Sunday, March 9th 2008

Intel Yorkfield Processors Next Week?

Following delays due to issues with the processor system bus on Intel’s Yorkfield processors, it looks like the 45nm quad-core chips may finally go on sale sometime during the next few days. Industry sources are claiming that the processors have now gone into mass production, meaning the 45nm Core 2 Quad Q9300, Q9450 and Q9550 should be available from next week. The Q9550 and Q9450 will run at 2.83GHz and 2.66GHz respectively, with a 1333MHz bus and 12MB of L2 cache. The Q9300 will run at 2.5GHz with an L2 cache of 6MB. Intel's official prices for the Q9550, Q9450 and Q9300 are $530, $316 and $266 respectively. The 45nm manufacturing process should allow the chips to run cooler and potentially allow more headroom for overclocking.Source: X-bit labs
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82 Comments on Intel Yorkfield Processors Next Week?

#1
erocker
Senior Moderator
CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
The hell with that native quad core crap. Its just a marketing gimmick. Like SLi RAM. If you really want to look at it that way, which quad core is better? AMD's "native" quad core, or Intel's "double" dual core? Looks like Intel has been the winner. And dont say that Im a "fanboy" either. Because I buy w/e is best at the time of my purchase. My last 5 builds have been AMD.

No matter how you look at it, so long as it is in one processor, it IS a quad core.
He was responding to a question, and you post this flame bait post. This is a warning.
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#2
Wile E
Power User
mandelore said:
Hey Wile E, welcome to the club ;)

youl get 4ghz easy on 1.35+ volts. I game on mine at 430fsbx10.5 multiplier @ 4.5GHz :)

however, with the QX9650, the fsb wall is not strictly to do with the motherboard, its the chip itself. some have gotten higher fsb's on their chips, mine dont like a v high fsb. I struggle with 440fsb. Tho its possible a bios revision may help with that. the 1004 bios is playing nicely with my cpu, no issues so far.
With an unlocked multi, I'm not too worried about a high fsb. I have 1200Mhz ram, so I'll put it on a higher strap. At 400fsb, I can run my ram at 1200MHz on the dot. I'll just set it to 400fsb, give or take a few Mhz, and play with the multi.
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#3
Tatty_One
Super Moderator
Wile E said:
I just bit the bullet, and ordered my QX9650 last night from the egg. These new 9 series quads just don't have any multis I can work with.
I am very Jelous! Tax return or not, I still could not justify that kind of outlay for a "light" hobby but well done to you, makes me need to go SLI even more now as I am not gonna get anywhere near your single card score with the Palit's!

What replacements you getting?......8800GT's again or better and did you have to send the fried ones back cause you can appreciate that from the UK thats a costly business!
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#4
Tatty_One
Super Moderator
freaksavior said:
since i don't have a quad yet would it be worth getting the q9450? i only want to run it at maybe 3.4 same if i got a q6600.
The Q9450 will be good, I think at even 3.6gig (which probably equates in performance terms to a Q6600 @ 3.7gig), if you are happy with that it should run well and fairly cool and would be a decent investment from say a low to mid ranged duellie although you may be actually better off saving some cash and just going Q9300, you should get a fairly cool and cheap 3.4gig out of that.
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#5
Wile E
Power User
Tatty_One said:
I am very Jelous! Tax return or not, I still could not justify that kind of outlay for a "light" hobby but well done to you, makes me need to go SLI even more now as I am not gonna get anywhere near your single card score with the Palit's!

What replacements you getting?......8800GT's again or better and did you have to send the fried ones back cause you can appreciate that from the UK thats a costly business!
No word yet. He only made me send back the 2 that I fried, so I'm guessing more 88GTs.
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#6
Tatty_One
Super Moderator
Wile E said:
No word yet. He only made me send back the 2 that I fried, so I'm guessing more 88GTs.
Thanks, I still have the 2 out of 3 working but I have decided I am going SLi so I will run the 2 cards initially without voltmodding them at say 770 core, then maybe voltmod them after.
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#7
Paulieg
The Mad Moderator
Tatty_One said:
IMO the only viable options is the 9550 with the 8.5 multi but TBH, as such high prices, it isnt worth the price difference over the Kentsfield for possibly a max of 100-150mhz core speed.
Completely agree here. At the current asking price for the 9550, it's really not worth upgrading if you've already got yourself a Q6600 or a Xeon x3220, and anything else is really no more than a lateral move.
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#9
trt740
There is gonna be a new stepping QX9650 aswell with an improved FSB
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#10
trt740
Tatty_One said:
I am very Jelous! Tax return or not, I still could not justify that kind of outlay for a "light" hobby but well done to you, makes me need to go SLI even more now as I am not gonna get anywhere near your single card score with the Palit's!

What replacements you getting?......8800GT's again or better and did you have to send the fried ones back cause you can appreciate that from the UK thats a costly business!
I bought one aswell, and intend to play with it a bunch then sell it got it at near a 40 percent discount. The when the Qx9650 is gone I will get my e8500 at a greatly discounted price.
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#11
X800
So now i am very confused what to buy E9450 or Q6600 or even an X3220 (Xeon version of Q6600)duacore? :banghead: .The E9450 was faster at the same clock ,than the Q6600.And what is would be the limiting factor for me becuse i have no experience of intel systems (overcklocking theese new cpus).All intels i had was ages a go. :o
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#12
trt740
X800 said:
So now i am very confused what to buy E9450 or Q6600 or even an X3220 (Xeon version of Q6600)duacore? :banghead: .The E9450 was faster at the same clock ,than the Q6600.And what is would be the limiting factor for me becuse i have no experience of intel systems (overcklocking theese new cpus).All intels i had was ages a go. :o
Wait and see I'm betting the Q9450 will do atleast 3.8ghz 24/7 making it a better buy than a Q6600 if not the price of both Q6600 and X3220 will drop and you can still buy one of them. I would wait tell next week and see just how much better intel made the FSB of the Q9450. Then decide what to get. The Best deal on a Quad right now is a X3210, X3220 and Q6600 but in a week it may not be. Also some sites have E8500 dual cores they will do 4.5ghz 24/7 on air, and cost 280.00 shipped those are also very good deals for the fastest Dual Core Cpu ever made.
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#15
Tatty_One
Super Moderator
trt740 said:
I bought one aswell, and intend to play with it a bunch then sell it got it at near a 40 percent discount. The when the Qx9650 is gone I will get my e8500 at a greatly discounted price.
Barking mad :eek:
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#16
Tatty_One
Super Moderator
trt740 said:
yes thats a good deal and a very good seller.
Thats so good I am considering buying all 3! nice little profit to be made there, easily sell them for £100 profit per chip over here.
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#17
strick94u
I'm going back to a 478 hyperthreading cpu I'm sick of all this speed.
I want the coolness of hyperthreading.:cool:
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#18
trt740
Tatty_One said:
Thats so good I am considering buying all 3! nice little profit to be made there, easily sell them for £100 profit per chip over here.
well to tell the truth I don't intend to keep it anyway, I'm just gonna use it to make my E8500 cheaper. My X3210 went in about 3 hours for 240.00 so I was able to get my money back on it. It was a rare, rare quad all 4 cores read almost identical temps. I haven't ever seen that before, plus it is a little beast did 1.5 ghz oced over the stock clock.
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#19
iLLz
One thing overlooked...

One thing overlooked is that the newer chips will have the SSE4 instruction set. So if you currently don't have a Q6600 the Q9450 and other Yorkfield processors make the most sense. Some video encoding software is starting to take advantage of these instructions and the benchmarks show 40% + drops in encoding time.

So this could benefit anyone who uses a digital camcorder or who simply encode dvds. This is one intriguing aspect of the chip I look forward to most.

- iLLz
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#20
Tatty_One
Super Moderator
trt740 said:
well to tell the truth I don't intend to keep it anyway, I'm just gonna use it to make my E8500 cheaper. My X3210 went in about 3 hours for 240.00 so I was able to get my money back on it. It was a rare, rare quad all 4 cores read almost identical temps. I haven't ever seen that before, plus it is a little beast did 1.5 ghz oced over the stock clock.
Yeah, I cant quite manage that accuracy on all 4 cores but still not too bad, just look at the temps at 1.4V at 3.4gig, it's only at that voltage because I was playing around at 3.6gig, she will normally do 3.4 on 1.325V .....with room ambients of 19C.............
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#21
MikeJeng
Are these supposed to be G0?



Somebody told me they were "C1"
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#22
Unregistered
iLLz said:
One thing overlooked is that the newer chips will have the SSE4 instruction set. So if you currently don't have a Q6600 the Q9450 and other Yorkfield processors make the most sense. Some video encoding software is starting to take advantage of these instructions and the benchmarks show 40% + drops in encoding time.

So this could benefit anyone who uses a digital camcorder or who simply encode dvds. This is one intriguing aspect of the chip I look forward to most.

- iLLz
that is only if u use divx codec . The codec of the future is H.264 which offers better quality divx at the same bitrate . And it doesn't need sse4 cause its source code(of the x264 encoder) is so well optimized .
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#24
Wile E
Power User
trt740 said:
Wait and see I'm betting the Q9450 will do atleast 3.8ghz 24/7
I seriously doubt that. Not because of the chip, but because you are very lucky to find a mobo that will run a quad at 475 fsb 24/7 stable. It's not even about the model of mobo, it's about the individual mobo. Most mobos will only do 400-420fsb stable with a quad. With good ones doing 440-450, and the ungodly ones doing more than that. It's all about the luck of the draw. If it were me, I'd rather take my chances on the higher multi of the Q6600, unless I already confirmed my board is stable with a quad at the fsb needed for those kinda clocks on a Q9450.

zOaib said:
brand new on ebay for 800.00 + free shipping ............ i was lookign at these myself , but cannot justify that huge price for a cpu while mine still kicks ass.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CPU-intel-core-2-extreme-qx9650-3-0-GHZ-OEM_W0QQitemZ220209987838QQihZ012QQcategoryZ141323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Yeah, but that's OEM. Ask around, with my track record, it was worth it for me to spend the extra $200 for the warranty. lol.

wolf2009 said:
that is only if u use divx codec . The codec of the future is H.264 which offers better quality divx at the same bitrate . And it doesn't need sse4 cause its source code(of the x264 encoder) is so well optimized .
No, that's not true, if anything, H.264 needs the SSE4 optimization more. Not because it's inefficient, but because it's such an intensive codec. Divx/xvid encoding is much faster, due to it's less intensive nature.
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#25
kaneda
evil bill said:
bah, too late for me but tbh Im very happy with my E8200 :)
Nice chip, im happy with my E6300 (400*7, 2.8ghz) and thats over a year old now.

Even with those prices, im still gonna wait for nehalem, its going to be like the jump to core 2 all over again ;)
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