Monday, December 23rd 2019

AMD Renoir APU Models Spotted in ASUS Notebooks

Following the previous report about AMD's upcoming "Renoir" APU lineup of processors for notebook and desktop, we have new information about the new processor models and their configurations. Supposed to launch in early 2020, the Renoir lineup is supposed to feature up to 8 cores and 16 threads in high-end models. Dubbed Ryzen 4000 series, the new APU lineup will be available in four configurations determined by its TDP: 15 W and 45 W chips for notebooks, and 35 W and 65 W variants meant for desktop.

According to WCCFTech, AMD will launch high-performance Ryzen 9 4900H and Ryzen 7 4800H APUs soon in the first notebooks. Supposed to be part of the "H" series of mobile APUs, these models will feature high core count, that can reach up to 8 cores, SMT support as well, all within TPD of 45 Watts. A power-optimized Ryzen 7 4800HS has also appeared in the listings as a lower clocked alternative to Ryzen 7 4800H, which is supposed to feature lower TDP as well. All of the former processors appear listed as the base of ASUSes upcoming GA401 and GA502 laptops, featuring 16 GB of RAM, Windows 10, and a 14-inch display. While configurations of the laptop will affect its price, Ryzen 7 4800HS powered model is currently listed at 1904 EUR, featuring 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB of storage, so we now have a ballpark price estimate to speculate upon.
In addition to 8C/16T Ryzen 9 and Ryzen 7 models, lower-end parts will also be present. ASUS laptops featuring 8C/8T and 6C/12T processors have been listed as well, showing that we are in for a real treat at CES, when AMD is supposed to launch these processors to satisfy every user, whatever someone needs six or eight cores.
Source: VideoCardz
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18 Comments on AMD Renoir APU Models Spotted in ASUS Notebooks

#1
dj-electric
We know how elegantly powerful the Ryzen 7 3700X is. If it could be translated into a mobile chip, that would be an absolute productivity and gaming killer, especially with AMD's pricing.
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#2
yotano211
Give me a 8 core cpu and a 2080, then I will think about switching to AMD.
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#3
HwGeek
This time it's really gonna hurt Intel in the ** :).
also looks like PCIe Gen4 can help with low vRam of the PCIe Gen4 GPU like was found on 5500xt 4GB, this is good. (i.e 4/6 core 4000 APU + 5500m 4gb.)

just hoe that fast ddr4 memory will be used.
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#4
Valantar
This looks very exciting - particularly that these seem likely to actually show up in shipping laptops in short order, unlike previous generations of APUs. Looking very much forward to some premium thin-and-light options with LPDDR4x.
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#5
ShurikN
Valantar
This looks very exciting - particularly that these seem likely to actually show up in shipping laptops in short order, unlike previous generations of APUs. Looking very much forward to some premium thin-and-light options with LPDDR4x.
These 'H" parts are all 45W. Thin and light is probably pushing it a bit too far.
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#6
Darmok N Jalad
If ever AMD was gong to get some design wins, it should be now. OEMs are talking supply constraints, and AMD has a viable alternative right now. 8 and 6 core models shows they are getting more serious about the mobile high-end.
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#7
prtskg
8 core apu from AMD, nice. This will make AM4 more interesting.
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#8
kapone32
Finally, hopefully retailers actually will stock these. If the CPU market is anything to go by AMD might get major market share especially if these are tied to 720P or 1080P screens.
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#9
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
Finally, competition for the 8750H and 9750H. They just need to make sure these have SMT and they will take over the gaming laptop space.

3750H (Zen+) was great against the 9300H, but the Intel was still 10% to 15% better in most tasks. A potential 4750H+1660 Ti would be great for budget gaming laptops.
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#10
lewis007
I've lost count on the amount of times I've heard of these mythical AMD mobile parts arriving soon with amazing performance, blah, blah, blah. Either OEM's don't want to use them, or their afraid of the backlash from Intel if they do, or the performance is underwhelming. AMD has to really start performing in the mobile sector and bring real parts or face being locked out of a gravy train.
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Valantar
ShurikN
These 'H" parts are all 45W. Thin and light is probably pushing it a bit too far.
Plenty of leaks concerning the U-series models too, with a purported 8-core (8-thread, so no SMT) at 15W being tested in PCMark. But what I would really want is a small and light 13-14" with a 45W chip so that the iGPU gets some headroom. Should be entirely doable as long as they sacrifice just a little thinness. Just look at the XPS 15, packing a 45W CPU and a 50W GPU in a very thin package. Bigger, sure, but also >2x the TDP.
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#12
holyprof
yotano211
Give me a 8 core cpu and a 2080, then I will think about switching to AMD.
The article is about APUs, they aren't supposed to have a dedicated GPU. So you shold look for a laptop equipped with Ryzen CPU (the one without graphics) for that awesome 8 core Ryzen + 2080 combo. I wish I could buy one for myself too ;)
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#13
SIGSEGV
In addition to 8C/16T Ryzen 9 and Ryzen 7 models, lower-end parts will also be present. ASUS laptops featuring 8C/8T and 6C/12T processors have been listed as well, showing that we are in for a real treat at CES, when AMD is supposed to launch these processors to satisfy every user, whatever someone needs six or eight cores.
oh shit, I'm in..
I would definitely give my current laptop to my wife. :laugh:
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#14
Mats
holyprof
The article is about APUs, they aren't supposed to have a dedicated GPU. So you shold look for a laptop equipped with Ryzen CPU (the one without graphics) for that awesome 8 core Ryzen + 2080 combo.
No.
They're all APU's in the mobile segment. Ryzen CPU's without graphics are desktop only.
Huge desktop replacements with AM4 CPU's excluded.

Here are some examples, no high end yet tho, probably because of the low core count.
geizhals.eu/?cat=nb&xf=14265_H~14265_U~8149_dedizierte+Grafik
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#15
holyprof
Mats
No.
They're all APU's in the mobile segment. Ryzen CPU's without graphics are desktop only.
Huge desktop replacements with AM4 CPU's excluded.

Here are some examples, no high end yet tho, probably because of the low core count.
geizhals.eu/?cat=nb&xf=14265_H~14265_U~8149_dedizierte+Grafik
Are they handing the gaming and creator laptops market to Intel again? Or will they use somethin similar to the Nvidia/Intel iGPU tech with switching between iGPU and discrete high powered one to save battery / reduce heat?
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#16
Valantar
holyprof
Are they handing the gaming and creator laptops market to Intel again? Or will they use somethin similar to the Nvidia/Intel iGPU tech with switching between iGPU and discrete high powered one to save battery / reduce heat?
Obviously. This isn't (and has never been) limited to Intel and Nvidia. While Optimus is the market leading tech for this in terms of power efficiency, AMD has had dynamic iGPU/dGPU switching for ages. There's nothing stopping an APU from also having a dGPU connected.
Mats
No.
They're all APU's in the mobile segment. Ryzen CPU's without graphics are desktop only.
Huge desktop replacements with AM4 CPU's excluded.

Here are some examples, no high end yet tho, probably because of the low core count.
geizhals.eu/?cat=nb&xf=14265_H~14265_U~8149_dedizierte+Grafik
I think they were referring to those odd laptop SKUs using 1st-gen Ryzen desktop chips that popped up before the mobile line moved beyond 15W. There weren't many of them, and they had terrible battery life, but they did perform well.
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#17
HwGeek
Do you think we gonna see new AM4 based laptops with 3900X/3950X? they can work nicely at 65W Eco mod.
Much better idea then 9900K laptops IMO.
CES... can't wait!
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Valantar
HwGeek
Do you think we gonna see new AM4 based laptops with 3900X/3950X? they can work nicely at 65W Eco mod.
Much better idea then 9900K laptops IMO.
CES... can't wait!
There might be some Clevo DTR "laptops" doing that, but I really don't think so, no.
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