Wednesday, May 27th 2020

AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT and Ryzen 7 3800XT Benchmarks Surface

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AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen "Matisse Refresh" processors surfaced on the Futuremark online database, as dug up by TUM_APISAK, where someone with access to them allegedly posted some performance numbers. Interestingly, the clock-speeds as read by the Futuremark SystemInfo module appear very different from what were previously reported. The 3800XT is shown featuring a 3.80 GHz nominal clock, boosting up to 4.70 GHz, while the 3900XT has a 3.90 GHz nominal clock, boosting up to the same 4.70 GHz as the 3800XT. APISAK reports that the 3800XT scores 25135 points in the FireStrike physics test.

A WCCFTech report presents screenshots of Cinebench R20 single-thread performance scores of the 3900XT, where it is shown beating the i9-10900K (in a single-threaded test). The 3800XT is within striking distance of the i9-10900K in this test, and beats the i7-10700KF. This single-threaded performance figure suggests that AMD's design focus with "Matisse Refresh" has been to shore up single-threaded and less-parallelized application performance, in other words, gaming performance.
Sources: TUM_APISAK (Twitter), via VideoCardz, WCCFTech

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87 Comments on AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT and Ryzen 7 3800XT Benchmarks Surface

#51
Chrispy_
I only pulled you up on it because you used it as evidence that you knew EXACTLY what was coming.

Maybe you'll be right and the rumours are true, but you have no definite proof yet, which is what you were implying.
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#52
Tomorrow
cucker tarlsonlol,where did I say that ?
Well it's a rumor and you implied you don't believe rumors. So why believe XT exists but not believe 4,8Ghz clocks?
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#53
cucker tarlson
TomorrowWell it's a rumor and you implied you don't believe rumors. So why believe XT exists but not believe 4,8Ghz clocks?
can I believe in an XT series but with clocks other than 4.8GHz exactly ? are we allowed to take amd rumors with a grain of salt or is it full steam hype train all over again ?
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#56
Tomorrow
cucker tarlsonlol,MLID,that explains a lot :laugh:
What exactly does that explain?
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#58
BoboOOZ
Tomorrow
Tom is a very legit source with his own good sources.

FWIW, he had talked about this Matisse refresh about 2 months ago, saying about exactly what we know today, excepting exact single-thread performance.

Edit to add: exact clocks and naming can be changed at the very last minute, though, so we shouldn't dwell on that too much.
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#59
cucker tarlson
BoboOOZTom is a very legit source with his own good sources.

FWIW, he had talked about this Matisse refresh about 2 months ago, saying about exactly what we know today, excepting exact single thread performance.
we know nothing today except there is a refresh coming
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#60
kapone32
The only thing we know for sure is nothing. At the very least one can surmise that if (when) these CPUs are launched they will be looking at AMD's only arguable weakness compared to Intel. Until we have real Gaming benchmarks we cannot speak to the relevance of these CPUs. If and when they release there will be so many choices for a system build from both companies, with most being 6+ cores. It's too bad we have COVID-19 because 2020 would (and may still be) the year of the Desktop with much love from AMD, NVIDIA, ASUS, ASrock, MSI,GIGABYTE and Intel for x86.
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#61
BoboOOZ
cucker tarlsonwe know nothing today except there is a refresh coming
You and I might not have the exact definition of "knowing", for me 95% probability is enough. There have been enough leaks coming from different sources to make it a very solid rumor. YMMV, of course.
I'm not trying to join your debate, I was only trying to point out that I consider Moore's Law is dead to be a very reliable source.
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#62
cucker tarlson
BoboOOZYou and I might not have the exact definition of "knowing", for me 95% probability is enough. There have been enough leaks coming from different sources to make it a very solid rumor. YMMV, of course.
I'm not trying to join your debate, I was only trying to point out that I consider Moore's Law is dead to be a very reliable source.
how exaclty did you come up with those numbers ? 95% ? 4800mhz ?

:rolleyes:
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#63
Vorado
Well someting is odd on the 2 screens from 3d mark the cpus has lower speeds compared to CB20 screens -3900xt has 4.1 GHz and 4.8 GHz boost and 3800XT has 4.2 and 4.7 boost , a 3900x with 3.8GHz will not score 542 singlecore
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#64
Tomorrow
cucker tarlsonmostly,your devotion to believing rumors.
History has shown most tech rumors (especially if they come from reputable and multiple sources) to be quite accurate in the end. Ofcourse i could choose to ignore everything and live in ignorance but i would rather choose to believe a rumor and for that rumor to end up inaccurate or false rather than living in pure ignorance.

I often compare i to sport: there too fans speculate about transfers, results etc. For hardware enthusiast this is the closest analogue. Without real life betting of cource (god forbid someone starts gambling with money).
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#65
cucker tarlson
is waiting for the actual product same as living in ignorance to you :laugh:
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#66
Tomorrow
cucker tarlsonis waiting for the actual product same as living in ignorance to you :laugh:
By ignorance i mean people who buy a product only to discover days/weeks later that a better/cheaper whatever replacement just launched. I don't mean people on tech forums commenting on rumors about upcoming products. Obviously WE already know something is coming. We may not know the EXACT details but we know more than most people.
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#67
BoboOOZ
cucker tarlsonwe know nothing today except there is a refresh coming
kapone32The only thing we know for sure is nothing.
I think you guys should settle your differences first :D
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#68
cucker tarlson
TomorrowWe may not know the EXACT details
not what you are claiming
mlid told you very exact rumors,and when has a youtube rumor channel been wrong
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#69
kapone32
BoboOOZI think you guys should settle your differences first :D
I am not trying to argue with anyone. I just posted my thoughts on the thread. :toast:
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#71
Tomorrow
cucker tarlsonnot what you are claiming
mlid told you very exact rumors,and when has a youtube rumor channel been wrong
I never claimed to know exact details. Does not mean i believe everything MLID or someone says all the time. But i do take note. I don't brush it aside just because a "wrong" person said it. Like some people can't comprehend that it's equally possible to watch and enjoy a lighthearted LTT video and a highly technical GN video and be a subscriber to both. Some people these days take things too black and white.
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#72
EarthDog
VoradoWell someting is odd on the 2 screens from 3d mark the cpus has lower speeds compared to CB20 screens -3900xt has 4.1 GHz and 4.8 GHz boost and 3800XT has 4.2 and 4.7 boost , a 3900x with 3.8GHz will not score 542 singlecore
...or that's just how those programs read things... differently. ;)
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#73
Vayra86
cucker tarlsonseems like it's just the same cpu with a new number and price (?) new ryzens 3000 manufactured this year have already been doing 200mhz more.
www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_recenzje/nowszy-lepszy-sprawdzamy-czy-nowe-procesory-ryzen-3000-sa-lepsze.html

so I don't know what our editor means by BUSY :laugh:
Perhaps the story underneath that is the sustained boost overall, and not so much the peak of it. We already know Ryzen is not particularly the highest clocking arch, but very strong at maximizing within power budget.

But yeah when I hear marketing around 'gaming CPU' I get that same yucky feeling as marketing a 'Creator CPU'. Its BS. Performance is what it is.
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#74
TheoneandonlyMrK
I think a glanced over aspect of this rumour is IF AMD can regain a competitive stance on Ryzen 3### with higher clocks on cores and a much more significant boost to infinity fabric upto 2000Mhz rumoured, all.

Without removing too much performance viability from a future zen3 launch that's very effin close then zen 3 must be killer.
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#75
EarthDog
Vayra86But yeah when I hear marketing around 'gaming CPU' I get that same yucky feeling as marketing a 'Creator CPU'. Its BS. Performance is what it is.
I think the point there is that some CPUs are better for certain activities than others. A creator wouldn't want a higher clocked 6c/6t,12t CPU when there are 12c/24t+ with lower clocks that do the job better. You don't lose much on the gaming side regardless, but if it is primarily a gamer, why wouldn't I want the most performant CPU for the job I need? It just depends on the use model... :)
theoneandonlymrkI think a glanced over aspect of this rumour is IF AMD can regain a competitive stance on Ryzen 3### with higher clocks on cores and a much more significant boost to infinity fabric upto 2000Mhz rumoured, all.
I really feel this is going to be just existing binned CPUs. IF won't change, just clocks up to about 200 MHz. It's as uninteresting as Intel's chips. :p
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