Thursday, October 8th 2020

AMD Ryzen 5000 "Zen 3" "Vermeer" Launch Liveblog

AMD is announcing its next-generation Ryzen 5000 series desktop processors in the Socket AM4 package. These 7 nm processors see the implementation of the company's new "Zen 3" microarchitecture, and are expected to push the performance envelope. AMD CEO Dr Lisa Su takes centerstage in a pre-recorded launch event stream which we are live-blogging. These are facts as they appear, along with our analysis.

Update 16:01 UTC: Looks like this is a pre-recorded stream made to look live (a premiere).
Update 16:02 UTC: AMD runs through the "Zen" journey.
Update 16:04 UTC: Dr Su takes centerstage
Update 16:05 UTC: PS5 + Xbox Series X/S design wins are big for AMD
Update 16:06 UTC: AMD significantly changed PC performance over the past 3 years.
Update 16:08 UTC: Zen 3
Update 16:09 UTC: "Best single-threaded performance and gaming performance:" Dr Su
Update 16:09 UTC: Shipping within Q4 2020, confirmed.

Update 16:10 UTC: IPC increases confirmed, new cache topology
Update 16:11 UTC: Unified 8-core complex per chiplet
Update 16:11 UTC: 19% IPC Uplift!!!
Update 16:13 UTC: Breakdown of the performance contributions
Update 16:14 UTC: Relentless commitment to energy efficiency, +24% vs prior generation
Update 16:14 UTC: 2.8x efficiency vs. Core i9-10900K
Update 16:15 UTC: "Zen 4" on 5 nm confirmed.

Update 16:16 UTC: Ryzen 9 5900X 12-core/24-thread, 19% IPC increase, higher clock speeds, 105W TDP
Update 16:16 UTC: 28% gaming performance increase vs. 3900XT. AMD has leveled up to Intel
Update 16:18 UTC: Massive gaming performance gains. Average 26% gain in CPU-limited resolutions. AMD already has parity in high-resolutions that are GPU-limited
Update 16:19 UTC: AMD beats Intel in single-threaded Cinebench. It's curtains for Intel's 1T CPU leadership
Update 16:20 UTC: The best possible PC gaming experience: Rob Hallock.

Update 16:21 UTC: The World's Best Gaming CPUs. Lineup:
Update 16:21 UTC: Prices:
Update 16:22 UTC: Available in November 5

Update 16:22 UTC: 16-core Ryzen 9 5950X, 105W
Update 16:23 UTC: Up to 27% faster than the R9 3950X
Update 16:23 UTC: 59% faster than i9-10900K in creator workloads. And Gaming. Priced $799
Update 16:24 UTC: Radeon Big Navi teaser
Update 16:25 UTC: 5900X + 6000 series flagship performance preview
Update 16:26 UTC: That was fast! No pointless celebrity demoes, just "we're the fastest, kthxbai"

Update 16:38 UTC: AMD will bundle Far Cry 6 with the 5950X, 5900X, 5800X in select markets.

Update 16:39 UTC: And this concludes our liveblog. Wow.
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122 Comments on AMD Ryzen 5000 "Zen 3" "Vermeer" Launch Liveblog

#1
phanbuey
buy calls, make popcorn... I am ready.
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#2
kapone32
This is very interesting.
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#3
ZoneDymo
sooo shall I finally drop my 2600k? think I might just do that

Also the Radeon bit is just epic, the background music makes it feel like im watching a Halo trailer, good stuff.
But yeah as we can see its not quite up there with the 3080 but beats the 2080(ti), now its just a matter of powerconsumption and price and we can have a winner.
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#5
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
Hmm a new Ryzen 3 rig to start out 2021 is sounding really nice.
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#6
kapone32
This is why I bought a X570 board.
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#7
ShurikN
Damn that's a $50 increase across the stack, with 8 core getting the biggest shaft as they took the 3800X for base. Well 6 core it is for me.
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#8
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Hello 5900X, here I come.
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#9
kapone32
According to the benchmarks the 6000 is just as fast as the 3080 in COD Warzone?
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#10
lynx29
wow big navi matches rtx 3080 at 4k in 3 games, about 5 fps slower than 3080, but still wow. well done AMD
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#12
Turmania
I was expecting some increase is frequencies. I think it is priced a bit on the highside, but damn I want it !
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#13
Hellfire
5900x/5950x gaming performance will be interesting to follow...
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#14
mrthanhnguyen
kapone32
According to the benchmarks the 6000 is just as fast as the 3080 in COD Warzone?
88 fps in cod is amazing. Pretty close to 3080. Hope they price it at $500.
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#15
kapone32
ShurikN
Damn that's a $50 increase across the stack, with 8 core getting the biggest shaft as they took the 3800X for base. Well 6 core it is for me.
I am willing to bet the 5600 will be a nice version of a 3300X upgrade.
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#16
Franzen4Real
please just let there be availability.... 5900X incoming.

Interesting charts on Big Navi at the end. Looks to be between 3070 and 3080 (only based on two titles compared to TPU's 3080 benchmarks). Now it just comes down to the price.
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#17
birdie
Let me be brutally honest. AMD is no different than Intel in terms of dictating prices when they have the performance crown.

The pricing for the Ryzen 5000 series:

5600X: $300 - very close to the price of the 3700X which featured two more cores.
5800X: $450
5900X: $550
5950X: $800

All priced $50 higher than their Ryzen 3000 counterparts. What's more, there's no sign of 5700X which was a sweet spot for the previous gen Ryzen CPUs. Either you pay $50 more for the 3600X alternative or you have to pay whopping $120 more to get just two more cores.

Customers first, my ass. More like profits first now that Intel still cannot solve their 10nm node.
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#18
Chomiq
This made me excited about Zen 4.
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#19
the54thvoid
They're being quite unequivocal about the performance. I actually giggled when they paired it against the Intel chip on ST.

Go AMD. Just remember folks, this is the poorer company competing, it seems, toe-to-toe with the big guy.

Unfortunately, I think Big Navi might fall short of Nvidia's best.
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#20
jesdals
Think I might go all in with a 5950x but didnt se any info about compability with mainboards and would have liked to see the Ifinity speeds
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#21
kapone32
mrthanhnguyen
81 fps is slower than 3080. I just saw its avg 90fps with the 3080 on youtube.
88 vs 90 is nothing.
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#22
Hyderz
that single core improvement is outstanding
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#23
qcmadness
birdie
Let me be brutally honest. AMD is no different than Intel in terms of dictating prices when they have the performance crown.

The pricing for the Ryzen 5000 series:

5600X: $300 - up by $50 and very close to the price of the 3700X which featured two more cores.
5800X: $450 - up by $100 (!)
5900X: $550 - just $50 more.
5950X: $800 - just $50 more.
If you don't have any counter parts from Intel, then AMD could charge as high as they like. Just like how NVIDIA charges for GPUs.
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#25
Rahnak
I hope they do a 5700X later on. There's a pretty big price gap between the 5600X and the 5800X.
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