cucker tarlsonme too.
I'd either go 9900k or 8086k if I were upgrading now.Could go for 9900 non-K too if I found one at killer price.


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Via ? are you talking now or two decades ago ?
also,nice way to greet "any" intel owners with you're "stupid enough" to buy it.though you're right,partially.seen people going with i5 7400 when 1600x was already out.but that's mostly ready made pc systems being pushed as first communion presents :roll:



Many would disagree,I'd agree but only up to a point.

kapone32The CPU shortage as i understand is more in the mobile and laptop markets than the desktop.

Manu_PTImo i7 9700k is the best Intel offer and the only one I would consider. 8 physical cores that require acceptable voltage for 4,9ghz all cores (1,2v to 1,26v). Great at productivity and high refresh gaming without needing a 100€ cooler and having crazy high power draw + temps.

Manu_PTImo i7 9700k is the best Intel offer and the only one I would consider. 8 physical cores that require acceptable voltage for 4,9ghz all cores (1,2v to 1,26v). Great at productivity and high refresh gaming without needing a 100€ cooler and having crazy high power draw + temps.

Vayra86Take note of this vcore, and that is with -2AVX and a rigid LLC setting. A 'tiny' gap it seems between this and your wild claim, no?

lexluthermiesterLet's look at Intel's ark page for that CPU...
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/186604/intel-core-i7-9700k-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html
Weird, no VID specs listed. The reason for this is simple; Each die tested/binned/sold can have a varying voltage requirement. I don't know where that graphic is from, but it doesn't prove your point.

cucker tarlsonthat's from slilicon lottery,if they can't hit 1.2-1.26v on their bins then don't expect many 9700k's in the wild.

cucker tarlsonsiliconlottery.com

john_I hope this time people will say "Thank you AMD" and buy AMD, not say "Thank you AMD" and buy Intel. If they keep doing the latter, this period of high competition and great offerings of CPU models in the market, will not last more than 2 years.

HenrySomeoneWell, most people like the better performing chip and Coffee Lake will continue to compete well against Zen2 at thread parity and even below, especially in gaming (e.g I expect 9700k to still compete with 3800x/3900x when both are OCed to the max)

lexluthermiesterOh you mean this one?;
siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake-r/products/9700k49g
How about this one?;
siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake-r/products/9700k50g
Or perhaps this one?;
siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake-r/products/9700k51g
And this one?;
siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake-r/products/9700k52g

Are we noticing a trend with each progressive page? While we see an increase of price, we also see an increase of voltage, meaning that to get to the promised performance levels, one is required to overvolt and OC. While not a problem for most, @Manu_PT 's point was that at stock(or near stock) voltages the CPU in question performs well and without using too much power. @Vayra86 's response was a bit harsh and not all that accurate. And the example offered certainly didn't make his point for him. In fact it kinda worked against that point..

HenrySomeoneWell, most people like the better performing chip and Coffee Lake will continue to dominate (Turd)Zen2 at thread parity and even below, especially in gaming (e.g I expect 9700k to still smash 3800x/3900x when both are OCed to the max)

lexluthermiesterFixed your statement so it is less childish and fanboy-like. Take note for future.

john_I hope this time people will say "Thank you AMD" and buy AMD, not say "Thank you AMD" and buy Intel. If they keep doing the latter, this period of high competition and great offerings of CPU models in the market, will not last more than 2 years.

cucker tarlsonno,he said 4.9,so not at stock.

Manu_PT8 physical cores that require acceptable voltage for 4,9ghz all cores (1,2v to 1,26v).

lexluthermiesterManu_PT didn't say stock, I did. He said:

Which is not only possible but indeed likely.

efikkanPeople should buy which ever product fits their needs the best at that time, for some that would be Intel, for others that would be AMD.

AMD have a huge fan base, and I expect them to sell well among custom builders. AMD's continued success is mostly dependent on themselves.