Sunday, September 3rd 2017

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Benchmarks Allegedly Leaked- Twice

Caveat emptor, take this with a grain of salt, and the usual warnings when dealing with rumors about hardware performance come to mind here foremost. That said, a Turkish YouTuber, PC Hocasi TV, put up and then quickly took back down a video going through his benchmark results for the new NVIDIA GPU flagship, the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti across a plethora of game titles. The results, which you can see by clicking to read the whole story, are not out of line but some of the game titles involve a beta stage (Battlefield 5) and an online shooter (PUBG) so there is a second grain of salt needed to season this gravy.

As it stands, 3DCenter.org put together a nice summary of the relative performance of the RTX 2080 Ti compared to the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti from last generation. Based on these results, the RTX 20T0 Ti is approximately 37.5% better than the GTX 1080 Ti as far as average FPS goes and ~30% better on minimum FPS. These are in line with expectations from hardware analysts and the timing of these results tying in to when the GPU launches does lead some credence to the numbers. Adding to this leak is yet another, this time based off a 3DMark Time Spy benchmark, which we will see past the break.
The second leak in question is from an anonymous source to VideoCardz.com that sent a photograph of a monitor displaying a 3DMark Time Spy result for a generic NVIDIA graphics device with code name 1E07 and 11 GB of VRAM on board. With a graphics score of 12, 825, this is approximately 35% higher than the average score of ~9500 for the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition. This increase in performance matches up closely to the average increase in game benchmarks seen before and, if these stand with release drivers as well, then the RTX 2080 Ti brings with it a decent but not overwhelming performance increase compared to the previous generation in titles that do not make use of in-game real-time ray tracing. As always, look out for a detailed review on TechPowerUp before making up your minds on whether this is the GPU for you.
For those interested, screenshots of the first set of benchmarks are attached below (taken from Joker Productions on YouTube):
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86 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Benchmarks Allegedly Leaked- Twice

#1
Darksword
I'd be interested to see what the difference is at equal clock speeds.

The 2080 Ti FE comes overclocked out of the box and should run cooler, which means it can sustain much higher clocks than the stock 1080 Ti FE.
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#2
champsilva
I think it's fake, nvidia is holding the drivers.
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#3
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
champsilva said:
I think it's fake, nvidia is holding the drivers.
the 3dmark one is real, because that is a early driver that doesnt even include the name of the card. but the device id is correct.
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#4
dj-electric
champsilva said:
I think it's fake, nvidia is holding the drivers.
I do fully agree with the second part. NVIDIA is holding the unlocked driver and only giving it via mail after a short research.
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#5
Nkd
Darksword said:
I'd be interested to see what the difference is at equal clock speeds.

The 2080 Ti FE comes overclocked out of the box and should run cooler, which means it can sustain much higher clocks than the stock 1080 Ti FE.
Same here. Nvidia OC'ed the cards out of the box and will better cooling its likely boosting much higher than 1080ti stock.
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#6
RejZoR
If true, it doesn't look all that much better. They can brag about Ray Tracing, but in stuff we have now, it's often just tiny bit faster. I guess we won't be switching to new generation all that much and this also somewhat confirms all this crazy secrecy and why no one is talking performance, not even NVIDIA. just ray tracing this, ray tracing that.
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#7
BadFrog
dj-electric said:
I do fully agree with the second part. NVIDIA is holding the unlocked driver and only giving it via mail after a short research.
What’s the advantage for nvidia to withhold drivers? Would the driver be better? Wouldn’t that help them?
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#8
xkm1948
RejZoR said:
If true, it doesn't look all that much better. They can brag about Ray Tracing, but in stuff we have now, it's often just tiny bit faster. I guess we won't be switching to new generation all that much and this also somewhat confirms all this crazy secrecy and why no one is talking performance, not even NVIDIA. just ray tracing this, ray tracing that.
I would not call 30%+ "tiny bit"

People got spoiled with Maxwell--->Pascal, completely ignoring the fact the previous gen was stuck in 28nm for a long time.

Meanwhile I will keep my pre-order. Any 20XX is better than my current GPU that is for sure.
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#9
Sandbo
It depends on your pocket but with that price jump I can’t say it’s worth it. Especially 1080Ti are now significantly cheaper.
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#10
xkm1948
Sandbo said:
It depends on your pocket but with that price jump I can’t say it’s worth it. Especially 1080Ti are now significantly cheaper.
Meh, why buy old stuff?
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#11
Nkd
xkm1948 said:
I would not call 30%+ "tiny bit"

People got spoiled with Maxwell--->Pascal, completely ignoring the fact the previous gen was stuck in 28nm for a long time.

Meanwhile I will keep my pre-order. Any 20XX is better than my current GPU that is for sure.
30% for almost double the price! When you look at it that way its Nvidia raping wallets lol! Then again if you got the money go for it. All power to you.
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#12
Fluffmeister
xkm1948 said:
I would not call 30%+ "tiny bit"

People got spoiled with Maxwell--->Pascal, completely ignoring the fact the previous gen was stuck in 28nm for a long time.

Meanwhile I will keep my pre-order. Any 20XX is better than my current GPU that is for sure.
Indeed my friend, 30%+ faster than a card that is already 30% faster than the best the competition offers equals.... pretty fast to me.

Salt dose aside, It's fast, it's expensive, shock horror! You want the best, you pay for it.
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#13
coonbro
Darksword said:
I'd be interested to see what the difference is at equal clock speeds.

The 2080 Ti FE comes overclocked out of the box and should run cooler, which means it can sustain much higher clocks than the stock 1080 Ti FE.
ya, I joked if a 10 series card out of the box was clocked at 1700 - 2000 I gues I would expect a lot more over a 980ti at 1000 -1240 but it was not by much and likr you lets see that 10 series down clocked to the 980 ti speed and then see
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#14
Vya Domus
xkm1948 said:

People got spoiled with Maxwell--->Pascal, completely ignoring the fact the previous gen was stuck in 28nm for a long time.
I thought that the jump from Maxwell to Pascal wasn't all just clocks, you mean to tell me that Paxwell and all that was true ? And hey I've seen people on this forum argue that Turing must be running as a gazillion Ghz because it's on 12nm.

xkm1948 said:

ignoring the fact the previous gen was stuck in 28nm for a long time.
Yet Maxwell was faster than Kepler, on the same 28nm. Let's not kid ourselves Nvidia could have still easily doubled performance (or at least get very close to it) if they would have dropped the Tensor and RT cores. People aren't spoiled, there have always been huge jumps in performance in the GPU space, that's actually the norm. It's Nvidia that has spoiled itself , funny even when they go all out with the biggest dies that they can make they still chose to make it so that it's not the best they can do.
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#15
Sandbo
xkm1948 said:
Meh, why buy old stuff?
Ask money.
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#16
dj-electric
BadFrog said:
What’s the advantage for nvidia to withhold drivers? Would the driver be better? Wouldn’t that help them?
That's a driver for media who reviews RTX 20 series cards. Only after the AIB partner rep passes the contacts, the media gets to sign an NDA and receive the driver.
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#17
xkm1948
dj-electric said:
That's a driver for media who reviews RTX 20 series cards. Only after the AIB partner rep passes the contacts, the media gets to sign an NDA and receive the driver.
So some media signed NDA and decide to f*ck it over huh? Interesting.
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#18
dj-electric
xkm1948 said:
So some media signed NDA and decide to f*ck it over huh? Interesting.
There's no way to 100% confirm these results are real. For all we know the 3DMark one could be shopped.
Also, the graphs in the benchmarks do not seem too unreasonable from existing assumptions and expectations. Nothing here seems surprising or out of the ordinary.

For those wondering, the driver disk in the box, if exists, contains geforce experience, which connects to the server to download the current software version. If you would use such a thing right now with an RTX card, you'll get a "driver not found" error.
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#19
coonbro
like with the 10 series the stock clocking to a good aftermarket card [ like in evga lines a classy card was only like 17 MHz overclocked the a lower sc ] when it use to be 90 MHz so I wonder with the 2000 series how much did NVidia nip in the bud for any real overclocking this go round

seems like they try to take more and more away each new series just looking at like evga's best card to there lower end ones in the same line for example . maybe this time you maybe stuck with what overclocking NVidia offers and not much if any more
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#20
CandymanGR
Vya Domus said:
People aren't spoiled, there have always been huge jumps in performance in the GPU space, that's actually the norm. It's Nvidia that has spoiled itself , funny even when they go all out with the biggest dies that they can make they still chose to make it so that it's not the best they can do.
Well, not always huge.
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#21
phill
I'll keep an eye out for the reviews, but isn't the Ti now the new Titan type card?? So for the extra money I'd have hoped for some more performance if that's the case.. But I will wait and see... Who knows, maybe Nvidia might surprise us... Might.....
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#22
Moofachuka
I'd upgrade my 1070 to 2070 if it matches up to 1080ti performance and around the same price as 1080ti... But that won't happen lol...
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#23
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
xkm1948 said:
Meh, why buy old stuff?
Because for a lot of people, it’s not old stuff. They upgrade to new stock of last gen when new gen starts. They get a lot more performance than they had for usually cheaper.

Most still have outstanding performance until they do it again. It also kind of proves people, especially those with high end GPU’s don’t need to buy into the false narrative that they NEED a new GPU.
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#24
B-Real
xkm1948 said:
I would not call 30%+ "tiny bit"

People got spoiled with Maxwell--->Pascal, completely ignoring the fact the previous gen was stuck in 28nm for a long time.
980 Ti was 40+% better than the 780Ti, so it's not only Maxwell-Pascal that suggests these results (take it with a grain of salt ofc) are disappointing, and if you consider the given prices, this is an absolute failure at the moment for the 99,9% of the gaming community.

xkm1948 said:

Meanwhile I will keep my pre-order. Any 20XX is better than my current GPU that is for sure.
Pascals were also better than your FuryX, so this is not a reason. You should just boycott these horribly priced GPUs.

xkm1948 said:
Meh, why buy old stuff?
In what terms is 1080 Ti older than 20xx? Yes, it doesn't support RT. And? You can be lucky if you get titles able to run games with RT 60@1080P. And we are not speaking of the 500-550$ 2070 (which 60@1080p would also be disappointing) but the 1050-1100$ high-end card... That's the "new' in this stuff. Hooray.

Fluffmeister said:
Indeed my friend, 30%+ faster than a card that is already 30% faster than the best the competition offers equals.... pretty fast to me.

Salt dose aside, It's fast, it's expensive, shock horror! You want the best, you pay for it.
Yeah, this is the perfect way to defend the $hit.
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#25
jaggerwild
Id say they made themselves more attractive, but the salt is used in my wounds from the price gouging Nvidia is giving.
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