Wednesday, August 27th 2008

AMD Brings in New Desktop CPUs, Cuts Prices

AMD has added weight to its CPU lineup by bringing in new CPUs and cutting prices for some older ones. New CPUs aside, the price cuts by AMD are rather dramatic to say the least. To begin with, it's known that the Phenom X4 9950 has a rated TDP of 140W, and that only a chosen few motherboards support it, perhaps leading to cold market response. AMD has revised the processor with a lower rated TDP of 125W. This isn't new, AMD did the same with the 125W B3 stepping model X4 9750 months ago, releasing a revised 95W B3 part. What's more, the Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition could sport a surprising price of US $186. Perhaps it's AMD paving the way for its 45nm parts. At its new TDP and price the X4 9950 is a much better buy.

The Phenom X3 8750 would sell for $139, making it very competitive with Intel's offerings at that price-band. Additionally, AMD added new dual-core processors based on the Brisbane core, the Athlon X2 6500 Black Edition priced at $105 and an Athlon X2 5050e 45W low-power part at $90.

Changes to the prices of existing processors are as followed.

For the Phenom X4 series:
  • The 140W Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition gets price parity with its cooler twin, cut from $235 to $186
  • The Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition slips further down from $194 to $180
  • The Phenom X4 9750 gets much needed respite from an illogical price of $215 to $170
  • The Phenom X4 9650 moves from being priced at $195 to $156
For the Phenom X3 series:
  • Phenom X3 8750 from $175 to a new low $134
  • Phenom X3 8650 from $145 to $123
Some Athlon X2 parts get double-digit prices:
  • Athlon X2 6000+ from $112 to $95
  • Athlon X2 5600+ from $102 to $88
  • Athlon X2 5400+ from $87 to $78
  • Athlon X2 5200+ from $76 to $68
Hexus.net spoke with Raj Suman, Euro product marketing director at distributor Avnet, to get confirmation of approximate street pricing.Source: Hexus.net
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73 Comments on AMD Brings in New Desktop CPUs, Cuts Prices

#1
PP Mguire
If X2 6500+ has less cache than 6400+ ima be pissed.
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#4
X1REME
btarunr said:
Kentsfield is two years old. Give us a Yorkfield or Bloomfield beater.
i think this is just the taster, i hope anyway
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#5
PP Mguire
I say, they should release a 45nm 4.0ghz 7000+ X2 to compete with current Wolfdales :D So cheap guys like me can get a good AMD dualy and not have to jump on the quad bandwagon yet to reach those speeds.
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#6
candle_86
PP Mguire said:
If X2 6500+ has less cache than 6400+ ima be pissed.
its a brisbane core aka 512k.

the 9950 has come down enough when i get another decent job i can afford to get it
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#7
candle_86
PP Mguire said:
I say, they should release a 45nm 4.0ghz 7000+ X2 to compete with current Wolfdales :D So cheap guys like me can get a good AMD dualy and not have to jump on the quad bandwagon yet to reach those speeds.
thats a total rework of the X2 they can't do it with brisbane it doesnt clock that high, im suprised they got the 6500 out of it personally. They can't use Phenom because there are 4 cores and even disabling 2 won't help that much and cost is to high
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#8
PP Mguire
Where does it say this 6500 is Brisbane though?

And if they can make tri-core they can make dual core.
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#9
candle_86
it says it in the top post thats its brisbane
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#10
mdm-adph
btarunr said:
Kentsfield is two years old. Give us a Yorkfield or Bloomfield beater.
Speak for yourself -- I'd be happy with a Kentsfield beater at a bargain price. :laugh:
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#12
suraswami
When does the price cut become effective?
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#13
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
That makes me getting the 9950 even a lot better. WOOH
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#14
Kei
WOWZERS! I was gonna leave the 9950BE alone as I've already got the 9850BE but at this price I'll buy one just to test it out and have some fun! These prices are amazing for what you get, it would be nice to see the Tri cores just a few dollars lower (not the $104 one as that's already golden) but it's close enough anyway.

The prices on the Quads are just awesome though.

PP Mquire, the Tri-core (Toliman X3) processors are X4 processors with one core disabled not a built from scratch Tri-core model.

K

Btw, I'm surprised they squeezed out the X2 6500 as well :twitch: Good job AMD!
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#15
blueskynis
Kei said:
...snip...

Btw, I'm surprised they squeezed out the X2 6500 as well :twitch: Good job AMD!
Yea, that surprised me as well... :)
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#16
X1REME
L@@k these prices are coming down as expected and is nothing to be excited about as we all know AMD will launch the new cpu`s shanghai/deneb in the 2nd half (end of November/December). amd will cut prices as Intel has recently but amd offerings look sweet where as Intel`s now look sour (low/middle range).

AMD has already stated shipping to Taiwan (recently) motherboard makers, compared to Intel 3 weeks ago. so they will have motherboards out in time for Xmas/back to school period, otherwise they miss out on the biggest money maker of the year. funny how amd left it to the last moment, maybe to see if Intel has anything else they have not told everyone about
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#17
Ju1i@~
DDR2 800 combined with 5050e

According to this article from TweakTown, because of a divider based setup on the CPU speed, the built-in memory controller in Athlon X2 4850e processors can't handle DDR2 800 memories at full speed. They can work at a speed of max. 712 MHz. What can be the max speed we can expect from the 5050e mem controller? I calculated as 740 MHz.
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#18
Wile E
Power User
Ju1i@~ said:
According to this article from TweakTown, because of a divider based setup on the CPU speed, the built-in memory controller in Athlon X2 4850e processors can't handle DDR2 800 memories at full speed. They can work at a speed of max. 712 MHz. What can be the max speed we can expect from the 5050e mem controller? I calculated as 740 MHz.
They can handle 800Mhz just fine, they just don't run that way by default. Put it on an even multi, or overclock it a touch, and they'll hit 800Mhz no probs.
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#19
Ju1i@~
Wile E said:
They can handle 800Mhz just fine, they just don't run that way by default. Put it on an even multi, or overclock it a touch, and they'll hit 800Mhz no probs.
Thx. Does this issue only affect Athlon ULV types? It's not mentioned for Phenoms.
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#20
Wile E
Power User
Ju1i@~ said:
Thx. Does this issue only affect Athlon ULV types? It's not mentioned for Phenoms.
No, it the same with all AM2 and newer cpus. If it has an odd multi or a half multi, the ram underspeeds a little by default.

TBH, I'm not 100% sure how the mem dividers work on Phenom, but I'm willing to bet it's the same, except that they have 1066MHz support built in as well.
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#21
blueskynis
All Phenom processors, regardless of the CPU frequency, run DDR2 memory at the proper specified frequency.
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#22
xfire
Wile E said:
No, it the same with all AM2 and newer cpus. If it has an odd multi or a half multi, the ram underspeeds a little by default.

TBH, I'm not 100% sure how the mem dividers work on Phenom, but I'm willing to bet it's the same, except that they have 1066MHz support built in as well.
My 4200 has a 10.5 multiplier(200*10.5) so will 800 Mhz be uberclocked on mine?
I read something in about this in a magzine but I didn't quite understand it.
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#23
blueskynis
Sources familiar with the plans of Advanced Micro Devices on Wednesday denied the fact that the company has plans to release dual-core AMD Phenom processors, but said that the chipmaker plans to release dual-core chips based on the K10 micro-architecture under the AMD Athlon X2 brand-name.

Instead of three AMD Phenom X2 chips (as reported on Tuesday), the world’s second largest maker of x86 microprocessors plans to release one AMD Athlon X2 6500 microprocessor based on the K10 micro-architecture in early September. The chip will operate at 2.30GHz, feature 1MB of L2 cache [512KB per core], 2MB L3 cache as well as dual-channel DDR2 memory controller. The new product will have thermal design power of 95W, hence, should be compatible with the vast majority of AM2+ mainboards.
More info: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20080827150154_One_New_Dual_Core_AMD_Athlon_X2_K10_Processor_Is_Planned_for_September_Launch_Say_Sources.html
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#24
Mussels
Moderprator
i know i've seen the odd ram speed bug before on A64 chips with half multis, i dont know WHY it happens but it gives you some odd ram speeds - usually underclocked by a lot, or minorly overclocked.
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#25
blueskynis
Mussels said:
i know i've seen the odd ram speed bug before on A64 chips with half multis, i dont know WHY it happens but it gives you some odd ram speeds - usually underclocked by a lot, or minorly overclocked.
It is not a bug, it is by design.
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