Thursday, June 11th 2020
AMD Responds to Allegations of Ryzen Power Reporting Deviation Reducing CPU Life
AMD on Thursday posted its first official response to reports that the deviation in power reporting by the CPU VRM controller to a Ryzen processor against its actual power delivery may be shortening processor lifespan, sparked by HWInfo introducing the "Power Reporting Deviation" sensor. "We are aware of the reports claiming that select motherboards may be under-reporting certain power telemetry data that could alter the performance and/or behavior of AMD Ryzen processors under certain conditions. We are looking into the accuracy of these reports," the response begins.
AMD also clarified that Ryzen processors aren't dictated entirely by the power telemetry from VRM controllers. "We want to be clear with our customers: AMD Ryzen processors contain a diverse array of internal safeguards that operate independently of external data sources. These safeguards enforce the safety and reliability of the processor during stock operation. Based on our initial assessment, we do not believe that altering external telemetry in the manner described by those public reports would have a material impact on the longevity or safety of a user's processor." AMD's response also suggests that the company isn't aware of power reporting deviation or at least the extent to which motherboard manufacturers rely on tricking the external power telemetry setup to send more power to processors, in a bid to notch ahead in stock performance or overclocking headroom.
Source:
Tom's Hardware
AMD also clarified that Ryzen processors aren't dictated entirely by the power telemetry from VRM controllers. "We want to be clear with our customers: AMD Ryzen processors contain a diverse array of internal safeguards that operate independently of external data sources. These safeguards enforce the safety and reliability of the processor during stock operation. Based on our initial assessment, we do not believe that altering external telemetry in the manner described by those public reports would have a material impact on the longevity or safety of a user's processor." AMD's response also suggests that the company isn't aware of power reporting deviation or at least the extent to which motherboard manufacturers rely on tricking the external power telemetry setup to send more power to processors, in a bid to notch ahead in stock performance or overclocking headroom.
44 Comments on AMD Responds to Allegations of Ryzen Power Reporting Deviation Reducing CPU Life
Riiiiiight. Who would ever show up with a dead CPU and admit it was because of overclocking ? Come on.
Many low end up to mainstream notebook are using Compal motherboard, they are the cheapest and also the worst.I see many notebook vendor now reserving Quanta for their high end, heck I never saw Pegatron plugged into $2500+ notebook.
Few Ryzen generations later seems they made the right call.
They days where you can get a E5200 2.5GHz and OC it to 4.7GHz or get Athlon II X3 2.8GHz and unlock it it to Phenom II x4 @3.8GHz are gone RIP.
If people are so affraid of it turn off PBO/XFR then. You'll get the base clocks 24/7 with no automatic overclocks at all. I have my 2700x for a year, no problems and its constantly hanging all core 4.2Ghz. This is due to the big cooling thats attached and the slight undervolt. Over time when the water warms up it drops back to 4150Mhz, 4100Mhz and so on. It's normal.
Afterall the gap seems to be greater than it looks like.
The master cpu killer is the software who turns it obsolete, "my two cents".
Basically the stats reported themselves can be inaccurate to the tune of 12% ~ which for a fully loaded 3900x or 3950x is quite a lot of power deviation!