Thursday, August 29th 2019
AMD Readies Three HEDT Chipsets: TRX40, TRX80, and WRX80
AMD is preparing to surprise Intel with its 3rd generation Ryzen Threadripper processors derived from the "Rome" MCM (codenamed "Castle Peak" for the client-platform), that features up to 64 CPU cores, a monolithic 8-channel DDR4 memory interface, and 128 PCIe gen 4.0 lanes. For the HEDT platform, AMD could reconfigure the I/O controller die for two distinct sub-platforms within HEDT - one targeting gamers/enthusiasts, and another targeting the demographic that buys Xeon W processors, including the W-3175X. The gamer/enthusiast-targeted processor line could feature a monolithic 4-channel DDR4 memory interface, and 64 PCI-Express gen 4.0 lanes from the processor socket, and additional lanes from the chipset; while the workstation-targeted processor line could essentially be EPYCs, with a wider memory bus width and more platform PCIe lanes; while retaining drop-in backwards-compatibility with AMD X399 (at the cost of physically narrower memory and PCIe I/O).
To support this diverse line of processors, AMD is coming up with not one, but three new chipsets: TRX40, TRX80, and WRX80. The TRX40 could have a lighter I/O feature-set (similar to the X570), and probably 4-channel memory on the motherboards. The TRX80 and WRX80 could leverage the full I/O of the "Rome" MCM, with 8-channel memory and more than 64 PCIe lanes. We're not sure what differentiates the TRX80 and WRX80, but we believe motherboards based on the latter will resemble proper workstation boards in form-factors such as SSI, and be made by enterprise motherboard manufacturers such as TYAN. The chipsets made their way to the USB-IF for certification, and were sniffed out by momomo_us. ASUS is ready with its first motherboards based on the TRX40, the Prime TRX40-Pro, and the ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming.
Source:
momomo_us (Twitter)
To support this diverse line of processors, AMD is coming up with not one, but three new chipsets: TRX40, TRX80, and WRX80. The TRX40 could have a lighter I/O feature-set (similar to the X570), and probably 4-channel memory on the motherboards. The TRX80 and WRX80 could leverage the full I/O of the "Rome" MCM, with 8-channel memory and more than 64 PCIe lanes. We're not sure what differentiates the TRX80 and WRX80, but we believe motherboards based on the latter will resemble proper workstation boards in form-factors such as SSI, and be made by enterprise motherboard manufacturers such as TYAN. The chipsets made their way to the USB-IF for certification, and were sniffed out by momomo_us. ASUS is ready with its first motherboards based on the TRX40, the Prime TRX40-Pro, and the ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming.
55 Comments on AMD Readies Three HEDT Chipsets: TRX40, TRX80, and WRX80
Regardless of marketing the TR platform itself isn't a mainstream platform to begin with... Agree on getting it for epeen points is pointless.
I can see companies like Qnap & maybe even Synology (if ending their love affair with Intel) creating turnkey self contained easy to use Servers/NAS units with all that their Linux OS distros are capable of doing now from running Docker services like an oracle database, multiple VMs, cloud services, image & video recognition & cataloging...etc... It's easy to blow right by 16 cores with just a few people or applications. It's fun to finally see this level of hardware potentially being offered directly to consumers at reasonable prices (in Enterprise terms).
A ryzen 9 3950X and a X570 board is really all i need, but that TR40 spec does look very interesting throw. TR80 is litterly overkill for my needs. I mean i come from an i7 980X, so 3950X shut have all the power i need. But as you maybe know, more wants more:D.
If we keep thinking frugally (which is also odd on this platform), why not just run X399? What is there really in TRxx for the masses? Not much.
But yeah, I would pay the $200 difference (in the USA) between CPUs for 15% more performance. THe extra cores and threads are irrelevant.
oh boy , Tr 32 cores with 128Mb L3 Cache ! Now which do chipset support Tr32 ?
Hopefully they will support the TR4 socket with the same compatibly as epyc.
Mabye WRX80 is mult socekt Threadripper? For when you absolutely, positively need 128 cores so you can crush Intel in cinebench, even with water chillers?
The IO die from Rome already has all the hardware for a two socket system, why not leverage that for the consumer market? Threadripper has always had a bit of “looka at what cool stuf we can do with server hardware”. Why not take it to the extreme?
I know that this thread is about 3rd Gen TR4 boards but I don't see why AMD won't support current gen CPUs on their next chipset for TR4. It will likely be the TR40 and the other boards will probably only support the new CPUs.
Agreed X399 boards should fall further in price to help those who want to get into TR4 but couldn't afford it before. I never said that TR4 was for the masses, most people don't buy a 12 core CPU for light computing (web surfing, gaming) but I was talking specifically about the individual that would buy a 12+ core CPU like the 3900X or upcoming 3950X.
This is the beauty of computing in today's age. You can use your money to get whatever you want and since you don't see a need for the extra features I actually commend you for stating that.Or want maple syrup or hockey skates
Special models with lower number of cores and higher frequency.
It would be ideal to AMD launch 10 core Threadripper as model with lowest number of core but highest frequency.
I mean on boost frequency for all cores. Becuase I don't understand nothing how Boost new Ryzen 3xxxx.
The Price/Perf ratio is just amazing.
Also, PCI-E gen4 bandwich is not a big deal unless you're using it for this:
lol
It gives people choice and I have no issue with that.Both are interesting, both the Ryzen39XX and the Threadripper HEDT platforms.
Can't wait to see some benchmarks and that monster 8-Channel behemoth.
Hopefully AMD doesn't mess it up lol