Sunday, July 17th 2022

Intel i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" ES Improves Gaming Minimum Framerates by 11-27% Over i9-12900KF

Intel's 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" is shaping up to be another leadership desktop processor lineup, with an engineering sample clocking significant increases in gaming minimum framerates over the preceding 12th Gen Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake." Extreme Player, a tech-blogger on Chinese video streaming site Bilibili, posted a comprehensive gaming performance review of an i9-13900K engineering sample covering eight games across three resolutions, comparing it with a retail i9-12900KF. The games include CS:GO, Final Fantasy IX: Endwalker, PUBG, Forza Horizon 5, Far Cry 6, Red Dead Redemption 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, and the synthetic benchmark 3DMark. Both processors were tested with a GeForce RTX 3090 Ti graphics card, 32 GB of DDR5-6400 memory, and a 1.5 kW power supply.

The i9-13900K ES is shown posting performance leads ranging wildly between 1% to 2% in the graphics tests of 3DMark, but an incredible 36% to 38% gain in the CPU-intensive tests of the suite. This is explained not just by increased per-core performance of both the P-cores and E-cores, but also the addition of 8 more E-cores. Although the same "Gracemont" E-cores are used in "Raptor Lake," the L2 cache size per E-core cluster has been doubled in size. Horizon Zero Dawn sees -0.7% to 10.98% increase in frame rates. There are some anomalous 70% frame-rate increases in RDR2, discounting which, we still see a 2-9% increase. FC6 posts modest 2.4% increases. Forza Horizon 5, PUBG, Monster Hunter Rise, and FF IX, each report significant increases in minimum framerates, well above 20%.
The second graph below shows the highlight of these tests, significant increases in minimum frame-rates. Averaged across tests, the i9-13900K ES is shown posting a 11.65% min FPS gain at 4K UHD; 21.84% increase at 1440p, and 27.99% increase at 1080p.

A big caveat with all this testing are the CPU clock speeds. Engineering samples do not tend to come with the clock speeds or boosting behavior of the retail processors, and hence don't correctly reflect the end product, although some ES chips may come with unlocked multipliers. In this testing, the i9-13900K ES was set at a maximum P-core clock speed of 5.50 GHz all-core. 5.50 GHz was assumed to be the max boost frequency of the retail chip, and compared with an i9-12900KF that boosts up to 5.20 GHz for the P-cores, but was running at 4.90 GHz all-core.

The i9-13900K ES was also subjected to power-consumption testing, where it posted significant peak gaming power compared to the retail i9-12900KF. A retail i9-13900K will likely come with lower power-consumption than what is shown here, as it will follow boosting behavior typical of retail chips at stock frequencies, when compared to an ES that's been specified to run at a certain frequency.

Intel is preparing to launch its 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" processor family in the second half of 2022. This period could also see rival AMD introduce its Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors. "Raptor Lake" combines 8 "Raptor Cove" P-cores with 16 "Gracemont" E-cores, and additional L2 cache for both core types. The I/O of these chips is expected to be similar to "Alder Lake," and hence they're built for the same LGA1700 platform.
Sources: Extreme Play (Bilibili), harukaze5719 (Twitter), VideoCardz
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76 Comments on Intel i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" ES Improves Gaming Minimum Framerates by 11-27% Over i9-12900KF

#1
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
Endwalker is the expansion for FF XIV (14) the mmo not FF IX (9) the single player RPG. @btarunr it looks like he made a typo.
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#2
Crackong
The biggest increase is power consumption
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#4
Ja.KooLit
they need to increase the IPC to reduce power consumption. Instead of clocking higher which results to like too much power consumption.. Although, that AmD is aiming.
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#5
watzupken
What they failed to show is the amount of power required to deliver this performance bump. It’s likely that you need custom water cooler to keep the heat in check. Considering this is the same Golden Cove P-cores on steroids, plus the 2x increase in the same Gracemont E-cores on the same node, power consumption won’t look pretty.
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#7
mama
Looks good, even at 4K gaming where it isn't expected.
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#8
Why_Me
I hope this doesn't turn out to be Rocket Lake 2.0.
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#9
Arkz
Bjorn_Of_Iceland1080p gaming kek
Ya know people use 240Hz 1080p screens right?
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#10
ratirt
I hope Intel can still improve something since those power draws are seriously starting to worry me about how this all will look in the near future.
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#11
oxrufiioxo
People will pair this with the 4090/4090ti for the ultimate powah setup.... I expect plenty of fireworks. At the very least there are going to be some very nervous breakers.


I'm starting to think my 1000w psu is going to be midrange capable here pretty soon.
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#12
ratirt
oxrufiioxoPeople will pair this with the 4090/4090ti for the ultimate powah setup.... I expect plenty of fireworks. At the very least there are going to be some very nervous breakers.


I'm starting to think my 1000w psu is going to be midrange capable here pretty soon.
If things go the direction of unlimited power (which they are currently), you will need two 1000W PSUs at some point.
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#13
PapaTaipei
I'm sure it's bs, this is why the graph doesn't show the min fps for csgo.
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#14
Tomorrow
watzupkenWhat they failed to show is the amount of power required to deliver this performance bump. It’s likely that you need custom water cooler to keep the heat in check. Considering this is the same Golden Cove P-cores on steroids, plus the 2x increase in the same Gracemont E-cores on the same node, power consumption won’t look pretty.
Average 20% power increase and 21% minimum fps (but not average) increase. So perf per/w essentially stays the same despite power and performance both increasing.
To be fair AMD also increases power with Zen 4.
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#15
Crackong
oxrufiioxoPeople will pair this with the 4090/4090ti for the ultimate powah setup.... I expect plenty of fireworks. At the very least there are going to be some very nervous breakers.


I'm starting to think my 1000w psu is going to be midrange capable here pretty soon.
I think I will go for a mid range setup for next gen...not because of $$ but power consumption.
Being in the same room with a 1000W computer is no joke for those lived in a warmer climate area.
It can surely kill me and my electricity bill with one stone.
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#16
oxrufiioxo
CrackongI think I will go for a mid range setup for next gen...not because of $$ but power consumption.
Being in the same room with a 1000W computer is no joke for those lived in a warmer climate area.
It can surely kill me and my electricity bill with one stone.
It stays in the 18c-24c range for the majority of the year where I live but even my 5-600w at the wall pc with my AC set to 20C is uncomfortable at times.

Not looking forward to 700w+ systems being the norm.
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#17
aQi
This is too early for such a chip to show down its potential. There is something missing. Intel just might be hiding something under the hood for the AM5 cpus.
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#18
ratirt
oxrufiioxoIt stays in the 18c-24c range for the majority of the year where I live but even my 5-600w at the wall pc with my AC set to 20C is uncomfortable at times.

Not looking forward to 700w+ systems being the norm.
To be fair, if people want to get those GPUs and CPUs for 1000w and 500w respectively that is fine by me but I don't. I'm more of a balance dude and to be fair I don't want to stress my electric wires to much if not necessary. I guess I would have to stop at the mid range set ups from now on. Pursuit of the performance nowadays has become ridiculous and any discussions about it are being moot. At least for me.
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#19
ZoneDymo
I said it once and ill say it again: increased performance at the cost of more power consumption isnt progress
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#20
AlwaysHope
aQiThis is too early for such a chip to show down its potential. There is something missing. Intel just might be hiding something under the hood for the AM5 cpus.
Yep & all that from one Chinese source.... still won't stop the comments!
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#21
DeathtoGnomes
PapaTaipeiI'm sure it's bs, this is why the graph doesn't show the min fps for csgo.
I have to agree with this, it also needs to show 1% as well to truly measure FPS gains.
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#22
Bomby569
ZoneDymoI said it once and ill say it again: increased performance at the cost of more power consumption isnt progress
i absolutely agree. What we are doing is strap a drag racer engine on a VW beetle, and calling it innovation.
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#23
DeathtoGnomes
Bomby569i absolutely agree. What we are doing is strap a drag racer engine on a VW beetle, and calling it innovation.
Ever see a Beetle do 10.9 in a quarter mile on its own engine (modified of course)? Its really stuffing ten pounds of crap in a 5 pound box without shorting it out. Pretty soon high watt PSUs will cost more than a 3080.
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#24
JAB Creations
"Intel's 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" is shaping up to be another leadership desktop processor lineup"

That will last for exactly one motherboard socket while socket AM5 will be supported for years with CPUs that may even double the IPC of the first generation release. I would call that leadership.
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#25
Unregistered
Woo Hoo Gooooooo Intel. Nice, hopefully the 13700k will be just as good.

People run GPU's that are twice the power use of the CPU and don't mind. I don't give a crap about power use as long as i can cool it, and it is fast. If you don't want high power use, don't build a high end gaming rig, simple.
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