Tuesday, November 6th 2018

GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Supply is Reportedly Dwindling, Prices on the Rise

Multiple sources confirmed to GamersNexus that the GTX 1080 Ti is starting to be really difficult to find. Supplies are decreasing and the reason seems to be clear: NVIDIA could have stopped the production of those graphics cards. This has had an immediate effect on these cards' prices, which in the last few days have increased everywhere in the world. The performance differences with the new GeForce RTX 2080 are not that important if you don't need the RT part of the equation -we could confirm this on our own review-, but the price of these new graphics card have made considering a 1080 Ti a viable option for many users that are looking to upgrade their systems.

Prices for the RTX 2080 start at $769 at Newegg for example, while the cheapest GTX 1080 Ti costs $850 there. The story is the same at Amazon, where we can find the cheapest RTX 2080 at $799,99 versus the $878.12 for a used model of the GTX 1080 Ti. The high-end model of the Pascal series competes directly with the RTX 2080 and was cheaper not long ago, but that's not the story now. With prices climbing, some are claiming the same will happen to the GTX 1080, GTX 1070 or GTX 1070 Ti in the next few weeks. Reports of RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti inexplicably dying on users could also be fueling consumer-fear, as well as a [temporary] erosion in the value proposition of the RTX 20-series itself, as Microsoft pulled Windows 10 1809 Update, leaving fewer people with DirectX Ray-tracing, the software foundation for RTX.
Source: GamersNexus
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84 Comments on GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Supply is Reportedly Dwindling, Prices on the Rise

#76
HTC
rtwjunkieReally? :rolleyes: Which 2018 model cars are still being produced? There is a reason they have end of model year clearances. It is to make room for 2019 models. If you find a 2018 on a lot in February of 2019, it is a leftover. Check the manufactured date of it, which is available for you.


Selling is NOT producing.
By that train of thought, by the time AMD started manufacturing Zen+, they had stopped producing Zen chips, right? Then everything Zen (original Ryzen chips all the way up to Epyc, since it uses the same chips) we see in shops were produced before this time, right?
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#77
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
HTCBy that train of thought, by the time AMD started manufacturing Zen+, they had stopped producing Zen chips, right? Then everything Zen (original Ryzen chips all the way up to Epyc, since it uses the same chips) we see in shops were produced before this time, right?
Your cheeky response, posed from a lack of knowledge viewpoint is understandable. I can’t answer about AMD. I told you what Nvidia does, and used another industry that operates the same way as an example.

Your question and response doesn’t change the fact that if you find a 2018 model year car on a lot after the 2019 releases, it is a leftover. Every car sold, at least here in the USA, has the car’s manufacture date readily available, so you can verify when that 2018 car was made.

As to Nvidia, let me give you this. April 15, 2016 980Ti, 980, and 970 production ends.
linustechtips.com/main/topic/582268-rumor-has-it-nvidia-discontinued-production-for-gtx970-980-and-980ti-gpus-to-be-replaced-with-pascal-chips-this-june/

The 1080 was then actually announced on May 6, 2016 with a release on May 27, 2016.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_10_series

And the Kepler to Maxwell transition, again indicating that Kepler discontinued when Maxwell announced, and whatever is available is what is already in retail pipeline.
www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-releases-549-gtx-980-beats-780-ti-in-benchm/1100-6422422/

What the OP of this news piece left out was the Reason that 1080Ti is in short supply. “Multiple sources” conveyed that production ended some time ago. Based on the last two cycles, that is not hard to believe at all.
www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/11/05/report-nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-no-longer-in-production-supply-running-low/amp/
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#78
HTC
rtwjunkieYour cheeky response, posed from a lack of knowledge viewpoint is understandable. I can’t answer about AMD. I told you what Nvidia does, and used another industry that operates the same way as an example.

Your question and response doesn’t change the fact that if you find a 2018 model year car on a lot after the 2019 releases, it is a leftover. Every car sold, at least here in the USA, has the car’s manufacture date readily available, so you can verify when that 2018 car was made.

As to Nvidia, let me give you this. April 15, 2016 980Ti, 980, and 970 production ends.
linustechtips.com/main/topic/582268-rumor-has-it-nvidia-discontinued-production-for-gtx970-980-and-980ti-gpus-to-be-replaced-with-pascal-chips-this-june/

The 1080 was then actually announced on May 6, 2016 with a release on May 27, 2016.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_10_series

And the Kepler to Maxwell transition, again indicating that Kepler discontinued when Maxwell announced, and whatever is available is what is already in retail pipeline.
www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-releases-549-gtx-980-beats-780-ti-in-benchm/1100-6422422/

What the OP of this news piece left out was the Reason that 1080Ti is in short supply. “Multiple sources” conveyed that production ended some time ago. Based on the last two cycles, that is not hard to believe at all.
www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/11/05/report-nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-no-longer-in-production-supply-running-low/amp/
So what you're saying is that nVidia has already stopped their 1060 series card production because they're producing 2060 series cards now to be ready for launch: am i reading this correctly?

Because, in the link about Kepler to Maxwell transition you provided, it says this:
The previous generation GTX 780 Ti, GTX 780, and GTX 770 are being discontinued. Retailers will be clearing out existing stock, though, so there may be bargains to be had.
Notice it doesn't say "have been discontinued": that is "the core" of our difference of opinion, the way i see it. I say they are currently phasing it out while you say they have already done so quite a while back. Ramping down production of the older product while ramping up production of the next product is what makes sense to me, but this doesn't mean the ramping down phase is a long lived one: could be over 3 months but could also be over 15 days until it ends up discontinued.

IMO, it would be stupid to cut off production of the older model until they know the new product is selling competitively, by which time it indeed makes sense to discontinue the older model but what you're saying is that they already have when they started production of the newer model. Why stupid? Because should some issue with the new model arise that end up making it's adoption much more difficult than anticipated, they would have nothing to fall back on.
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#79
lexluthermiester
rtwjunkieReally? :rolleyes: Which 2018 model cars are still being produced? There is a reason they have end of model year clearances. It is to make room for 2019 models. If you find a 2018 on a lot in February of 2019, it is a leftover. Check the manufactured date of it, which is available for you.
How about you go visit a car lot and ask to see a few different years or models. Take a close look and you see that the difference are minute, if any unless a cycle changeover has happened. It's no different with video cards.
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#80
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
lexluthermiesterHow about you go visit a car lot and ask to see a few different years or models. Take a close look and you see that the difference are minute, if any unless a cycle changeover has happened. It's no different with video cards.
What’s amazing is how stubborn you are. You live, I think, just to argue and ignore evidence, no matter who you argue with. You troll this behavior over and over and over, all over TPU.
HTCSo what you're saying is that nVidia has already stopped their 1060 series card production because they're producing 2060 series cards now to be ready for launch: am i reading this correctly?
I notice reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Nothing has been said about 1060’s yet, and unlike you, I am not operating on speculation.

What we do know is that A “RX 590 fighter” is going to be offered with GDDR5X. Either they have an excess of 1060’s or GDDR5X on hand. It’s unclear. This is the news they have given us on the 1060, and it leads me to conclude nothing, since it doesn’t even talk about producing, just selling.
HTCIMO, it would be stupid to cut off production of the older model until they know the new product is selling competitively,
It really doesn’t matter what your OPINION is, it isn’t the way Nvidia produces through their contracted fab, TSMC. Go ahead and offer them your OPINION on what you think is smarter. Maybe they will adopt your suggestion.
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#81
lexluthermiester
rtwjunkieWhat’s amazing is how stubborn you are.
I'm not willing to budge on a point until actual evidence is provided to refute such. Until then I stand my ground.
rtwjunkieYou live, I think, just to argue and ignore evidence, no matter who you argue with. You troll this behavior over and over and over, all over TPU.
See PM

I only argue points to which I have knowledge and experience. In the case of this article, history speaks for itself. When the GTX280 was released, NVidia continued to make the 9800 for a solid half year before fully committing to the 200 series. The same thing with 700 series to the 900 series and 900 to 1000. There's no reason to believe that this generational switch will be any different. So until NVidia themselves announce that they have ceased production already, there's no real reason to conclude they will change their business plan.

Thus the shortage is likely because of the less than stellar reception of the RTX series and people buying up the next best thing in large amounts. Seems a far more reasonable and logical explanation.
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#82
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
lexluthermiesterThe same thing with 700 series to the 900 series and 900 to 1000.
Apparently you ignored the evidence you’ve been provided. Instead, you write that they did things differentlly on those two model years. I guess because you wrote it it becomes fact?

Yet you continue this delusional charade because you do not know how to admit you are wrong. I observe way more than I participate, and I see you arguing endlessly with numerous other members, just to argue. You think I am not the only one that sees it?

Go ahead and write your own script for the shortage.
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#83
lexluthermiester
rtwjunkieApparently you ignored the evidence you’ve been provided.
Evidence? I'd love to see some. Let's see some past or current announcements from NVidia that show that they have ceased production of one product before or at the release of the the next.
rtwjunkieGo ahead and write your own script for the shortage.
It's only a theory, that happens to fit current circumstances.
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#84
bajs11
first miners screwed up the gpu market
now nvidia is doing it too
its still laughable that so many people actually bought the rtx 2080ti, a card with 60% higher msrp than the card it was suppose to replace
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