Tuesday, May 5th 2020

Intel's next LGA1700 Socket to Last Over Two Generations

The upcoming LGA1700 socket by Intel, which makes its debut with 12th generation Core "Alder Lake-S" desktop processors, could be the first in over a decade from the company, to support more than two processor generations. Intel has maintained streak of ensuring that a mainstream desktop CPU socket won't be compatible with more than two generations of Core processors. Controversy brew when the company artificially segmented the LGA1151 socket between the 6th, 7th, and 8th and 9th processor generations, with the latter two requiring a 300-series chipset motherboard and the former two not working on the newer chipset, even though all four generations are pin-compatible, and modders have been able to get the newer chips to work on older 100-series and 200-series motherboards with great success.

According to a NotebookCheck report, Intel is designing the LGA1700 socket to support at least three future generations of Core processors (that's "Alder Lake-S" and two of its successors). This should give the platform a degree of longevity as it introduces several new computing concepts to the client desktop form-factor, such as heterogenous CPU cores. "Alder Lake-S" combines 8 each of low-power "Gracemont" and high performance "Golden Cove" CPU cores in a setup rivaling the Arm big.LITTLE, where light computing workloads and system idling are completely handled by the low-power cores, while the high-performance cores are only woken up from their power-gated slumber as needed, before being put back to sleep when they're not.
Source: NotebookCheck
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30 Comments on Intel's next LGA1700 Socket to Last Over Two Generations

#26
AusWolf
LGA1200 isn't even out yet, but they're already discussing the longevity of the soon coming replacement LGA1700. Isn't that a bit hypocritical and counter-productive towards 10th gen Core sales?

Even though my i7-7700 still serves me faithfully after 3 years, I suppose my next build will be AMD-based. At least their processors don't lose all their resale value a couple months after you buy them.
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#27
ARF
AusWolfLGA1200 isn't even out yet, but they're already discussing the longevity of the soon coming replacement LGA1700. Isn't that a bit hypocritical and counter-productive towards 10th gen Core sales?

Even though my i7-7700 still serves me faithfully after 3 years, I suppose my next build will be AMD-based. At least their processors don't lose all their resale value a couple months after you buy them.
I think Intel continues to flood the news sections about its non-existent products in order to keep its market value in check and the investors and shareholders pleased.

We all know that Intel doesn't have a competing product to AMD's Zen.
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#28
Cranky5150
TurmaniaAt a time when motherboards costs more than a cpu, this is welcome news. But with intel, you can never be too sure what they will do next.
This ^^ I remember when Motherboards were affordable and came with all of the new kit you wanted. To a extent that’s still true but, such a large gap between mid tier and top of the line IMO.
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#29
AusWolf
ARFI think Intel continues to flood the news sections about its non-existent products in order to keep its market value in check and the investors and shareholders pleased.

We all know that Intel doesn't have a competing product to AMD's Zen.
They can compete with gaming performance with their 9th gen parts, but they just can't compete with the performance/price and performance/power consumption ratios. The 10th generation seems to offset this scale even more by offering extremely low base clocks on the 65 Watt SKUs, and extremely high TDPs on the decently clocked ones. I bought my i7-7700 because it was nicely sitting in the middle ground between performance and power consumption, which seems not to exist anymore with Intel (10% less performance than the K-variant while having a 30% lower TDP). Instead they offer magic turbo 2000.1 or whatever they call it, which makes performance limited by so many factors that it makes all the 10th gen lineup (especially the higher-end ones) totally unattractive for me.

Anyway, I'm not planning on a CPU upgrade until my 7700 and GTX 1660 Ti can't play games at decent frame rates anymore (I give it about 2-3 years minimum), but if the 11th and 12th generations only build on the same flaws while having the same awful forward compatibility, then I'll definitely switch (back) to AMD.
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#30
Sunny and 75
If this proves to be true then LGA1700 platform is the one worth buying.
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