ATI Still the best choice for performance per dollar

[Hayder_Master]

i see this review today and i see the ati still best chose for performance pair dollar in any price range now in January 2009 you can make sure here
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-radeon,2151.html

 

[hat]

"This new card is between a pair of GeForce GTX 280 and 260 cards in SLI on a single board."

lol

The GTX295 is a GTX260 sandwich, not a GTX280 and GTX260 sandwich

on second thought it appears to be two GTX280s but with 896MB memory (448 memory bus). It appears to be a whole nother animal alltogeather. The memory size and bus width of two GTX260s, but the shader count of two GTX280s.

I don't know what the hell it is... but it's not a GTX280 and a GTX260 in SLI, that would never work

 

[ShadowFold]

My HD 4830 is the best card for under 100$ no doubt. I am playing all my games at max settings with 8x AA.

 

[MRCL]

If this is good for AMD is another thing...

 

[BrooksyX]

My HD 4830 is the best card for under 100$ no doubt. I am playing all my games at max settings with 8x AA.

I sure hope I get the same good experience as you. I have a msi 4830 that is supposed to come on thursday. If all goes well I am just gonna stick with that and then sell my 4870 when it comes back from RMA.

 

[ShadowFold]

I sure hope I get the same good experience as you. I have a msi 4830 that is supposed to come on thursday. If all goes well I am just gonna stick with that and then sell my 4870 when it comes back from RMA.

You have a quad core so I would imagine it would be even better!

 

[eidairaman1]

I sure hope I get the same good experience as you. I have a msi 4830 that is supposed to come on thursday. If all goes well I am just gonna stick with that and then sell my 4870 when it comes back from RMA.

may i ask who you RMAd thru, the etailer or the manufacturer, because i think boards that come from manufacturer are known to be good compared to what happens at etailers warehouses.

 

[BrooksyX]

may i ask who you RMAd thru, the etailer or the manufacturer, because i think boards that come from manufacturer are known to be good compared to what happens at etailers warehouses.

I RMAed it through Lexy Pacific. Its a third party company that HIS tech uses to rma items in the US. So the manufacturer.

 

[eidairaman1]

ya i did that with a 1950 Pro i killed mistakingly, just to ask how long did it take for HIS to reply to your RMA Request email, because it took them over a week back in 2007, Sapphire on other hand I had no problems with.

 

[BrooksyX]

ya i did that with a 1950 Pro i killed mistakingly, just to ask how long did it take for HIS to reply to your RMA Request email, because it took them over a week back in 2007, Sapphire on other hand I had no problems with.

It took HIS like 3 days to reply. Then I had to go back and fourth with them a few times. So after about a week and a half of emailing HIS they directed me to Lexy Pacific. Then it probably Lexy Pacific a week to finally email me an RMA number. They recieved my card on Jan 28th and I am still waiting on my card to get back from RMA.

 

[eidairaman1]

It took HIS like 3 days to reply. Then I had to go back and fourth with them a few times. So after about a week and a half of emailing HIS they directed me to Lexy Pacific. Then it probably Lexy Pacific a week to finally email me an RMA number. They recieved my card on Jan 28th and I am still waiting on my card to get back from RMA.

yup, because it has to Go to Hong Kong.

Id like to order directly from the Manufacturer than the Etailer if possible.

but ya it seems they have gotten better slightly, but to me sapphire Responded very quickly thats why they are Rated a Little Higher for me.

 

[BrooksyX]

I think in the future I am going to stick with MSI or Visiontek Ati products. Have delt with both of their RMA dept. and they were very speedy. Nothing against HIS products, its just I can't stand waiting so long.

 

[eidairaman1]

I think in the future I am going to stick with MSI or Visiontek Ati products. Have delt with both of their RMA dept. and they were very speedy. Nothing against HIS products, its just I can't stand waiting so long.

Plus Visiontek is sold widely in Computer/Electronic Stores, basically meaning you can go up to like bestbuy and get it immediately than having to jack around with Parcel services.

 

[Hayder_Master]

also i see good drop price for saphhire 4850x2 in newegg only 235
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102813
so there is no troll this is best single card and and if anyone say something about gtx295 i want tell him put 2x4850x2 and tell me what you feel

 

[nafets]

"This new card is between a pair of GeForce GTX 280 and 260 cards in SLI on a single board."

lol

The GTX295 is a GTX260 sandwich, not a GTX280 and GTX260 sandwich

on second thought it appears to be two GTX280s but with 896MB memory (448 memory bus). It appears to be a whole nother animal alltogeather. The memory size and bus width of two GTX260s, but the shader count of two GTX280s.

I don't know what the hell it is... but it's not a GTX280 and a GTX260 in SLI, that would never work

The wording at Tom's Hardware could be better.

What they meant to say about the GTX 295 was: "This new card's performance falls in between a GTX 280 SLI setup and a GTX 260 SLI setup, all the while being on a single board."

Regarding the "Best Graphics Card For The Money" guides that are released on a monthly basis at Tom's Hardware, I believe they are an excellent source of decent information, for the semi-informed buyer. But whatever they say in there isn't the "be all, end all" of video card buying, and I certainly wouldn't base my next video card purchase only on what they deem to be the best performing video card for the dollar, in whatever price range I'm looking for. It's merely a stable source of advice, which when used along with the numerous and various video card reviews on the web, will help the prospective buyer in making the best choice possible for their next video card...

Regarding the HD4850X2, it's surely a great price/performance winner, but if you value your hearing and case temperatures, you won't waste your time with it. There's obviously trade-offs that come with the cheap price. But if you can live with them, you'll get much more performance-wise than with any other card at that price point.

And two HD4850X2's vs. one GTX 295? Are you kidding me? I'd choose the GTX 295 over those two unruly beasts any day, and I'm no current fan of Nvidia. Price be damned, there's no way that two HD4850X2's can be good for any PC system unless you live in igloo and are tone deaf.

But that's just me. Some people obviously will think otherwise...

 

[dieselcat18]

My HD 4830 is the best card for under 100$ no doubt. I am playing all my games at max settings with 8x AA.

I wonder what kind of bang/buck performance a pair of those running in a nice Crossfire system would give you ?....It almost makes more sense to build a PC using more of these budget pieces that perform very well than spending loads of money on costly high-end components.

Although, if I did have loads of cash, I would spend it on lots of costly high-end components......

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[ShadowFold]

I wonder what kind of bang/buck performance a pair of those running in a nice Crossfire system would give you ?....It almost makes more sense to build a PC using more of these budget pieces that perform very well than spending loads of money on costly high-end components.

Although, if I did have loads of cash, I would spend it on lots of costly high-end components......

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I get my second 4830 in the mail tomorrow! I will definitely get my opinions up about them

 

[Aceman.au]

ATI have the best cards... No doubt...

Nvidia are corruptible (driver wise), over priced pieces of S***

To get any "real" performance you have to go SLI... My 4870 out performs a GTX 280 on some resolutions

 

[sweeper]

Nvidia is over priced IMO also. I've been with ATI for quite some time now. Got tired of the price "SHOCK" when looking for NVIDIA cards and I cannot stand the drivers. BLAH! But I'm one in a million so ......... ?

 

[dieselcat18]

I get my second 4830 in the mail tomorrow! I will definitely get my opinions up about them

It will be really interesting....looking forward to hearing how it runs...

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[hat]

ATI have the best cards... No doubt...

Nvidia are corruptible (driver wise), over priced pieces of S***

To get any "real" performance you have to go SLI... My 4870 out performs a GTX 280 on some resolutions

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My 9800gt crushes everything I throw at it just fine, except S.T.A.L.K.E.R. with AA forced through the control panel and Dynamic Lighting on at the same time. Yes, it CAN max crysis. I get a good 20 fps at the lowest. In the crysis benchmark utility with everything maxed out I got 36 fps

 

[Artas1984]

Hands down, HD4000 series own GTX200 per FPS/MONEY.

HD4870 Diamond 1 GB even beats GTX 280 in some games, what an nvidia joke.

 

[Aceman.au]

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My 9800gt crushes everything I throw at it just fine, except S.T.A.L.K.E.R. with AA forced through the control panel and Dynamic Lighting on at the same time. Yes, it CAN max crysis. I get a good 20 fps at the lowest. In the crysis benchmark utility with everything maxed out I got 36 fps

Try taking your 9800 back to original clocks and see what hapens... Cause it looks like it has ben overclocked...

Nvidia clocks are hilarious... They are always lower than ATI's
GTX 295:

Core clock: 576MHZ x 2
Memory Clock: 1000MHZ

Palit 4870 1GB

Core Clock: 775MHZ
Memory Clock: 4000MHZ

Its seriously stupid... But of course the GTX 295 wins in other areas, but if ATI can do those clocks, cant Nvidia???

 

[newtekie1]

The best card for the money varies almost daily anymore as prices fluctuate, and some areas of the world have prices that favor one brand over the other.

 

[phanbuey]

lol my 260's run at ATI 4870/X2 clocks... and they whoop its azz at those.

This is a liable flame thread. Performance/money always goes to the best OCing components most articles don't take that into account... in which case i would say 4830 1GB. 4870 and 280/285 are recockulously overpriced.

The 65NM 260 216 can OC past a 280 stock performance so that may be in the running too as you can find it for under $200 AR.