Rammsteiner
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Slight correction, the most right president the French chose is Sarkozy. Also I didnt hear anything negative about Sarkozy, at least not something that really matters.The most "right" politician you europeans elected in the last 30 years is the new french president, Nicolas Sarkozy. Most (MOST!) europeans outside of france think the guy is a right wing nutcase, from my reading. Only the UK seems to like the guy much.
Also if Pim Fortuijn didnt get killed by some nice activist, he might have become the president of The Netherlands. He was pretty right yet not nationalistic.
Also, it's hard to get right winged governments. There was a slight lack off it after the 2nd WW (why I dont know, Nazi's actually were still left winged but they call it right winged). Left winged parties and/or central parties were chosen all the time. Right winged people got fed up with it, children of them go nuts over it + nowadays fuck ups from foreign people and go extremist which at the same time shows to most voters right wing is still bad.
Also, from Blair's past, I think it isnt worth a crap what UK/UK politics like since he liked Bush as well.
Yes I got that the first time, yet 50% of earlier named things from me are NOT the past but current. So while you disapprove Obama's choise of taxes because it would be unfair or stealing, your current government and McCain would continue to do the exact same thing. Not to American people, but to the rest of the world.And I did not at any one time say I approved of those things in the past. What I am saying and I will repeat is that it is unethical and immoral to initiate force against another to take what he has for the benefit of another. If a person on the street does it, it's robbery. So why should it be ok for a government to do it?
Well, I think I pretty much explained it in one sentence already. Succes depends on what point of view. Although I'd love to have 10mil Euro's, you can still live royally from 20K Euro/year earnings from work, so what does this 10M Euro buffer add to my succes?Ok, so you want to debate the semantics of the word Successful instead of the actual facts of my statement?
No of course the other guy does not have the right to go whine for your money, I never said that and Im against that.If a person has more money than someone else, he could be considered more successful (at accruing the basic tenants of life, liberty, and property...). Just because I have 3 big screen tv's in my house does not entitle another person to whine to the government for some of my money.
Well, that's true. But then again such people generally dont get a lot of support anyway ( if the choice for the 3 babies and to drop out of school was really her free choice that is).If you make stupid choices (drop out of school and have 3 babies before your 21 by 3 different men, for example) then you deserve what you got - you made your choice and the choice to give you something is mine only, not the g*d* governments.
That's very true. But although I love drugs, people using it cant only hurt them selves but also others. That's why it's forbidden as well.I'm a very "constitutional libertarian", so belive me voting for McCain, well, disturbs my stomach. But you vote for the person closest to your beliefs, and in this case, a 2 trillion dollar difference in tax policy over 5 years? Yeah, that's closer to my belief.
Let me give you one further example. I personally believe that in the USA the "war on drugs" is simply a major assault on individual liberty. BUT if you choose to do drugs, and it ruins your health, then tough shit. You have no right to my earnings.
Ive said it lots of times in RL especially, humanity is not made for liberty/freedom. I think the most perfect way would be as in Brave New World, but it's impossible to get that going in anyway. It sounds damn awefull at some points, but just because the people dont know better no one knows how it would be different.
It's not the point who said that Democrats and Socialists were the same, some people here said Obama is a socialist, meaning people have no clue what socialism is about.who said a Democrat and a Socialist were the same. Obama calls himself a Democrat but his politicizes are Socialist, you can call wrap yourself in any title you want , but to quote Obama a pig wearing lipstick is still a pig. Acorn is a self proclaimed leftist group by it's founder the first community organizer,Saul Alinsky, who used extreme agitation to gain political notice to his causes. Obama actually was an instructor who taught this theory to members of Acorn. Which fronts as a group who helps the poor but as we know it engages in and has been convicted multiple times for voter fraud. Example the registered one guy to vote in 4 different counties. They are going around Ohio and gathering mentally ill and homeless people to vote early in Ohio for Obama. There are alligations they are paying them and other violations already.
Also I think there's not a lot of right to crap over ACORN, as far it's true in the first place, since our lovely Bush didnt get in his office very clean. Also Palin forms actually quite some danger with her extremist God stuff. I dont see a lot of differences between her and general Middle East religious leaders