Thursday, April 16th 2020

AMD Ryzen 4000 Series "Vermeer" CPUs to be Compatible with B450 Motherboards

AMD's upcoming Ryzen 4000 series "Vermeer" lineup of CPUs based on the new Zen 3 core is slated to launch sometime in late 2020, and we have information about the chipset support of 4th generation of Ryzen CPUs. The laptop manufacturer XMG, known for its crazy Apex 15 laptop with 16 core AMD Ryzen 3950X CPU inside, has posted a Reddit thread about its new laptop. In the thread, XMG has listed specifications of the laptop, and in one point it mentions support for Ryzen 4000 series of CPUs. XMG has written that the B450 motherboards will be supporting the next generation CPUs simply by microcode updates AMD will push to OEMs. XMG uses the B450 chipset in its laptops, so they are presumably going to offer some configurations with Ryzen 4000 CPUs in the future. This information is good news for everybody who has a motherboard with a B450 chipset as they can get a bit more mileage out of it.
XMG Apex 15 Specifications
Source: XMG Reddit Thread
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58 Comments on AMD Ryzen 4000 Series "Vermeer" CPUs to be Compatible with B450 Motherboards

#51
evernessince
TheinsanegamerNChipset =/ VRM.
No one here said Chipset = VRM.

I simply pointed out videos in which B450 and B350 boards were tested on high end CPUs and did exceptionally well.
TheinsanegamerNThe gigabyte B450 pro wifi overheats when trying to push a 2700 on OC
1. We were talking about 3000 series CPUs, not 2000
2. We were talking stock, not OC

If the best you got is purposefully misinterpreting other's posts by pretending they said Chipset =/ VRM and by cherry picking, either you are willfully ignorant or blatantly trolling.

I suggest you re-read my previous post, you clearly did not get the jist of it.
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#52
Tomorrow
Gmr_ChickHeh, my 3600 in my X570 Aorus Master begs to differ there, bud. Nothing wrong with us 3600 peasants wanting to adopt X570 boards for our builds. Was my board pricey? Hell yes. Do I regret buying it? Hell no. Because this way, should I ever feel the need for "moar CPU powah!" and decide to buy a 1st R9 for cheaps (well, cheaper) I can and won't have to worry about whether my board can handle it or not.
Yep i get it. I own the same board but with a 3800X and planned upgrade to 4950X when it comes out. If it's the last AM4 gen then i might as well go all out.
Also i do see point in upgrading from 3000 to 4000. 10-15% single core ipc uplift. More in multicore. Unified L3 cache and in my case double the core and threads. If i was using 3950X already then i would be less inclined to upgrade.
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#53
evernessince
TomorrowYep i get it. I own the same board but with a 3800X and planned upgrade to 4950X when it comes out. If it's the last AM4 gen then i might as well go all out.
Also i do see point in upgrading from 3000 to 4000. 10-15% single core ipc uplift. More in multicore. Unified L3 cache and in my case double the core and threads. If i was using 3950X already then i would be less inclined to upgrade.
Depends what you do with your PC I suppose. I use my main rig for work and play so every second really counts. Zen 2 way only a 15% performance uplift but I noticed an immediate difference is smoothness. Programs just opened and everything looked buttery smooth on my 144 Hz monitor. I did not notice that kind of a difference with Zen 1 and 1+.
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#54
Tsukiyomi91
the majority of B450 boards are more than capable to power the R5 3600 all the way to a R9 3950X (on stock settings) without issues, as long there's airflow for the VRMs. Obviously a well-built (and expensive AF) X570 boards with beefy coolers, overkill VRM stages, chokes & whatnot is needed if you're planning to OC the 3950X all-year while ensuring stability.
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#55
droopyRO
My Tomahawk Max is ready :D
It can handle an overclocked 2700X to 4.3Ghz, with about 82ºC on the VRM in Prime95 small FFT. But i wish it had an additional m.2 slot though.
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#56
Tsukiyomi91
if the Tomahawk MAX B450 is capable of handling the 2700X with all-core OC, it will handle the 3950X just fine on stock settings. (also it runs a little cooler than the 3900X).
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#57
Adam Krazispeed
cosminmcmThey should work on X370 and B350 also, that was the promise. That is why I bought my X370. AM4 is AM4, the chipset should not matter.
eactly, as the main I/O is in the cpu its self, the CPU has IMC/SATA/PCI-e ect. onm the CPU cores(1000/2000 Series & the I/O die on 3000 Series
Adam Krazispeedeactly, as the main I/O is in the cpu its self, the CPU has IMC/SATA/PCI-e ect. onm the CPU cores(1000/2000 Series & the I/O die on 3000 Series
except APUs
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#58
king of swag187
yeeeemanLol to the guys that spent hundreds of dollars for X570, whereas B450 is just as good.
Worse VRM's, worse I/O, worse expansion, no PCIE 4.0, etc
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