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Core 2 Duo E8700 Gets Listed, Price Displacement Model Stays

May 15th, 2009 04:13 Discuss (52 Comments)

Although Intel made the Core 2 Duo E8700 official as early as in January, the chip showed little or no signs of reaching retail. Even the most popular retailers in US and EU don't offer this chip, and continue to sell the Core 2 Duo E8600 at its target price range of US $250~$270. Chinese retailer PCPop started listing E8700, at a price that displaces E8600: 1750 Yuan (US $256). While the store doesn't list E8600 so we could tell to which extant it is displaced, its nearest neighbour E8500 is priced at 1210 Yuan ($177), showing that the displacement may affect the price of E8600 to a greater extent than it would to its lower models, as E8500 remains at its common price. The E8700 is clocked at 3.50 GHz, with an FSB speed of 1333 MHz, and a bus multiplier of 10.5x. Despite its high clock speed, the processor continues to come with a rated TDP of 65W.

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52 Comments on Core 2 Duo E8700 Gets Listed, Price Displacement Model Stays

#26

infrared

I'll admit socket 775 stuff has been around for a long time, but I don't plan on upgrading my E8400 any time soon. :D

Clocked to 4.5GHz (563x8) 24/7... No game will max this processor for some time to come.

Obsolete?! Hell no!

#27

alexp999

Staff

snakeoilbeating a dead horse
forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25826&stc=1&d=1242408245

intel is beating a dead horse, core 2 is an old architecture that cannot be further improved
and is beginning to retire it.

Intel Core 2 Era Comes to the End: Intel Discontinues X48 Mainboard.
www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20090512171231_Intel_Core_2_Era_Comes_to_the_End_Intel_Discontinues_X48_Mainboard.html

That link is to an article about Intel discontinuing the DX48BT2, it says nothing (other than speculation) about Intel Discontinuing the X48 chipset, or in fact any of Intel's other LGA 775 motherboards or chipsets.

Please dont come into a thread and start flamebaiting or making things personal with other members. Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, you have made yours, you don't need to repeat yourself :)

#28

a_ump

i wish they'd quit playing around and just release the E9000 @ 4ghz :P. yea i see this chip only benefitting those that are building new budget pc's as it'll hopefully lower current intel CPU prices some. And of course it should help those enthusiasts set new oc records :cool:

#29

phanbuey

infraredI'll admit socket 775 stuff has been around for a long time, but I don't plan on upgrading my E8400 any time soon. :D

Clocked to 4.5GHz (563x8) 24/7... No game will max this processor for some time to come.

Obsolete?! Hell no!

563 FSB :eek: daaaaaaaaaaammm

#30

Triton.se

a_umpi wish they'd quit playing around and just release the E9000 @ 4ghz :P. yea i see this chip only benefitting those that are building new budget pc's as it'll hopefully lower current intel CPU prices some. And of course it should help those enthusiasts set new oc records :cool:

4GHz dual core would do nothing in GTA4...thats a reason ppl need quads..or not, that was a port...grrrrr

#31

infrared

phanbuey563 FSB :eek: daaaaaaaaaaammm

:laugh: :toast:

Got a bit more fsb headroom, 575 is the highest i've had it stable, but needs a lot more volts to the NB. I'm only at 1.4v vmch for this, linpack stable!

#32

[I.R.A]_FBi

snakeoilbeating a dead horse
forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25826&stc=1&d=1242408245

intel is beating a dead horse, core 2 is an old architecture that cannot be further improved
and is beginning to retire it.

Intel Core 2 Era Comes to the End: Intel Discontinues X48 Mainboard.
www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20090512171231_Intel_Core_2_Era_Comes_to_the_End_Intel_Discontinues_X48_Mainboard.html

It really says somethign when a dead horse whips the thorobreds :)of other competitors

#33

alexp999

Staff

infrared:laugh: :toast:

Got a bit more fsb headroom, 575 is the highest i've had it stable, but needs a lot more volts to the NB. I'm only at 1.4v vmch for this, linpack stable!

Make it to 600 FSB and you'll have the same bandwidth as the i7's QPI! :rockout:

#34

a_ump

alexp999Make it to 600 FSB and you'll have the same bandwidth as the i7's QPI! :rockout:

really? lol how is that calculated?

#35

alexp999

Staff

a_umpreally? lol how is that calculated?

400 FSB is about 12.8 GB/s, and the i7's do 19.2 GB/s, while the i7 extreme does 25.6 GB/s.

So to match the normal i7s you need 600 FSB!

And to match the extreme edition its 800 FSB!

#36

infrared

Cool, that's some interesting info.

I wander if i can get to 600mhz fsb... Nooo, don't tempt me, I know where this leads!

#37

dalekdukesboy

If i am a fanboi to any company its AMD and i am sitting here telling you that the intel chips perform better in just about every little thing you can think of.[/QUOTE]

Only one question...why buy amd then? Fanboism is worth the price of "worser" performance in "every little thing you can think of?" Not trying to be an ass, honestly just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me though I agree with all of what you say considering it's true in just about any test you compare the two at...

infraredCool, thanks for info! 600FSB OR BUST!! lol :D

Then I really don't need i7 then...been there done that, literally 12 fsb shy of it now with 24/7 stability with this mobo...However I'd love to trade in my e8600 for an E8700 and hit 600 at a higher multi:)

#38

a_ump

alexp999400 FSB is about 12.8 GB/s, and the i7's do 19.2 GB/s, while the i7 extreme does 25.6 GB/s.

So to match the normal i7s you need 600 FSB!

And to match the extreme edition its 800 FSB!

dam, that's interesting. PUSH FOR 600FSB!!!!! :laugh:

#39

sneekypeet

Retired Super Moderator

infraredCool, that's some interesting info.

I wander if i can get to 600mhz fsb... Nooo, don't tempt me, I know where this leads!

I seem to remember a thread you started talking about the size of your minerals when it came to de-lidding your 8800. Did they shrivel since then?

J/K But Ill sell ya a foxconn if you blow it up trying:roll:

#40

Wile E

Power User

snakeoilwell if you understand the old architecture you are using you know the front side bus is a gigantic bottleneck thats why when you stress your sistem is not as responsive as an amd system with hypertransport, thats why core i7 copied hypertransport and calls it QPI
if the cpu cant communicate with the rest of the components of the system the system suffers and so does your overall experience.

FSB is not a bottleneck with a dual core on a desktop computer. It has more than enough bandwidth for 2 cores. It usually has enough bandwidth for 4 cores, so long as the bus is clocked high enough (around 400Mhz or so). It only becomes a bottleneck past that.

#41

DOM

600fsb is no where close to i7 when you clock the mem on i7

this is my 625fsb on ddr2

#42

infrared

sneekypeetI seem to remember a thread you started talking about the size of your minerals when it came to de-lidding your 8800. Did they shrivel since then?

J/K But Ill sell ya a foxconn if you blow it up trying:roll:

I did it!!! wooooooooo... didn't think this board could!

I'm hot on yer heels DOM!

#43

SystemViper

DOM600fsb is no where close to i7 when you clock the mem on i7

this is my 625fsb on ddr2

img.techpowerup.org/090426/cachemem.png

DOM, love your work, have been planning some real benching for this coming week and
have been reading up on [H] and the points system.
I have to say i saw your profile and it's TOP NOTCH.
you have dome some good stuff, i'm impressed :respect:

#44

Duncan1

Hmmmm....It seems that google just caught something....:rolleyes:

#45

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

nice catch duncan.

#46

hat

Enthusiast

C'mon they're probably just rebranding old stock. I doubt there was any real innovation here.

#47

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

hatC'mon they're probably just rebranding old stock. I doubt there was any real innovation here.

higher multi.

Regular consumers dont OC, so its the fastest dual available to them, and it will make OCing easier. Odds are its a newer stepping as well.

#48

hat

Enthusiast

What's the higher multi got to do with anything? As I said it's probably just old stock they're using, programming it to run with a 10.5 multi instead of a 10.0 multi. And yes it is probably a newer stepping since they're using newer stock.

#49

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

my point is that while it may not be anything fancy or exciting, its a newer, higher clocked chip with better OC potential.

Over time we get better chips for the same price. its progress, not innovation.

#50

Duncan1

Just got informed from a friendly greek forum that the first E8700 ES CPUs just hit the ''black market''. The retail ones are excepted on mid-June...:toast:

Duncan1

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