Who'll be the better president?

imperialreign · Nov 5, 2008

Wile E said:
I just hope for the best in the next 4 years. I have my serious doubts, but everybody gets a fair shot in my book.

I tend to agree with this sentiment . . . but something about Bush back in 2000 just wasn't right . . .

and I think SNL put it best into perspective with the ever famous word "strategery."

But, I didn't vote for Bush then, nor in 2004, so I have every right to say he was a dumbass from the get-go.

Bigjohn · Nov 5, 2008

Wile E said:
PA and FL are at 94 and 92% counted. OH is at 64%

typically those are only "today" votes. early voting and absentee have to be added in, after they're validated. You have to toss an absentee ballot, for example, if there is a vote registered on the machine "today"..... It's a complicated process, I must say.

In at least a dozen precincts in PA, they forced the republican poll judges out of the precincts... I wonder how that will ride? Did that brain dead Murtha win his seat again, after calling his constituency "readneck racists"? If so, hell, I'd call bullshit on the whole state vote tabulation - after all, it was in PA during the last election that voting machines were turning up with 2000 votes for Kerry == before the polls even opened.

Am I in denial? Yes... I can't believe my fellow citizens are actually this stupid. :banghead:

das müffin mann · Nov 5, 2008

i wouldn't call people stupid just because they didn't share your point of view

GLD · Nov 5, 2008

Fork ME, 3rd time I fell like pukeing.

pepsi71ocean · Nov 5, 2008

Im finally done moving my money to Swiss Bank Accounts, lol

And i won my bet, although i betted against my selection for president.

Lol, i have puked a few times, but i am not drunk. and i think my tollerance for alcohol is really high at this point

Bigjohn · Nov 5, 2008

das müffin mann said:
i wouldn't call people stupid just because they didn't share your point of view

You're right.
Ignorant is a better term - you can fix ignorance through education. You can't fix stupid. :nutkick:

farlex85 · Nov 5, 2008

Bigjohn said:
typically those are only "today" votes. early voting and absentee have to be added in, after they're validated. You have to toss an absentee ballot, for example, if there is a vote registered on the machine "today"..... It's a complicated process, I must say.

In at least a dozen precincts in PA, they forced the republican poll judges out of the precincts... I wonder how that will ride? Did that brain dead Murtha win his seat again, after calling his constituency "readneck racists"? If so, hell, I'd call bullshit on the whole state vote tabulation - after all, it was in PA during the last election that voting machines were turning up with 2000 votes for Kerry == before the polls even opened.

Am I in denial? Yes... I can't believe my fellow citizens are actually this stupid.

Those who vote democrat are stupid? You started out this thread effective, but have come to seem extremely closed minded and repetitive. You have your beliefs and others have theirs. They may be short-sighted, perhaps unable to clearly see the future, but to call them stupid is ignorance in it's ugliest form.

Wile E · Nov 5, 2008

Bigjohn said:
typically those are only "today" votes. early voting and absentee have to be added in, after they're validated. You have to toss an absentee ballot, for example, if there is a vote registered on the machine "today"..... It's a complicated process, I must say.

In at least a dozen precincts in PA, they forced the republican poll judges out of the precincts... I wonder how that will ride? Did that brain dead Murtha win his seat again, after calling his constituency "readneck racists"? If so, hell, I'd call bullshit on the whole state vote tabulation - after all, it was in PA during the last election that voting machines were turning up with 2000 votes for Kerry == before the polls even opened.

Am I in denial? Yes... I can't believe my fellow citizens are actually this stupid.

I'm from PA. Trust me, it's going to Obama. It would've gone to any democrat running. PA has more straight-ticket, brainless, drone voters than any other state I've been in.

Polaris573 · Nov 5, 2008

No Flaming! No Name Calling!

EastCoasthandle · Nov 5, 2008

From what I can see over 97 million people voted in this country. This is out standing!

das müffin mann · Nov 5, 2008

Bigjohn said:
You're right.
Ignorant is a better term - you can fix ignorance through education. You can't fix stupid.

seriously dude
STFU
you are just as ignorant as those that you claim are, once again don't call people ignorant, stupid, close minded, or what ever you want to call the people that voted dem.

GLD · Nov 5, 2008

Polaris573 said:
No Flaming! No Name Calling!

I think the flames are at pepsi71oceans neighbors. :eek:

Wile E · Nov 5, 2008

Polaris573 said:
No Flaming! No Name Calling!

Did I miss something, Polaris?

niko084 · Nov 5, 2008

Bigjohn said:
You're right.
Ignorant is a better term - you can fix ignorance through education. You can't fix stupid.

There is a big difference between ignorant and naive voters vs voters that don't agree with you.

I find you to be naive and ignorant to think you know whats best over anyone else in this country.
So why don't you go ahead with every other person that feels this way on either side and fix our government and get a noble peace prize.

Lets try to at least keep things civilized so we don't look like a bunch of jack monkeys again.

GLD · Nov 5, 2008

Webesters says: ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness.

Polaris573 · Nov 5, 2008

Wile E said:
Did I miss something, Polaris?

Bigjohn calling his fellow citizens stupid for voting for obama. Heading it off before a riot ensues.

das müffin mann · Nov 5, 2008

fixed

GLD said:
Websters says: ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness. or disagrees with BigJohn

erocker · Nov 5, 2008

It's spelled Webster's.

imperialreign · Nov 5, 2008

Wile E said:
I'm from PA. Trust me, it's going to Obama. It would've gone to any democrat running. PA has more straight-ticket, brainless, drone voters than any other state I've been in.

ever visited Virginia?

there's a reason some of us refer to it as the Communist-Wealth of Virginia . . .

. . .

. . . waitaminnut!! :twitch:

PA is a Communist-Wealth, too!

In that case, VA and PA are probably on par with each other.

PaulieG · Nov 5, 2008

The one positive thing I'll take out of this election is despite it getting nasty at times, I truly believe that both McCain and Obama were running for the right reasons, and honestly want the best for the USA....without it just being rhetoric.

phanbuey · Nov 5, 2008

there will always be whiners, I'm just so glad i heard a coherent speech from a president elect... that hasn't happened in 8 years. Also, thank you Palin

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niko084 · Nov 5, 2008

Wile E said:
I'm from PA. Trust me, it's going to Obama. It would've gone to any democrat running. PA has more straight-ticket, brainless, drone voters than any other state I've been in.

That I find really sad..... My grandparents on each side are exactly that way... Mothers side votes ALL Democrat no matter what, fathers side ALL Republican no matter what...

There is a reason I don't get into discussing politics with them.... A completely useless conversation. :ohwell:

AphexDreamer · Nov 5, 2008

Obama FTW!! Thank You and Good Bye...

GLD · Nov 5, 2008

erocker said:
It's spelled Webster's.

ignorant : GLD

das müffin mann · Nov 5, 2008

same with my older relatives
but at least their passionate

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Who'll be the better president?

Who'll be the better president?

Barack Obama

John McCain

But I want George W. Bush

Don't care

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