Wednesday, October 27th 2021

Final Intel 12th Gen Core CPU Spec and Pricing Leak Hours Before Official Reveal

For those tired of Intel leaks, please look away now, as this is likely to be one of the last leaks before the official reveal later today. The final specifications, as well as pricing for the first six of Intel's 12th Gen Core CPUs has made an appearance online and the good news is that the official pricing isn't as bad as we've been led to believe, based on earlier leaks and it'll at least make up some of the cost increase of the Z690 motherboards over the Z590 models.

Spec wise, we're not looking at anything unexpected here, it simply verifies what has leaked so far, with one exception, maximum turbo power. Although the base TDP of all six CPUs is 125 W, it seems like Intel is using the maximum turbo power as yet another product differentiator, at least more so than it has previously. The Core i9 CPUs get a maximum turbo power of 241 W, whereas the Core i7's top out at 190 W and the Core i5's at 150 W. At least Intel is being open about it and the question is if it will have any affect on overclocking or not. Obviously having fewer CPUs cores would result in a lower power draw overall, but then the question is why the Core i5's have a base TDP of 125 W.
Price wise, the new Core i9-12900K has a 1K list price of US$589, some $80 cheaper than the leaked pricing from Micro Center, but still about $40-50 more expensive than the 11th Gen Core i9-11900K. The KF SKU is $15 cheaper at US$564, which is a smaller margin than between the 11th Gen K and KF SKUs. Moving down a step to the Core i7 CPUs, the 12700K is listed at US$409, with the KF SKU coming in at US$384, which is in line with the 11th Gen Core i7 parts. Finally the Core i5-12600K is listed at US$289, with the KF SKU at US$264, which is about $15-25 higher than the 11th Gen Core i5 equivalents.
Overall it seems like fair pricing, if Intel delivers in terms of performance and based on some Intel game benchmarks, it looks like the 11th Gen CPUs are going to be outperformed quite easily, whereas it looks like AMD might still hold its own in some titles. We'll have to wait for official reviews next week before we can say if this will hold true or not.
Source: Videocardz
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56 Comments on Final Intel 12th Gen Core CPU Spec and Pricing Leak Hours Before Official Reveal

#1
GerKNG
from -3% to +30% (and that's intels own " 100% true" gaming performance claims) is by far not enough to buy in as an early adopter for DDR5.
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#2
Makaveli
GerKNGfrom -3% to +30% (and that's intels own " 100% true" gaming performance claims) is by far not enough to buy in as an early adopter for DDR5.
Based on this so far I don't see Zen 3d not matching this when it comes to gaming will be interesting.
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#3
NuCore
GerKNGfrom -3% to +30% (and that's intels own " 100% true" gaming performance claims) is by far not enough to buy in as an early adopter for DDR5.
This time TPU did not show off when it comes to publishing the news, which was already flying at the forum here a few hours ago;)

Besides, there are many unknowns like TDP, final prices of DDR5 memory and Alder Lake processors in the retail market. Have you seen the CD prices on Amazon? Whatever makes sense, it costs £240 (Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite) and the average ASUS motherboard prices range between £400-600! It's a mockery to pay as much as £500 for the ASUS Prime Z690-P! Such B550 Aorus Elite is literally twice cheaper than its counterpart on the Z690 :eek:

Apart from who plays Mount and Blade II or Troy? Also, in real terms, the efficiency is higher by several percent. Besides, AMD is still ahead in SoTR, which is heavily reliant on the CPU. If in the other games the difference between Alder Lake and ZEN3 will be up to a dozen percent, AMD with Ryzen 6000 (Zen3 +) with 3D cache will easily catch up, and maybe overtake Intel a bit.
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#4
Vya Domus
GerKNGfrom -3% to +30% (and that's intels own " 100% true" gaming performance claims) is by far not enough to buy in as an early adopter for DDR5.
That's not the problem, because of DDR5 we don't know the actual performance of these CPUs since most of the improvements come from DDR5 itself.
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#5
LFaWolf
For me as a developer, the interesting thing to watch is how will the OS, Windows for me and Linux for some, handle the task and thread scheduling. What tasks are assigned to the performance core and efficient core will have a big impact on the perceived performance.
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#6
john_
I think the big bet for Alder Lake will be compatibility. We saw with Denuvo having problems with big.little. If compatibility ends up as a non existing problem, then Alder lake will be just another valid option for consumers and the only option for anyone wanting to go DDR5 no matter what. If compatibility becomes a parameter, even if the software having problems is old software, that could be a major parameter for anyone thinking about Alder Lake.
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#7
RandallFlagg
IF that pricing is correct, that's gonna blow a hole in AMDs margins. 12600K faster than a 5800X and priced like the street price of a 5600X?

DDR5 is not required for those citing this as an issue. One leaked benchmark showed a 12700K with DDR4-3200 trading blows with the 5950X on PugetBench.
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#8
beautyless
I heard from Twitter that disables E-cores make performance gain in some benchmarks.
And E-cores has clock so high (3.9-4.2) so that they can perform 1/3 performance of P-cores while using 1/5 power.
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#9
phanbuey
I hope this is another Conroe moment
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#10
Makaveli
phanbueyI hope this is another Conroe moment
I don't see that happening AMD is competitive this time around.

The competition for these chips coming out in Q1 2022 will be interesting once we get some full reviews.
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#11
KarymidoN
another day, another intel leak. its almost like they're not even trying to hide their stuff anymore, if i'm a reviewer i'm not signing Intel NDA's anymore, you can get their products on retail before release Anyway.
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#12
Chrispy_
RandallFlaggIF that pricing is correct, that's gonna blow a hole in AMDs margins.
Those prices stated are reseller prices for buying 1000 units at a time.

Street pricing is usually 10-20% higher than that to account for retailer margins. Then add sales tax.
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#13
DeathtoGnomes
RandallFlaggIF that pricing is correct, that's gonna blow a hole in AMDs margins. 12600K faster than a 5800X and priced like the street price of a 5600X?

DDR5 is not required for those citing this as an issue. One leaked benchmark showed a 12700K with DDR4-3200 trading blows with the 5950X on PugetBench.
I'd like to see that review, 12700 vs 5950X, got a source?

From what I've seen there is no hard evidence that 12600 is faster than 5800X. And dont say clock speeds, cuz we know that doesnt matter as much anymore...

it was 5600X not 5800X

www.techpowerup.com/288249/intel-core-i5-12600k-47-faster-than-ryzen-5-5600x-in-leaked-cpu-z-benchmark

I give ZERO credibility to leaked Intel PRs, but there are people that take those as gospel, which makes me laugh.
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#14
phanbuey
MakaveliI don't see that happening AMD is competitive this time around.

The competition for these chips coming out in Q1 2022 will be interesting once we get some full reviews.
True they're not sitting on K10 sure - but it will be interesting for sure. Hell of alot better than watching sandy bridge get refreshed.
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#15
R0H1T
beautylessAnd E-cores has clock so high (3.9-4.2) so that they can perform 1/3 performance of P-cores while using 1/5 power.
You can do the same with Zen, just lower clocks & in fact also with Intel (big) cores ~ efficiency drops like a rock once clocks ramp up!
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#16
ViperXTR
Can't wait for reviews, the 12600K/F in particular is very interesting
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#17
NuCore
KarymidoNanother day, another intel leak. its almost like they're not even trying to hide their stuff anymore, if i'm a reviewer i'm not signing Intel NDA's anymore, you can get their products on retail before release Anyway.
History has often shown that excessive hype is often a sign of camouflaging certain imperfections and winding customers up, and then looking at a given product through rose-colored glasses ;)
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#18
RandallFlagg
DeathtoGnomesI'd like to see that review, 12700 vs 5950X, got a source?

From what I've seen there is no hard evidence that 12600 is faster than 5800X. And dont say clock speeds, cuz we know that doesnt matter as much anymore...

it was 5600X not 5800X

www.techpowerup.com/288249/intel-core-i5-12600k-47-faster-than-ryzen-5-5600x-in-leaked-cpu-z-benchmark

I give ZERO credibility to leaked Intel PRs, but there are people that take those as gospel, which makes me laugh.
www.hardwaretimes.com/intel-core-i7-12700k-content-creation-benchmarks-surface-faster-than-ryzen-9-5900x/

vs 5900X :



Original - the fastest scoring 5950X in their database gets a 1575 vs this 12700K score of 1565 using DDR4 :

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#19
dicktracy
$564 is a steal. Just goes to show how greedy AMD has become. Thank you Intel for saving us.
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#20
KarymidoN
NuCoreHistory has often shown that excessive hype is often a sign of camouflaging certain imperfections and winding customers up, and then looking at a given product through rose-colored glasses ;)
yeap. the leak shows processors that draw 241W, thats the boost power draw. not even OC, just boost. thats a HUGE red flag.
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#21
Vya Domus
I find it hilarious that Apple has chips inside laptops with just 2 PE cores and here comes Intel with 8... on a desktop, where it doesn't matter one bit.
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#22
R0H1T
Vya DomusI find it hilarious that Apple has chips inside laptops with just 2 PE cores and here comes Intel with 8... on a desktop, where it doesn't matter one bit.
Why though? Intel's become kind of a joke these days ~ overpromising for 5+ years & nearly every time delivering well under! The next time they say we'll release a chip on a new node X year we should add +2 to it :slap:

The only reason Intel has 8 is to compete with AMD, of course the masses don't usually know what "cores" they're buying so who knows maybe class action lawsuit material :laugh:
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#23
Makaveli
dicktracy$564 is a steal. Just goes to show how greedy AMD has become. Thank you Intel for saving us.
lol yes having a superior product than your competitor and pricing it accordingly is greedy.

Please never run a business...
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#24
Crackong
MakaveliBased on this so far I don't see Zen 3d not matching this when it comes to gaming will be interesting.
The early Zen3 3DV 5900x sample had 4-25% uplift in gaming.
So basically the same gaming performance vs ADL

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#25
Richards
Crazy 12600k destroys the 5600x & 5800x.. intel slaped to AMD segments with this cpu lol
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