Is thermal paste absolutely necessary?

ZenZimZaliben · Apr 6, 2009

Where do you live? Wouldn't the easier answer be, just go buy some at a store? I mean assuming you don't live in BF Eygpt you should have access to an electronics store. With all the times you posted I am sure you could have made it to the store and back...again assuming you aren't in BFE.

Even if veg oil, or Spit for that matter, sorta works, it is not the correct way...Don't do it 1/2 assed.

Why not do it 100% assed instead of 1/2 assed.

Drink/eat:
1 cup of mineral oil, 4 slices greesy pizza, 2 tbs Silicon and 2 tbs Aluminium shavings. Wait 4 hours, take a crap, BAM!! Instant Thermal Paste.

kiriakost · Apr 6, 2009

Ok one last post about the ignorant thing , and i am out ... i have to wake up at six , so to get at my work.

There is better ways , to help some one with a wrong point of view , than slamming his face, as newtekie1 did .

And i reacted on that because he does that all the time . Yes he does that , and its wrong .

Some one truly knowledgeable , never wastes time in dogfights , with exception the worthwhile ones , and this one its not one of them.

Goodnight ..

MilkyWay · Apr 6, 2009

without proper thermal paste or thermal grease there will be a thin layer of air between the cpu and heatsink meaning that the heat wont transfere properly from the cpu to heatsink because it will transfere to the air instead of the heatsink, you want to it rapidly go from the cpu and the air will stop that even a thin layer

you want something that can conduct heat well but last and wont dry up

infrared · Apr 7, 2009

Coolers are for wusses... I ran an old e2160 with just a fan blowing over it. Just underclocked it a bit (1.2GHz, 1.1v) and it worked a treat! Was playing COD4 on it for hours!

DrPepper · Apr 7, 2009

infrared said:
Coolers are for wusses... I ran an old e2160 with just a fan blowing over it. Just underclocked it a bit (1.2GHz, 1.1v) and it worked a treat! Was playing COD4 on it for hours!

its cold enough in scotland for everything to run passive :cool:

I don't even have a cooler and I'm at 3.8ghz :laugh:

infrared · Apr 7, 2009

I meant no heatsink at all lol. Just the cpu in the socket :pimp:

cdawall · Apr 7, 2009

infrared said:
I meant no heatsink at all lol. Just the cpu in the socket

i did that with my phenom II worked like a treat

Random Murderer · Apr 7, 2009

ZenZimZaliben said:
Drink/eat:
1 cup of mineral oil, 4 slices greesy pizza, 2 tbs Silicon and 2 tbs Aluminium shavings. Wait 4 hours, take a crap, BAM!! Instant Thermal Paste.

i lol'd, seriously.

DrPepper · Apr 7, 2009

infrared said:
I meant no heatsink at all lol. Just the cpu in the socket

Thats what I was talking about to :laugh:

WarEagleAU · Apr 7, 2009

Very interesting topic.

SNiiPE_DoGG · Apr 7, 2009

k guys go LOOK at the stock heatsink you can SEE the wax and if you knew anything about the way wax behaves you would know that it cant just be wiped off..... It melts and embeds itself in the micro crevaces of the IHS.

Like I said, dont listen to me if you dont want to.... but I am not saying this because I am making it up lol

zanzabar · Apr 7, 2009

the intel stock paste dose have paraffin over the actual paste and u cant remove it (once used and taken to 40-50c) without heating the cpu to 160c and burning it out (will kill the cpu) or lapping the cpu, the nickle is pores enough so it will get absorbed. if u look at a stock cooler thats unused u can see the wax on it

Dippyskoodlez · Apr 7, 2009

zanzabar said:
the intel stock paste dose have paraffin over the actual paste and u cant remove it (once used and taken to 40-50c) without heating the cpu to 160c and burning it out (will kill the cpu) or lapping the cpu, the nickle is pores enough so it will get absorbed. if u look at a stock cooler thats unused u can see the wax on it

Wax also melts when hot.

As blatently obvious as having a "coat of wax" on your cpu would impair temperatures, I highly doubt that this "wax" is important enough to warrant avoiding stock heatsinks like the plague.

Theres a difference between stating "facts" and what actually matters- for this purpose it will be fine. I doubt this "wax" would impair more than 1C anyways.

Complaining about a negligible coat from the stock heatsink is nitpicking to an extreme.

SNiiPE_DoGG · Apr 7, 2009

Well I never said dont use the stock heatsink

, I mean for users scrape the stock thermal pate off with a razor blade and apply your choice of 3rd party paste.

cdawall · Apr 7, 2009

SNiiPE_DoGG said:
k guys go LOOK at the stock heatsink you can SEE the wax and if you knew anything about the way wax behaves you would know that it cant just be wiped off..... It melts and embeds itself in the micro crevaces of the IHS.

Like I said, dont listen to me if you dont want to.... but I am not saying this because I am making it up lol

SNiiPE_DoGG said:
Well I never said dont use the stock heatsink , I mean for users scrape the stock thermal pate off with a razor blade and apply your choice of 3rd party paste.

its not wax. simple as that stop arguing i have half a dozen intel coolers sitting in my room with the stock paste on them. for one all you see is a 2C difference from the worst to best thermalpaste and intel stuff is in the middle. i have removed stock coolers taken a swab/90% and it comes off just like every other paste.

zanzabar · Apr 7, 2009

Dippyskoodlez said:
Wax also melts when hot.

As blatently obvious as having a "coat of wax" on your cpu would impair temperatures, I highly doubt that this "wax" is important enough to warrant avoiding stock heatsinks like the plague.

Theres a difference between stating "facts" and what actually matters- for this purpose it will be fine. I doubt this "wax" would impair more than 1C anyways.

Complaining about a negligible coat from the stock heatsink is nitpicking to an extreme.

its not to avoid the stock sink its the paste, and if u spend the money for a computer u can spend the $3-6 for paste u can even get AS ceramiq for $4 at radioshack, when the wax isnt heated it can be removed so u just wipe it off and put real paste on

SNiiPE_DoGG · Apr 7, 2009

cdawall said:
its not wax. simple as that stop arguing i have half a dozen intel coolers sitting in my room with the stock paste on them. for one all you see is a 2C difference from the worst to best thermalpaste and intel stuff is in the middle. i have removed stock coolers taken a swab/90% and it comes off just like every other paste.

Oy, do you even get what we are saying? wax is CLEAR you cannot see it when its melted into the IHS :banghead:

Random Murderer · Apr 7, 2009

drop it, guys. this is turning into a flame-fest.

Bokteelo · Apr 7, 2009

Yeah, the MX-2 came with the rest of the stuff today, it actually came earlier today than the hardware did. I decided not to use the MX-2 and save it for the future. I won't be OCing my current computer anyway because I have a locked bios. I'll be giving it away to a relative who has a lot less computer knowledge than me so he won't even think about OCing.

Please stop arguing!

Cold Storm · Apr 7, 2009

I got a email for an engineer from Intel today when I talked to them on the ordeal Tonight.. I've e mailed and am awaiting from them on the "chemicals" that is used in Intel's Pads.. Also, if you want. $3.99 for the same grease that is use for the bottom of the heatsinks.

Source

Also have 3 pdf files of development of TIM if anyone wants them.. Guy thought I wanted to know for a research project how they started it up.. lol

Dippyskoodlez · Apr 7, 2009

SNiiPE_DoGG said:
Oy, do you even get what we are saying? wax is CLEAR you cannot see it when its melted into the IHS

If it's on the heatsink, why bother scraping it off to put paste on? You said you can't scrape it off!

Unless it somehow isnt melted to be stuck to the heatsink?

techbuzz · Apr 7, 2009

I saw a video online a while back where the CPU actually blew out of its socket. Is this possible?

I wonder how hot it would have to get before it would blow?

Dippyskoodlez · Apr 7, 2009

pcgolfer85 said:
I saw a video online a while back where the CPU actually blew out of its socket. Is this possible?

I wonder how hot it would have to get before it would blow?

no.

Cold Storm · Apr 7, 2009

pcgolfer85 said:
I saw a video online a while back where the CPU actually blew out of its socket. Is this possible?

I wonder how hot it would have to get before it would blow?

The guys threw the Volts to the CPU Volts way high.. I think as high as the board would allow it.. It is possible to do so.

techbuzz · Apr 7, 2009

Dippyskoodlez said:
no.

I found the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCD5b2ZEjDM

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