GPU Recommendation PLEASE

sprayall · Dec 31, 2008

ORDERED--HAVE QUESTIONS--GPU Recommendation PLEASE

I'm not wanting to buy a top end card, just something to "balance" out my system. I think if I had a decent card I would be very satisfied with FSX performance. This system actually seems to do ok compared to other's results that I've read about. I'm not quite sure about compatibility and I don't want to pay for something that will just be held back by the rest of the system. Thanks in advance, everyone, for your abundant knowledge and help.

There's too many choices out there. So, a couple of questions to start with. Can you guys please check out these cards? And, my board supports PCI Express 1.0. What happens when I put a PCI Express 2.0 card in? Does the 8800gt outperform the 9800gt and, if it does, why? Are there any builders I should stay away from (PNY, KFA2, MSI, etc.)?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133205

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3763161&CatId=1558

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4252544&CatId=3669

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127387

MRCL · Dec 31, 2008

Lol never heard of KFA2

But the 4670 I heard and saw does a pretty darn good job. I'd take that one, or the 8800.

kenkickr · Dec 31, 2008

My friends system I built for him is almost like yours but you have 1Gb more than he does. I've seen him play FSX without issues using a HD3870. I'm not sure how the 4670 would handle FSX with it's 128-bit ring bus but the 8800GT/9800GT is a little better than a 3870 so it should have no problems playing FSX with some details. My other recommendation would be to go for a HD4850 since the price on them is pretty reasonable and kind of give you that future proof for awhile.

r9 · Dec 31, 2008

Performance vise
4670=9600GSO 384 < 9600GT <8800GT<=(depending of the clocs and 9800GT should use 55nm G92) 9800GT
And for brand go for MSI.
So if I was you with no doubt in my mind I would get MSI 9800GT this seccond.

JrRacinFan · Dec 31, 2008

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121289

Or if you dont mind open box:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121289R

Gilletter · Dec 31, 2008

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._-DesktopGraphicsVideoCards-_-LB6D-_-14102770 with promo code EMCBCDABJ gets you down to $129.99, not bad and only a little bit more than what you're looking at now :toast:

ShadowFold · Dec 31, 2008

JrRacinFan said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121289

Or if you dont mind open box:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121289R

Gilletter said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._-DesktopGraphicsVideoCards-_-LB6D-_-14102770 with promo code EMCBCDABJ gets you down to $129.99, not bad and only a little bit more than what you're looking at now

Both good suggestions.. Can't go wrong with a 4800 man :rockout:

3870x2 · Dec 31, 2008

grab a 4830, or go with the 9800GT. There should be some 4850s on sale here for pretty cheap.

newtekie1 · Dec 31, 2008

I would look into the 4830 for $110($90 after Mail-In).

It should complement your system nicely.

spearman914 · Dec 31, 2008

I'll recommend u this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161260 If u oc it, it'll beat everyone of the cards u listed above. At stock this card is pretty good anyway.

CJCerny · Dec 31, 2008

Yeah...if you can get a 4830 for under $100 after rebate, that's definitely the best bang for the buck. A 4830 is pretty much even with the 9800GT.

spearman914 · Dec 31, 2008

CJCerny said:
Yeah...if you can get a 4830 for under $100 after rebate, that's definitely the best bang for the buck. A 4830 is pretty much even with the 9800GT.

OC it, beats the 9800GTX, oc it further by volt modding, beats the 9800GTX+!!!

HolyCow02 · Dec 31, 2008

Bang for buck is easily the 4830 plain and simple

dieselcat18 · Jan 1, 2009

If you like the 9800GT....it's to bad this card version is no longer available.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121266

And this one was even better with 128 stream processors....

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...00-gt-roundup-evga-asus-gigabyte-palit-7.html

But you can't go with any of the ATi 4000 series that have been mentioned.

*+

spearman914 · Jan 1, 2009

dieselcat18 said:
If you like the 9800GT....it's to bad this card version is no longer available.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121266

And this one was even better with 128 stream processors....

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...00-gt-roundup-evga-asus-gigabyte-palit-7.html

But you can't go with any of the ATi 4000 series that have been mentioned.

*+

Seems like ur a nvidia fan boy. ATI 4000 pwns...

mlee49 · Jan 1, 2009

4830 all day long. Nvidia suggestion 8800 GT for budget, 9800 equals the 4830.

Edit, you can put a PCI-E 2.0 card in a 1.0 slot with no problems. That's called backwards compatible.

kysg · Jan 1, 2009

Hey I'll put this in lamens terms

Get ati 4830, its basically a detuned 4850, you can't go wrong for 100 bucks...
if your broke 4670, no other options,

nvidia side its the 9800GT which gets beat my 4830 if Oc'd, then 9800GTX and GTX+ but the money is kinda out there.

spearman914 · Jan 1, 2009

kysg said:
Hey I'll put this in lamens terms

Get ati 4830, its basically a detuned 4850, you can't go wrong for 100 bucks...
if your broke 4670, no other options,

nvidia side its the 9800GT which gets beat my 4830 if Oc'd, then 9800GTX and GTX+ but the money is kinda out there.

See my link above. Found a 4830 for 87 bucks!!!

kysg · Jan 1, 2009

spearman914 said:
See my link above. Found a 4830 for 87 bucks!!!

+1 to that.

HossHuge · Jan 1, 2009

a 4830 is really the best deal on the planet now. In my unbiased view.

LittleLizard · Jan 1, 2009

4830, no way be wrong with that one

sprayall · Jan 1, 2009

Ordered the 4830-Thanks Guys

Thanks newtekie1 and spearman914 for the good find on the 4830!!!!-killer deal. Also bought the 750W PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011

I was wondering about the backwards compatibility (the card being PCI-E 2.0) I'm not losing any performance because the slot is 1.0 am I? Also, any tips for installing card and PS? Anything I should read up on while it's being shipped? I will be asking about oc'ing after I get it installed and running normally. Thanks again for all the suggestions. I would have been completely lost without them-too many cards to choose from.

LittleLizard · Jan 1, 2009

sprayall said:
Thanks newtekie1 and spearman914 for the good find on the 4830!!!!-killer deal. Also bought the 750W PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011

I was wondering about the backwards compatibility (the card being PCI-E 2.0) I'm not losing any performance because the slot is 1.0 am I? Also, any tips for installing card and PS? Anything I should read up on while it's being shipped? I will be asking about oc'ing after I get it installed and running normally. Thanks again for all the suggestions. I would have been completely lost without them-too many cards to choose from.

as long as you have the full 16 lanes there shoulnt be any performance decrease.
If u are going to oc it then cool it properly as the 48xx series are hot

EDIT: very good psu u choose. i love the color and is pc power & cooling, Ultimate brand

mlee49 · Jan 1, 2009

sprayall said:
Thanks newtekie1 and spearman914 for the good find on the 4830!!!!-killer deal. Also bought the 750W PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011

I was wondering about the backwards compatibility (the card being PCI-E 2.0) I'm not losing any performance because the slot is 1.0 am I? Also, any tips for installing card and PS? Anything I should read up on while it's being shipped? I will be asking about oc'ing after I get it installed and running normally. Thanks again for all the suggestions. I would have been completely lost without them-too many cards to choose from.

you wont lose any preformance by using a 2.0 card in a 1.0 slot. Its not taking advantage of the 2.0 lane so your really missing out on performance.

Read about how to overclock your card. Google 4830 overclock and maybe get familiar with your company as well. Registering your new card will be important so check that out.
Its a great card so enjoy it, benchmark it, and game with it! :toast:

dieselcat18 · Jan 1, 2009

spearman914 said:
Seems like ur a nvidia fan boy. ATI 4000 pwns...

How did you figure that ?....A pretty silly comment if you took the time and looked at my system specs, then realized I was responding to the OP'ers question about giving a recommendation on several graphics cards he had selected. One of which was a 9800GT, which reminded me of that special card and the review of it. That card has since been discontinued, but I still thought it was worth mentioning in addition to recommending the 4000 series cards, many of which had already been listed in previous posts and didn't feel the need to repeat over again....... :confused:

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GPU Recommendation PLEASE

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