"Sony has no comment as to why it took so long to determine when America would get this console"

sony are stupid should be good enough :laugh:

Looks like I'll be picking up a PS3 here in a few months, though I am going to wait until after the holiday season and hopefully another price cut.

cjoyce1980sony are stupid should be good enough :laugh:

I don't know if you were trying to be ironic there or not...

blah. i still would rather spend the 500 bucks and get the 60 gigs plus the wireless controls and internet.

I can tell you why it took sony too long to get this news out to the US. Because guess what what little sales on PS3's they were making are going to drop even further until November 2nd, seriously who would buy A PS3 now if they were educated enough to know that in just a few weeks there will be a new price tag? But hey guess what I wonder how much money Sony is losing now than before when they had the 60 GB model with all those cool features like PS1 and PS2 emulation chips on it. I am still guessing that the costs will outweigh the price even further than before with the 60 GB model purely based on the fact that $200 price cuts cant be made on the production process that quickly.

the 80GB will still play ps2 games right? And it sucks the 40gb wont. Sure, the new games are nice, but there arent alot of them, and its hard to justify theoretically throwing away a game library.

Bleh, PS3 was so hyped up before its launch, even during the launch. Microsoft is outselling them by a lot not just in the U.S., its no surprise to me that Sony is trying to compete by introducing a lower-end product alongside dropping the price

i'm considering buying a ps3, for blu ray mostly.

me too. im really on the fence. i would love a blu-ray player now that i have an hdtv. the HD movies on demand look incredible, even with comcast's crappy compression. so i would love to see what a true high def movie looks like in 1080p. plus, the dvd player i own now is progressive but does not upconvert so the movies just dont cut it compared to the HD movies. so the ps3 is a blu-ray player, an upconverter, a ps1 and ps2 console and when good games finally come out for it, a ps3 console :laugh:

No backward compatibility? Pfft. The 80gb version uses an emulator in place of the EE to make some older games run... that's probably what Sony will do with the 40gb version as well (unless of course, Sony explicitly states somewhere that they won't).

there will be software emulation but the support will probably be lacking worse than what it is for Microsoft

Easy Rhinoblah. i still would rather spend the 500 bucks and get the 60 gigs plus the wireless controls and internet.

Same here...cost more, but I think it's the extra feats are worth the extra $$.

Easy Rhinome too. im really on the fence. i would love a blu-ray player now that i have an hdtv. the HD movies on demand look incredible, even with comcast's crappy compression. so i would love to see what a true high def movie looks like in 1080p. plus, the dvd player i own now is progressive but does not upconvert so the movies just dont cut it compared to the HD movies. so the ps3 is a blu-ray player, an upconverter, a ps1 and ps2 console and when good games finally come out for it, a ps3 console :laugh:

exactly. i got hd tv (going to get a new 1080p lcd soon) and i am going to buy a hd-dvd player for my 360 so that way if it isn't on blu-ray i can get it on hd-dvd. although i wish they would do more dvd/hd-dvd discs. i hate buying it twice.

Easy Rhinome too. im really on the fence. i would love a blu-ray player now that i have an hdtv. the HD movies on demand look incredible, even with comcast's crappy compression. so i would love to see what a true high def movie looks like in 1080p. plus, the dvd player i own now is progressive but does not upconvert so the movies just dont cut it compared to the HD movies. so the ps3 is a blu-ray player, an upconverter, a ps1 and ps2 console and when good games finally come out for it, a ps3 console :laugh:

Worth every penny. And you can run PPC64 distros on it to boot, as long as you properly configure the bootloader. Do it, DO IT!!!. lol.

Back back to the news, I don't exactly know if our market is going to like the 40GB version. It completely lacks compatibility with PS1/2 games. I see that hurting it's sells in America. At least the 80GB has software emulation for ps1/2 titles.

Wile EWorth every penny. And you can run PPC64 distros on it to boot, as long as you properly configure the bootloader. Do it, DO IT!!!. lol.

Back back to the news, I don't exactly know if our market is going to like the 40GB version. It completely lacks compatibility with PS1/2 games. I see that hurting it's sells in America. At least the 80GB has software emulation for ps1/2 titles.

correction it has some software emulation. It is nowhere near as good as what the original 20GB and 60 GB models had to offer in terms of percent compatibility.

effmastercorrection it has some software emulation. It is nowhere near as good as what the original 20GB and 60 GB models had to offer in terms of percent compatibility.

What model are you referring to? The 40GB has ZERO ps1/2 support. The 80GB has emulation support. I never stated how well the 80GB supports ps1/2 titles.

Don't know how bad it is overall, but my PS1/PS2 games look like they'll do alright according to Sony's compatibility page. Most run fine (with latest firmware), there are a couple with issues still, but they are very minor. Like this one for Wild ARMs:

Description: Throughout gameplay, when the user selects Icon from the Options menu, a single pixel in the lower left corner of the icon customization window is shifted to the left.

Certainly a welcomed price break! I'm now $100 closer to getting one :D

With two systems I'll be doing NES, SNES, Genesis, TG16, Neogeo, N64, GameCube, Wii, PS1, PS2, and PS3.

JizzlerDon't know how bad it is overall, but my PS1/PS2 games look like they'll do alright according to Sony's compatibility page. Most run fine (with latest firmware), there are a couple with issues still, but they are very minor. Like this one for Wild ARMs:



Certainly a welcomed price break! I'm now $100 closer to getting one :D

With two systems I'll be doing NES, SNES, Genesis, TG16, Neogeo, N64, GameCube, Wii, PS1, PS2, and PS3.

Wii doesnt support neogeo does it?


And Wile E. I was reffering to the fact that they both don't have the EE inside of them so they would both have the same emulation support I would assume since they are after all still the same console for the most part on the inside.

effmasterWii doesnt support neogeo does it?


And Wile E. I was reffering to the fact that they both don't have the EE inside of them so they would both have the same emulation support I would assume since they are after all still the same console for the most part on the inside.

I understand what you are trying to say, but Sony already stated that the 40GB model will not play PS1/2 titles. Reverse compatibility has been removed completely for the 40GB, emulation or otherwise. 80GB will still support PS1/2 thru emulation.

... Still ludicrus prices. Sony can kiss my arse until them PS3s come down to a realistic price.

Ketxxx... Still ludicrus prices. Sony can kiss my arse until them PS3s come down to a realistic price.

$400 is ludicrous? Considering the features, I think it's reasonable. To get a 360 Premium, and the HD-DVD player from MS costs $520.

effmasterWii doesnt support neogeo does it?

Three Neogeo games were released a couple weeks ago with 4 more on the way (Samurai Showdown!!). Support probably came with the Wii update a month or so ago.

www.vc-reviews.com/channel/11/neo-geo_channel.php

Since the Gameboy Player had a short life, and it didn't look like it would hook up anyway... maybe we'll see GB/GBC/GBA games on the Wii as well. Been awhile since I've done Link's Awakening :)

so the 60gb version that sells for 500 bucks at best buy emulates ps1 and ps2? or does it play the games another way?? i heard that ps1 and ps2 games look better on the ps3 but im not sure if that is through emulation or not.

Easy Rhinoso the 60gb version that sells for 500 bucks at best buy emulates ps1 and ps2? or does it play the games another way?? i heard that ps1 and ps2 games look better on the ps3 but im not sure if that is through emulation or not.

The US 60GB still has the Emotion Engine in it, so it plays PS1/2 with hardware, not emulation. And I don't know compared to the emulation consoles, but the 60GB upscales ps1/2 games. They look pretty darn good. lol

Wile EThe US 60GB still has the Emotion Engine in it, so it plays PS1/2 with hardware, not emulation. And I don't know compared to the emulation consoles, but the 60GB upscales ps1/2 games. They look pretty darn good. lol

ok that is the version i want then!!

Easy Rhinook that is the version i want then!!

Yeah in actuality if you were to emulATE THE Games to work on the PS3 like Microsoft is doing with the 360 then you would get the option to upscale it NATIVELY in High Definition, so that is one benefit to having your PS1 and PS2 games be emulated versus just having the EE inside of them.