Monday, November 5th 2007

Phoenix Planning to Bypass Windows

Phoenix Technologies, a company well-known for providing the BIOSes used by numerous motherboard manufacturers, is planning a new technology which could allow users to bypass Windows when launching regularly used applications. Known as HyperSpace, Phoenix wants to give users the ability to load software such as email clients, web browsers and media players without the need to first load Windows – this means the programs load almost instantly, saving the user quite a bit of time if they’re in a hurry. The company eventually sees the potential for companies like Dell and Lenovo to ship PCs with a range of software from word processors to instant messaging pre-loaded so that they can be launched via HyperSpace with Windows only being required for the more complex applications and multitasking. This technology could also see a dramatic increase in battery life – when running using HyperSpace, some programs will use just half the power compared to when they are launched in Windows. Woody Hobbs, CEO of Phoenix Technologies, said the following:
As Windows gets more and more complex, we've seen startup times get longer and longer. If I go to the airport and try to connect to a Wi-Fi network, I'm waiting for five minutes just to connect. That's ridiculous - people usually just give up and use their cell phones or PDAs.

Source: Wired News
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42 Comments on Phoenix Planning to Bypass Windows

#1
ktr
Nyte said:
Why do they use the term "high impedance"? It's just a fan.
lol, wrong thread....
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#3
erocker
Senior Moderator
Um.. I love it how people rip into M$! People bitch and moan... Why in the hell aren't they making operating systems? Good idea by Pheonix, takes me back to the pre-Windows days.
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#4
[I.R.A]_FBi
cdawall said:
its a great idea i hope this takes off it might make M$ rethink there bloated OS's
MS Seven is coming with a new shell concept, when i read the thing its like they want a MS UNIX


that aside .. i think ASUS has this already.
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#5
Atnevon
zekrahminator said:
I'm very curious how this'll work.
It won't. Micro$oft wont let it.
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#6
ktr
[I.R.A]_FBi said:
MS Seven is coming with a new shell concept, when i read the thing its like they want a MS UNIX


that aside .. i think ASUS has this already.
Asus payed $10 million dollars to have this technology. Its basically a Damn small Linux made smaller with little preloaded apps. All this put in a nonvolatile memory that is soldiered to the board. Turn on the machine, press a key in bios screen, and it boots from the memory.
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#7
Grings
dont asus's new x38 boards have a flash based linux already, and im sure somebody done a shuttle style mini pc that done this a few years ago
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#8
ktr
Grings said:
dont asus's new x38 boards have a flash based linux already, and im sure somebody done a shuttle style mini pc that done this a few years ago
I remember on a gigabyte board that has like 8mb of memory was able to run a really light weight linux, which could boot like in 5sec (from power off to desktop). I think that started the craze for these feature.
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#9
von kain
it will as long as balmer is ceo of microsoft don't expect windows to be any better..bring bill gates back..
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#10
belpois
Bios loader!

This is going to be more like the linux server bios chip but better, I guess?
I have one of the linux bios replacement and they are really fast i can even run music on them
there good see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzB-tUwDLc
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#11
effmaster
Wow so many Windows haters out here. They need o be smacked by the Microsoft Ninjas:slap::slap::slap:

But seriously this article is somewhat biased and untrue. For me it only takes about 3 minutes at the maximum to load Windows. The computer isnt necessarily bloated then just by Windows it is also bloated by users software programs that they loadf in there and the more there is the longer the load times. I do agree though, this would be a great feature for everyone to have but again I can guarantee you that as long as your computer isnt overflowed with all kinds of software then it will only take maybe 3 minutes maximum for it to load. It used to load even faster when I first got my laptop, before I started loading all of my files onto it. So users are just as responsible as Windows is at slow load times and like jlarpi said as technology evolves and gets faster so will the load times:toast:

Peace out,
Signed Effmaster
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#12
Steevo
We already have this, to a small degree, it is called live CD's.



MS makes the same. You can burn almost anything that MS has made to a CD and run it that away. Nothing but basic drivers or you can preload your own and burn it. Windows PE with OOBE configurator.


With this we have just stepped back to the year 1993. Just get more RAM, put your system in to hibernate and about 20 seconds later you have anything available again. Modern board support hibernate to RAM and many new laptops also do. And the last I checked the battery life using such was about 30 days on a full charge.
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#13
mas0n
No, this is not the end of Windows, no this type of OS will not make your gaming rig like a console, no, no and no.

This is a BASIC operating system that loads simple drivers to execute simple operations. HP and MANY others have been building things like this into some of their laptops for years and quite frankly it's just not that cool.

Who the hell turns their desktop off and WHY?
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#14
Grimskull
you can use reatogo for a live CD of Windows XP, kinda handy at times..... at times! Linux are being used on alot of small devices..... have a look at yoggie.com. Its a linux security sytem, all the security applications of a server on the size of a usb pen drive that you plug into your PC... no need for a software internet securites package. Really handy!
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#15
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
mas0n said:
No, this is not the end of Windows, no this type of OS will not make your gaming rig like a console, no, no and no.

This is a BASIC operating system that loads simple drivers to execute simple operations. HP and MANY others have been building things like this into some of their laptops for years and quite frankly it's just not that cool.

Who the hell turns their desktop off and WHY?
i do its called it cost a bunch of money to run 24/7
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#16
mas0n
cdawall said:
i do its called it cost a bunch of money to run 24/7
It probably doesn't cost what you think it does, especially if your system is idle the majority of the time. I pay high rates for electricity derived from wind-power and it's still only 15.5 cents/kWh which means:

average power draw of 100W: $135.78/year
average power draw of 150W: $203.67/year
average power draw of 250W: $339.45/year
average power draw of 350W: $475.23/year

quite frankly that's just not that much money. I'd rather avoid the stress hard drives endure during spin up/down, and a solid Windows PC with enough RAM performs best overall after it's been up for a few days anyway.

plus, you should be folding :D
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#17
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
yea i dont have that much extra money or i would have a new rig...
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