why not use server grade 1U/2U PSUs? Sure, they're more expensive, but far more compact again, and usually the best quality you can find. Of course they're also noisy as all hell, but that comes with the territory.
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