Tuesday, June 10th 2008

HP's 24-inch DreamColor LP2480ZX LCD Can Display More Than 1 Billion Colors

HP has just announced its new color-loving 24-inch computer professional display, the DreamColor LP2480ZX. Proud to be the world's first to provide more than 1 billion colors in a 30-bit LED-backlit display, HP's latest work of art delivers more than 64 times the colors available on today's mainstream LCDs. The display is result of a collaboration with DreamWorks Animation SKG and addresses the need for affordable and consistent color accuracy in the animation, game development, film/video post, broadcast, product design and graphic arts segments. Moreover, the LP2480zx has native widescreen resolution of 1920x1200. HP also claims that the display's white luminance range is from 40cd/m2 up to 250cd/m2. The contrast ratio is 1000:1, the response time: 12ms black-to-white or 6ms gray-to-gray. Inputs include two DVI-I, one DisplayPort 1.1, one HDMI 1.3, one component (YPbPr), one S-Video, and one Composite. The display is also HDCP compliant. The new LP2480xz can already be found on the market for the reasonable price of $3,499.
Source: HP
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28 Comments on HP's 24-inch DreamColor LP2480ZX LCD Can Display More Than 1 Billion Colors

#1
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
lol iv ne ver had a problem with 65 million colors...i think this is a waste because seriously how many shades of blue do you need?...i know having alot of colors is good for CG movies or games...but honestl most of those shades arent even distinguishable by the human eye.
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#2
Unregistered
Solaris17lol iv ne ver had a problem with 65 million colors...i think this is a waste because seriously how many shades of blue do you need?...i know having alot of colors is good for CG movies or games...but honestl most of those shades arent even distinguishable by the human eye.
But for 3500$ its a hell of a bargain!:roll:
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#3
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
i cant wait to save up and get one! :rockout:
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#4
pentastar111
I really enjoyed the "for the reasonable price of $3,499"...:laugh:
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#5
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
what is hilarious is that the picture doesnt do the monitor justice. especially since i am viewing this on a crappy work lcd. also, who or what business would ever spend that kind of money for that product? maybe it is less about selling and more about progressing.
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#6
Lillebror
The number of colors you can see at any given instant is fairly limited, perhaps in the tens of thousands, but your visual system is capable of adapting to different viewing conditions to make those tens of thousands depend on what is around them. For example, in a very dark scene in a movie, you might be able to distinguish many dark colors that would all look alike in a bright scene. There are also issues about how the color information is encoded, processed, and displayed that make those seemingly extra colors helpful.
So the more color we got on the screens, the better! :D
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#7
DaMulta
My stars went supernova
Solaris17lol iv ne ver had a problem with 65 million colors...i think this is a waste because seriously how many shades of blue do you need?...i know having alot of colors is good for CG movies or games...but honestl most of those shades arent even distinguishable by the human eye.
You hate technology?

I wating for a screen that looks like I'm looking out the window.....That will be here one day.


I hope a store around here demos one. So I can see what 1 billion colors look like.
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#8
thoughtdisorder
malwareThe display is result of a collaboration with DreamWorks Animation SKG and addresses the need for affordable and consistent color accuracy in the animation, game development, film/video post, broadcast, product design and graphic arts segments.
That part when singled out seems to make sense! My first thought was :eek: !

But it makes sense for animation and development purposes. ;)
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#9
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
Easy Rhinoalso, who or what business would ever spend that kind of money for that product? maybe it is less about selling and more about progressing.
some of the big names in CaD & CGI would but obviously one of the huge benefits of having so much fame is the ability to get products cheaper then retail not just because they order a bulk of these monitors for their staff to use.

Im sure if u were one of the main artists for Dreamworks or the dudes who ran the matrix 3D animations where bullets & plaster were flying everywhere & u went to one of your supervisors/managers & demanded a better monitor with a valid reason behind it - they wont refuse - or at least they shouldnt unless they already spent all their design budget on a life time supply of ice cream.
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#10
malware
When big companies put a lot of money, time and technology ... don't worry there'll always be groups/customers and people that will benefit from the fruit.
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#11
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Me too. a bit extreme for just 1 billion colors. Id love to see one in action though. Imagine Blue Ray Movies on that.
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#12
pentastar111
With so many colors and the 12ms response times, it is probably aimed at vid/graphics work rather than gaming and casual use...stilll expensive considering it is a 24", that is still huge...but that price is more than a 30" a 40" and even most 46 inch monitors! And it's rivaling if not blowing past the price of most "big" screen tv's below 65"!!! Wow! TOOOOOO expensive for this regular joe!
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#13
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
FreedomEclipsesome of the big names in CaD & CGI would but obviously one of the huge benefits of having so much fame is the ability to get products cheaper then retail not just because they order a bulk of these monitors for their staff to use.

Im sure if u were one of the main artists for Dreamworks or the dudes who ran the matrix 3D animations where bullets & plaster were flying everywhere & u went to one of your supervisors/managers & demanded a better monitor with a valid reason behind it - they wont refuse - or at least they shouldnt unless they already spent all their design budget on a life time supply of ice cream.
yea, i figure there is probably a handful of high end cad,cgi businesses out there that could make use of this.
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#14
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
DaMultaYou hate technology?

I wating for a screen that looks like I'm looking out the window.....That will be here one day.


I hope a store around here demos one. So I can see what 1 billion colors look like.
me too. i yearn for the day that i dont have to look out a window anymore!! :laugh:

reality :slap: me

how would a screen like that be demoed? obviously a digital camera cant capture a billion colors (i dont think atleast) and if you use film what scanner can process a billion colors?
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#15
hat
Enthusiast
hrm... I wonder what this is in bits :p
1024 bit? right now the best we have is 32 bit color
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#16
DaedalusHelios
1,000:1 contrast ratio for the LED backlit models is not impressive. :(
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#17
Disparia
Easy Rhinome too. i yearn for the day that i dont have to look out a window anymore!! :laugh:

reality :slap: me

how would a screen like that be demoed? obviously a digital camera cant capture a billion colors (i dont think atleast) and if you use film what scanner can process a billion colors?
Cameras and scanners that capture/scan at 10, 12, or 14bpc aren't that rare.
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#18
ShinyG
Wow, 30bit color depth!
I think this HP, if calibrated properly, would be a blessing for anyone working in Photoshop who actually needs that color precision. For the rest of us, it's too expensive and maybe too slow to be used casually.
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#19
Disparia
hathrm... I wonder what this is in bits :p
1024 bit? right now the best we have is 32 bit color
1024bit? That's quite large :D

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0096313270847732240753602112011387987139335765878976881441662249284743063947
4124377767893424865485276302219601246094119453082952085005768838150682342462
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#20
lemonadesoda
NICE piece of equipment. I think i'd like to replace my dual displays with these.
for the reasonable price of $3,499.
...then again, perhaps not. :eek:


****
30 bit display means 10 bits for each colour rather than just 8 bits for each color.

Yes, given that MOST displays claim 8 bits (ie. 256 different shades of red, green or blue, or white (grey)) in practice they cant quite make even that. Put up a 8 bit colour spectrum on red and see if you really can differentiate ALL colours, or if there is loss of color-contrast in certain areas, esp. near black or full colour.

Also, many consumer displays are actually only 6 bit and dither or sparkle to 8 bit. That means, they work with only 64 shades of red, blue and green etc.

But the 10bit is NOT just about displaying more colours, is about being able to apply a color correction (like gamma) to the overall display when you calibrate it to fit, e.g. a printer, or PANTONE inks, etc. 10bit is critical otherwise WYSINWYG.
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For anyone that HAS SEEN a professional TFT next to a consumer TFT the stability and clarity in comparison is amazing. You can work at a pro display for hours on hours without your eyes getting tired. HOWEVER, is it really worth the price difference? Not for consumers, or for gaming. But if you are into professional DTP, then YES. This is supposed to compete against the EIZO range of pro TFTs (and NEC SpectraView, medical displays, etc.)

Do you really want your doctor to be examining your x-rays with only 6bits (64) of dithered 8bit (256) shades of grey? No.

This is 6bit grey. Can you see the bands?


This is 8bit grey. Can you see bands? Stick you nose near the screen. Can you see "sparkle"? Are the bands perfectly uniform from top to bottom? Does the white wash out at the end, or can you see different shades of white? Does the black disappear into one black hole, or can you see different shades of black?


A top quality 10bit (30bit) TFT will fix all these problems.

For gaming or "consumers" looking at photos, the above is probably OK. But you CAN see all the problems. Now what happens if you apply a gamma correction on an 8 bit greyscale?

Blxxdy aweful. So if you need to calibrate your TFT it is critical you have more than 8 bits of colour representation. If you work in the medical field you need 10bit grey.

oh fxxkor. zoom the bottom picture and use the scroll bars to move the picture around slowly. I can see interference showing as quickly flashing cyan dots. My SyncMaster 204Ts is clearly applying a sparkle algorithm. AVOID.
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#21
HTC
Solaris17lol iv ne ver had a problem with 65 million colors...i think this is a waste because seriously how many shades of blue do you need?...i know having alot of colors is good for CG movies or games...but honestl most of those shades arent even distinguishable by the human eye.
How many shades of blue are needed to display the blue screen of death?
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#22
a111087
hope soon 1 Bil. of colors will be not so rare on monitors, i have not seen the difference, but i'm guessing it might worth a thousand $$ (but not 3 :) )
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#23
Wile E
Power User
Very good post, lemonadesoda. And just to brag a little, my monitor displays the pics perfectly. :D I love my panel. DEATH TO TN-FILM!!!! lol.

@DaedalusHelios - 1000:1 contrast is perfectly fine. This is a professional model, so I'm willing to bet that's the panel's native contrast. All those really high contrast ratings you see on monitors are achieved using Overdrive technologies, same with all those really low response ratings. The problem with overdrive is, it adds noise. I shut OD off on all of my screens if the option is presented to me, and guess what, once calibrated, the panel actually looks better with it off.
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#24
blkhogan
3500 smackers :eek: Thats alot of money that could be spent elsewhere like on beer and hookers :rockout:
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#25
TheGuruStud
blkhogan3500 smackers :eek: Thats alot of money that could be spent elsewhere like on beer and hookers :rockout:
No, no, hookers and blow. Get it right :D
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