Thursday, August 1st 2019

Intel Launches First 10th Gen Core Processors: Redefining the Next Era of Laptop Experiences

Today, Intel officially launched 11 new, highly integrated 10th Gen Intel Core processors designed for remarkably sleek 2 in 1s and laptops. The processors bring high-performance artificial intelligence (AI) to the PC at scale, feature new Intel Iris Plus graphics for stunning entertainment and enable the best connectivity with Intel Wi-Fi 6 (Gig+) and Thunderbolt 3. Systems are expected from PC manufacturers for the holiday season.

"These 10th Gen Intel Core processors shift the paradigm for what it means to deliver leadership in mobile PC platforms. With broad-scale AI for the first time on PCs, an all-new graphics architecture, best-in-class Wi-Fi 6 (Gig+) and Thunderbolt 3 - all integrated onto the SoC, thanks to Intel's 10nm process technology and architecture design - we're opening the door to an entirely new range of experiences and innovations for the laptop."
-Chris Walker, Intel corporate vice president and general manager of Mobility Client Platforms in the Client Computing Group
10th Gen Intel Core processors are foundational to Intel's journey in enabling uncompromising and workload-optimized PC platforms with performance leadership across all vectors of computing. In addition to performance and responsiveness gains, AI, graphics, connectivity and I/O are optimized on the SoC for a solution that delivers a feature-rich suite of capabilities for OEMs to create laptops for people to watch, game and create more.

10th Gen Intel Core processors are the first purpose-built processors for AI on thin-and-light laptops and 2 in 1s. They deliver the intelligent performance needed for modern AI-infused applications, with a suite of features and capabilities:
  • Intel Deep Learning Boost, a new, dedicated instruction set that accelerates neural networks on the CPU for maximum responsiveness in scenarios such as automatic image enhancements, photo indexing and photorealistic effects.
  • Up to 1 teraflop of GPU engine compute for sustained, high-throughput inference applications like video stylization, analytics and real-time video resolution upscaling.
  • Intel Gaussian & Neural Accelerator (GNA) delivers a dedicated engine for background workloads such as voice processing and noise suppression at ultra-low power, for maximum battery life.
With double the graphics performance, 10th Gen Intel Core processors with Intel Iris Plus graphics make a reality gaming in 1080p and higher-level content creation, like 4K video editing, quick application of video filters and high-resolution photo processing on the go. Plus:
  • These are the first GPUs from Intel to support VESA's Adaptive Sync display standard, which enables a smoother gaming experience across games like Dirt Rally 2.0 and Fortnite.
  • Based on Intel's Gen11 graphics architecture, they are also the industry's first integrated GPU to incorporate variable rate shading for improved rendering performance.
  • With support for the BT.2020 specification, watch 4K HDR video in a billion colors.
Best connectivity: Increased board integration helps PC manufacturers innovate on form factor for sleeker designs with Intel Wi-Fi 6 (Gig+) connectivity and up to four Thunderbolt 3 ports - the fastest and most versatile USB-C connector available.

Product Line-up:
Intel is also introducing a new processor number naming structure starting with this first set of 10th Gen Intel Core processors. Read more about Intel processor numbers.
The processors, code-named "Ice Lake," are the first to debut in the 10th Gen Intel Core processor family and will be available in new designs from PC manufacturers for the holiday season. This year at Computex, Intel previewed some of the first systems expected to arrive and on track for verification through the innovation program code-named "Project Athena," including Acer Swift 5, Dell XPS 13 2-in-1, HP Envy 13" and Lenovo S940.

Today's announcement is just the beginning. Addressing the increasing diversity of modern computing needs, Intel will announce additional products in the 10th Gen Intel Core mobile processor family. The upcoming processors will deliver increased productivity and performance scaling for demanding, multithreaded workloads, including the flagship built-for-business Intel vPro platform. Expect to hear more details this month.
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53 Comments on Intel Launches First 10th Gen Core Processors: Redefining the Next Era of Laptop Experiences

#1
jabbadap
There's already couple of previews out: Anandtech, notebookcheck.

Wonder when the first nuc with one these comes out, might be interesting... or not.
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#2
Imsochobo
jabbadap, post: 4090693, member: 148195"
There's already couple of previews out: Anandtech, notebookcheck.

Wonder when the first nuc with one these comes out, might be interesting... or not.
Not, but in a 15W envelope it's realyl really something exciting, good on Intel.
Good Job, for desktop I don't see anything changing quickly unless they can translate a lot of the sauce to desktop at 95W.
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#3
Vayra86
Imsochobo, post: 4090698, member: 66457"
Not, but in a 15W envelope it's realyl really something exciting, good on Intel.
Good Job, for desktop I don't see anything changing quickly unless they can translate a lot of the sauce to desktop at 95W.
I agree, its a noticeable step forward in multiple ways/tests. But, synthetics are not real life and also not a laptop-situation with throttling, dust/heat build up etc. Still, power behavior seems to be fine tuned as well.

Its not worse than 8th/9th gen, that's a good start :) Now, let's see how it scales beyond 4c8t and 4 Ghz because that's what we're at and its what we've known for ages now. I'm predicting this will be all we'll see on 10nm, maybe some refreshed versions later.
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#4
theoneandonlymrk
Vayra86, post: 4090703, member: 152404"
I agree, its a noticeable step forward in multiple ways/tests. But, synthetics are not real life and also not a laptop-situation with throttling, dust/heat build up etc. Still, power behavior seems to be fine tuned as well.

Its not worse than 8th/9th gen, that's a good start :) Now, let's see how it scales beyond 4c8t and 4 Ghz because that's what we're at and its what we've known for ages now. I'm predicting this will be all we'll see on 10nm, maybe some refreshed versions later.
It's going to be 2021-22 before 10nm hits the desktop in any quantity, hopefully the clocks will scale up by then, It's a start though.
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#5
v12dock
It's much easier to get better yields with smaller dies. I wonder if Gen 10 desktops will utilize MCM tech.
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#7
EarthDog
cucker tarlson, post: 4090760, member: 173472"
does tpu test notebook cpus ?
I don't believe so...
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#8
TheGuruStud
This is more pathetic than my bank account.
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#9
cucker tarlson
TheGuruStud, post: 4090777, member: 42692"
This is more pathetic than my bank account.
why?
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#10
TheGuruStud
cucker tarlson, post: 4090778, member: 173472"
why?
"High performance". And they will never actually show a real benchmark, b/c it's a dud.

If the "hype" is this bad, then that's all you need to know about the product.
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#11
cucker tarlson
TheGuruStud, post: 4090779, member: 42692"
"High performance". And they will never actually show a real benchmark, b/c it's a dud.

If the "hype" is this bad, then that's all you need to know about the product.
the perf/wat is probably good,better than anything out now.
I just don't understand "brings high performance to AI". What? A 12W CPU ? :laugh:
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#12
TheGuruStud
cucker tarlson, post: 4090780, member: 173472"
the perf/wat is probably good,better than anything out now.
I just don't understand "brings high performance to AI". What? A 12W CPU ? :laugh:
Unlikely, b/c 10nm is worse. These would have to be heavily binned on a process that already loses them money on every die.

I still haven't seen them actually declare what base clocks are. If someone has it, I'd like to see. Otherwise, it's just more proof of a sink hole.
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#13
cucker tarlson
TheGuruStud, post: 4090783, member: 42692"
Unlikely, b/c 10nm is worse. These would have to be heavily binned on a process that already loses them money on every die.
who cares if they lose money really.
worse than what?
and how do you know all that ? you said there's no performance results yourself.


we'll see,my ultrabook is 5 years old already but I can wait for tiger lake,early results are promising with TL matching fastest single core laptop cpu at 5w

https://translate.google.pl/translate?hl=pl&sl=pl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.purepc.pl%2Fprocesory%2Fintel_tiger_lakey_z_moca_jednego_watku_na_poziomie_i98950hk
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#14
krykry
jabbadap, post: 4090693, member: 148195"
There's already couple of previews out: Anandtech, notebookcheck.

Wonder when the first nuc with one these comes out, might be interesting... or not.
Comparing DDR4 3733 to 2133 and 2400. This smells a bit.
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#15
borandi
krykry, post: 4090786, member: 180882"
Comparing DDR4 3733 to 2133 and 2400. This smells a bit.
That's the maximum supported frequency for each respective mobile processor.
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#16
notb
krykry, post: 4090786, member: 180882"
Comparing DDR4 3733 to 2133 and 2400. This smells a bit.
Why?
First of all: it's LPDDR4X vs DDR4 - "speed" will translate into performance differently.
Second: lets say a CPU_1 is almost identical to a CPU_2, but it was magically made to utilize faster RAM and gets a performance advantage. Isn't CPU_1 better?
Vayra86, post: 4090703, member: 152404"
I agree, its a noticeable step forward in multiple ways/tests. But, synthetics are not real life and also not a laptop-situation with throttling, dust/heat build up etc. Still, power behavior seems to be fine tuned as well.
It was expected that Sunny Cove will be a huge upgrade and these results are in line with rumors.
More importantly, IGP finally matches AMD's offering, so - assuming everything scales well - Intel's first big GPU could be very similar to Navi. Not bad.

As for throttling: consumers expect slim, quiet notebooks that last for 15h in basic tasks. These mobile CPUs are designed primarily to do that. Once you have the base, you start to think how to squeeze as much 10-second boost as possible. And both rumors and leaks suggest Intel managed to squeeze a lot (as usual).

Of course -H variants will follow - with higher TDP - forcing more robust cooling.
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#17
Vayra86
notb, post: 4090843, member: 165619"
Why?
First of all: it's LPDDR4X vs DDR4 - "speed" will translate into performance differently.
Second: lets say a CPU_1 is almost identical to a CPU_2, but it was magically made to utilize faster RAM and gets a performance advantage. Isn't CPU_1 better?

It was expected that Sunny Cove will be a huge upgrade and these results are in line with rumors.
More importantly, IGP finally matches AMD's offering, so - assuming everything scales well - Intel's first big GPU could be very similar to Navi. Not bad.

As for throttling: consumers expect slim, quiet notebooks that last for 15h in basic tasks. These mobile CPUs are designed primarily to do that. Once you have the base, you start to think how to squeeze as much 10-second boost as possible. And both rumors and leaks suggest Intel managed to squeeze a lot (as usual).

Of course -H variants will follow - with higher TDP - forcing more robust cooling.
Well, huge is a gross overstatement. Its a step forward, but if it doesn't really scale up that well (4c8t in 2020... come on) and if clocks are stuck at 4.1 Ghz or so we might as well rock our 7/8/9th gen chips a while longer. Because they'll be faster. A whole lot - and yes that goes for current day laptops too.

Realistically this is a positive sight because we finally see Intel do a bit more than 2-3% (best case) per gen, but this is 10nm in its most favorable light really at this point. And it says nothing about how it will work on 7nm, especially since Intel's been going at it for só long.

Consider that Intel has not been capable of producing a single fart that even reeks of anything more than 4c8t and this meagre boost clock. The only upside is the higher base, but then for a laptop CPU, how much does thát tell us.
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#18
bug
Ah, the same table with the frequency of the IGP listed as MHz. And again no mention of the error in the article. Tsk, tsk...
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#19
lynx29
no 45w one for a gaming laptop... bleh. useless. get out of here. i might buy ryzen now just cause im sick of this nonsense 11 sku's and you can't add one 45w one so laptops can get a refresh for gaming?
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#20
danbert2000
This should maybe incentivize AMD to start releasing mobile chips near the same time as their desktop counterparts, instead of a year later. Zen 2 architecture and 7 nm node plus a Navi GPU would bring the fight to Intel even with these new chips, but AMD prioritized desktop first so they'll have a harder time breaking into the laptop market when they're always a year behind. I think that it's probably going to get better as AMD picks up much needed revenue from their new launches.

Overall, Intel seems like a pretty safe bet for any gaming laptop because they have much better integration with the chipset, discrete GPUs, and networking hardware. Not to mention the IPC advantage, which really comes up when you have to run these chips lower clocked but still try to get close enough to desktop performance to not lead to a completely CPU-bound situation in games. Intel CPUs, when the laptop manufacturer doesn't screw up the drivers or BIOS, use incredibly low amounts of power. Even on my i5-7300HQ laptop, which uses a 45-watt processor, I can get 4-6 hours of battery life comfortably, and that's not just sitting on the desktop. AMD's teething problems with Ryzen 3000 BIOS updates and idle voltage tinkering just would not fly on a consumer laptop. Perhaps this is the real reason it takes a year to package all the new tech for laptops. They just have more tweaking to get the race-to-idle working better when you're running from a battery.
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#22
R0H1T
notb, post: 4090843, member: 165619"
Why?
First of all: it's LPDDR4X vs DDR4 - "speed" will translate into performance differently.
Second: lets say a CPU_1 is almost identical to a CPU_2, but it was magically made to utilize faster RAM and gets a performance advantage. Isn't CPU_1 better?

It was expected that Sunny Cove will be a huge upgrade and these results are in line with rumors.
More importantly, IGP finally matches AMD's offering, so - assuming everything scales well - Intel's first big GPU could be very similar to Navi. Not bad.

As for throttling: consumers expect slim, quiet notebooks that last for 15h in basic tasks. These mobile CPUs are designed primarily to do that. Once you have the base, you start to think how to squeeze as much 10-second boost as possible. And both rumors and leaks suggest Intel managed to squeeze a lot (as usual).

Of course -H variants will follow - with higher TDP - forcing more robust cooling.
Needs citation, is there any plans from Intel about releasing H parts? Did they reveal it anywhere before this? if they can do regular H mobile chips then they can do desktop as well, albeit not super high clocked ones.
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#23
Prima.Vera
Instead of this PR crap, can we have please a proper presentation article, something like the other quality sites are doing? Reading that PR shit just makes the whole article not worth reading anymore.
Sorry, but this is becoming a pattern here at TPU...

Back to topic, looks like intel is doing his shit again providing a Core i7 with the same amount of Cores and Threads as an i5. This pos trend for laptops needs to stop!
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#24
lynx29
Prima.Vera, post: 4091017, member: 98685"
Instead of this PR crap, can we have please a proper presentation article, something like the other quality sites are doing? Reading that PR shit just makes the whole article not worth reading anymore.
Sorry, but this is becoming a pattern here at TPU...

Back to topic, looks like intel is doing his shit again providing a Core i7 with the same amount of Cores and Threads as an i5. This pos trend for laptops needs to stop!
you probably should inform @W1zzard not the generalized user base.
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#25
notb
Vayra86, post: 4090863, member: 152404"
Well, huge is a gross overstatement. Its a step forward, but if it doesn't really scale up that well (4c8t in 2020... come on)
It makes absolutely no sense to give it more cores at this time. They're limited by the power draw. They would have to drastically limit single-core performance and this CPU wouldn't make any sense (it would be an expensive i7 but perform like an Atom).
and if clocks are stuck at 4.1 Ghz or so we might as well rock our 7/8/9th gen chips a while longer. Because they'll be faster. A whole lot - and yes that goes for current day laptops too.
The early results show 10th gen being faster than 8th gen Whiskey Lake (let alone earlier). I don't understand what you mean.
Consider that Intel has not been capable of producing a single fart that even reeks of anything more than 4c8t and this meagre boost clock. The only upside is the higher base, but then for a laptop CPU, how much does thát tell us.
At this moment neither side makes a high-end 15/25W CPU with more than 4C, so I really don't get your problem. That's the state of technology today.

Aqeel Shahzad, post: 4090987, member: 162480"
I highly doubt that 4k editing on IRIS graphics.
It's possible even on 8th gen mobile SoCs. I mean: it is happening. Really.
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