Monday, September 2nd 2019
Der8auer: Only Small Percentage of 3rd Gen Ryzen CPUs Hit Their Advertised Speeds
World famous overclocker Der8auer published his survey of boost clocks found on 3rd generation Ryzen CPUs. Collecting data from almost 3,000 entries from people around the world, he has found out that a majority of the 3000 series Ryzen CPUs are not hitting their advertised boost speeds. Perhaps one of the worst results from the entire survey are for the 12-core Ryzen 9 3900X, for which only 5.6% of entries reported have managed to reach the boost speeds AMD advertises. However, the situation is better for lower-end SKUs, with about half of the Ryzen 5 3600 results showing that their CPU is boosting correctly and within advertised numbers.
Der8auer carefully selected the results that went into the survey, where he discarded any numbers that used either specialized cooling like water chillers, Precision Boost Overdrive - PBO or the results which were submitted by "fanboys" who wanted to game the result. Testing was purely scientific using Cinebench R15 and clock speeds were recorded using HWinfo (which got recommendation from AMD), so he could get as precise data as possible.
Der8auer comments that he still recommends Ryzen 3000 series CPUs, as they present a good value and have good performance to back. He just finds it very odd that AMD didn't specify what you need to reach the advertised boost speeds.
If you would like to see the more in depth testing, here is the English version of the video:
Der8auer carefully selected the results that went into the survey, where he discarded any numbers that used either specialized cooling like water chillers, Precision Boost Overdrive - PBO or the results which were submitted by "fanboys" who wanted to game the result. Testing was purely scientific using Cinebench R15 and clock speeds were recorded using HWinfo (which got recommendation from AMD), so he could get as precise data as possible.
If you would like to see the more in depth testing, here is the English version of the video:
253 Comments on Der8auer: Only Small Percentage of 3rd Gen Ryzen CPUs Hit Their Advertised Speeds
It's like when you buy food. When it says it's safe to eat it within 3 months, it can happen you can eat it after 4. But in no way will it go bad in less than 3 months if stored properly.
that's a $38 cooler.
But you've also missed the point...even with the right mobo and bios, as well as a proper cooler, MOST STILL DONT TICK MAX BOOST. These arguments are ridiculous and sourced from misinformation.
FIT is preventing the CPU from boosting to max advertised. Im sorry but is the majority of testers stupid?
And second, a stock cooler MIGHT hit boost for a small short of time, but it will dump when theres a serious MT workload applied.
So here we are with new AMD CPUUs that need an AGESA update before they are working as they should? :eek: NO WAY!
:kookoo:He does reviews and has access to information the general user does not. One of the few guys doing reviews that truly isn't biased, IMHO, so if he's taking the time to type something to here, there's something that should be looked at, IMHO.
So, as I've said earlier... I've used at least 6 boards (more now I think, lol) with multiple bios and agesa's. Nada. They've been out for almost 3 months.. maybe this will all end with another update...sure. But it hasnt yet. ;)
People are trying to justify it and come from a misinformed place thinking that if AMD's parameters are met it works. It does not. Not for many... and dare we say a majority.
Maybe 1.0.0.4 is my magic sauce... we'll find out shortly.
I think AMD needs 4-6 months before they can suss out all the little niggles I see. I mean... do we even have odd CAS numbers working yet? ;)
So like, this is a real problem, there can be no doubt. I don't see it as that big of a problem (as is usual for me and this stuff), but it is something that consumers should be made aware of in a better way. I'm not sure that this is the correct approach, as we have to filter out the mail carrier's bias as always.Lisa Su said that'd get better, and that's the one area that I think AMD could really improve upon. but there's too many large egos in the media that get in the way of that ever being an easy task. AMD jsut doesn't use what most consider as traditional avenues to reach their end users because of this, for example. How do you fix that? You just can't.
I've done benchmarks many times playing with these things and sometimes it would never pick up the 3.9 Ghz max clock my 1700X is supposed to have. I knew it actually runs at those speeds because the results are higher versus when turbo clocks are turned off but sometimes I would never witness the clocks going up.
Just use your computer the way you intended, instead of going by the masses of derbauer and his follower. FUD creating in exchange for visits and clicks. There are people that deserve way more credit for their work then Derbauer.
The word you're looking for is polls ;)
That's AMD's fault for not emphasizing that aspect of these chips enough to the media.