Price

Hope so that 4870X2 will cheap.
Waiting for difference between 4870 and 4850. Will it be far or ... ;)

wow awsomeeee :)

Sweet!!!:)

Feeling the greatness in the making...quite a bit under $500 is just too good to be true - but it is :D

yay for us!

This looks like its going to be an expensive hardware year for me. I might try to muster up all of my patience and see if i can wait until the next iteration of cards is released.

magibegThis looks like its going to be an expensive hardware year for me. I might try to muster up all of my patience and see if i can wait until the next iteration of cards is released.

like wise....im going o be so tempted to give everything that comes out a try.

Now I`m becoming more interested! Too bad it doesn`t have any HDMI ports like the new units from nVidia :(

They usually give you a DVI to HDMI adapter that passes the audio through as well. I can't wait for this card, and conveniently my birthday is in August.

So, is this like AMD's Q2? So, like Nov or Dec :laugh:

If ATI doesn't get these cards out, they're screwed again. I would expect an 8800 repeat.

TheGuruStudSo, is this like AMD's Q2? So, like Nov or Dec :laugh:

If ATI doesn't get these cards out, they're screwed again. I would expect an 8800 repeat.

we don't really run into issues with ATI being behind schedule - except for the HD2000 series . . . I think that had more to do with interuptions by the merger, though. When ATI gives official release dates, they're usually right on schedule - sometimes even launching early.

Hopefully, though, AMD's recent late to market track record won't start spilling over to ATI.


I'm planning on picking up a 4870x2 when they're released - I sure hope CrossfireX will be available between the 4ks and 3ks (I get the feeling it will, but we'll have to see).


This is still looking to be an awesome and highly competitive year between the two camps!

The GeForce GTX 280 is more of a $600 card. If a dual-GPU HD4870 X2 outperforms it and is even $100 cheaper, ATI wins, wins big. Because I'd much rather buy two HD4870 X2 units instead of two GTX 280 that would anyway cost more. Sort of like the 8800 Ultra vs. HD3870 X2 comparision.

-Tkpenalty is worried that this R700 series won't really be anything significant from AMD in contrast to the GTX280s....-

tkpenalty-Tkpenalty is worried that this R700 series won't really be anything significant from AMD in contrast to the GTX280s....-

I think he is right to be concerned! These cards will beat the current NVidia lineup but from what I have read, most wont beat the GX2 and by then the GX2 could be the price of a MacDonalds (albeit a pretty sizeable Meal)...........aint speculation a wonderful thing :D I am going ATi for my next card anyways, I need a change, last 3 cards have been green, need a little red in my life.

Temps_RiisingI think he is right to be concerned! These cards will beat the current NVidia lineup but from what I have read, most wont beat the GX2 and by then the GX2 could be the price of a MacDonalds (albeit a pretty sizeable Meal)...........aint speculation a wonderful thing :D I am going ATi for my next card anyways, I need a change, last 3 cards have been green, need a little red in my life.

Me too.

I'm optimistic about two RV770's being able to beat a GT200, it's somewhat like those $500~$600 G80 GTX/Ultra being beaten by R680.

I think its unfair to keep the comparison up.
Nvidia ripped out the 8800GTX Flagship card before they ripped out their crappier cards, and it wasnt for a long while, The Ultra. ATi was nowhere to be found. Nvidia owned everything that was decent. Due to the time difference that it took ATi to respond, i think its unfair to compare the G80 with something released a year later.

I think what stands out the most is how much money AMD/ATI have poured into their research and development to catch up to Nvidia, whilst Nvidia seems to be refining their technology to be more efficient, effective and productive. Opting for cheaper parts assures higher profit margins.

I wouldnt be surprised if this round of Nvidia cards are shitty versions of whats really to come out.

In the end, AMD/ATi will prevail over Nvidia!

the site states Q2, yet it also states the release being in August; doesn't Q2 end June 30?

TheGuruStudSo, is this like AMD's Q2? So, like Nov or Dec :laugh:

If ATI doesn't get these cards out, they're screwed again. I would expect an 8800 repeat.

what do you mean by this?

23 working days left until Q3, and counting. Hope the gnomes are on standby!

i cant wait. i think the 4870x2 supports octocrossfirex

mk_lnthe site states Q2, yet it also states the release being in August; doesn't Q2 end June 30?

I think they are talking in terms of fiscal years. The fiscal year starts sometime in March/April, so...August is prolly somewhere in Q2 FY2008 ;).

I get what you're saying though. As said previously, it's all speculation at this point.

[I.R.A]_FBiwhat do you mean by this?

I mean if ATI doesn't deliver, they will be owned off the line again and continue to lose.
(8800 came out and ATI could only sit there a sulk for a year)

::drool::

TheGuruStudI mean if ATI doesn't deliver, they will be owned off the line again and continue to lose.
(8800 came out and ATI could only sit there a sulk for a year)

I would tend to agree . . . but ATI is typically right on par with nVidia releases - that didn't change until the late arrival of the HD2000 series, and I still believe that delay had more to do with the AMD/ATI merger than with not having the cards ready.

But, if defense of ATI over that - they've been releasing new series like wild-bulls in an effort to catch back up to nVidia, meanwhile, nVidia has been sandbagging their GPUs. Every time ATI has something new and definitely promising, we quickly hear of another release slated from nVidia . . . and lo and behold, it's a refinement or a re-hash of their current tech. Sandbagging is a little annoying for us consumers, as we're subjected to resuscitated offerings until the competition is back on par - look at Intel vs AMD. Intel has been sandbagging their CPUs for a long time now.


But, again, paper specs don't mean much - not until we can see firsthand how the hardware performs. As much as everyone is skeptical of the R700, I'm defi routing for ATI with this one. R700 was developed alongside R600, and it appears to address all the shortcomings of the R600 series. Now, we saw how close ATI was able to get up on nVidia with R600 and a series of revisions. They might not have been neck and neck, but they were defi catching up with a hurry. If R700 performs better than R600 in all areas, I think it'll defi be a surprise.

keep in mind, also, ATI has always been very conservative as to what their hardware is capable of, even on paper. The last series we saw that trumped nVidias was the 1900 series, and ATI released that one quietly. The last card that ATi have acted proud about was the HD3870x2, and, TBH, I think they defi deserve their trumpets on that one.