Large Reliable HDD Needed

red268 · Apr 12, 2009

I'm running out of space rapidly on my hard drives due to various new projects, (Media course, not pr0n!!) and I need a big storage drive.

I'm looking for a 1TB drive. Performance isn't a big point, but reliability is, since it'll only really be used for storage. Also, a drive with low power consumption would be a bonus.

I've found this one from Western Digital.
What do you think? Any better ones about? Must be in the UK too.

Thanks

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143288

This one is slightly cheaper.

I've got 3 sammy drives, wouldn't use anything else to be honest. Quiet, reliable, quick.

I've found that WDs tend to be be noisier (however, my last WD drive is about 2 years old)

red268 · Apr 12, 2009

Darknova said:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143288

This one is slightly cheaper.

I've got 3 sammy drives, wouldn't use anything else to be honest. Quiet, reliable, quick.

I've found that WDs tend to be be noisier (however, my last WD drive is about 2 years old)

That's the one I first looked at. Seems to be quite a lot of people moaning about reliability in the comments though. Also, thought the WD might be a bit better for power consumption. (Not sure how much of a difference it really is though. Apparently 5W, but, that means nothing to me really.)

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009

Honestly mate, it's so close in quality between the Sammys and the WDs you can't go wrong either way. I just prefer Sammy

Mussels · Apr 12, 2009

samsung.

seagate have the firmware issues, and i've had nothing but hell lately with WD drives. they're either slow as Fck capped at 45MB/s on the greenpowers) or very noisy (vibration).

samsungs i've got a lot of, and they've all been good performers, quiet and no vibrations.

red268 · Apr 12, 2009

Mussels said:
samsung.

seagate have the firmware issues, and i've had nothing but hell lately with WD drives. they're either slow as Fck capped at 45MB/s on the greenpowers) or very noisy (vibration).

samsungs i've got a lot of, and they've all been good performers, quiet and no vibrations.

Capped at 45MB/s!! Damn!! Although, I don't usually get much more than 30 when taking media off the camera anyway. But still ....

The WD supposedly has 6 times the life span of the Sammy

Mussels · Apr 12, 2009

red268 said:
Capped at 45MB/s!! Damn!! Although, I don't usually get much more than 30 when taking media off the camera anyway. But still ....

The WD supposedly has 6 times the life span of the Sammy

western digital greenpowers are the drives they sell in their external USB enclosures. since USB is capped at 40MB/s (30-35 is most common) they dont care - thats why they tend to be the cheapest ones around.

I get 60-110MB/s on my samsungs, depending which end of the drive the data is on.

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009

red268 said:
The WD supposedly has 6 times the life span of the Sammy

Most drives will last 5 years or more. Hell, I have old Maxtor harddrives that are a good 8 years old that still work.

red268 · Apr 12, 2009

Well thanks to both of you. I may as well get the Samsung. Slightly cheaper, much faster, can't see the power consumption making much of a difference to be fair, and, hopefully it'll be good and reliable!!

If it lasts well, I'll be getting another one as a back up for the first one.

FordGT90Concept · Apr 12, 2009

I'd get a Seagate Barracuda ES.2 drive myself. They are offered with 1 TB capacity. They have a 1.2 million hour MTBF and a 5 year warranty.

n-ster · Apr 12, 2009

You want Reliability? why not Raid 1? It would be extremely reliable! though you'd probably have to bust your budget big time...

Darknova · Apr 12, 2009

n-ster said:
You want Reliability? why not Raid 1? It would be extremely reliable! though you'd probably have to bust your budget big time...

RAID 1 is not entirely reliable, any corruption is copied 1:1 as well. RAID 5 is better, striped with parity.

Ketxxx · Apr 13, 2009

This Cheaper and a better performer. Review

n-ster · Apr 13, 2009

Darknova said:
RAID 1 is not entirely reliable, any corruption is copied 1:1 as well. RAID 5 is better, striped with parity.

You need 3 HDs minimum for RAID 5 though no? RAID 1 can handle 1 drive failure... so can RAID 5...

Mussels · Apr 13, 2009

n-ster said:
You need 3 HDs minimum for RAID 5 though no? RAID 1 can handle 1 drive failure... so can RAID 5...

if you run raid 1 or raid 5 and a virus gets into your machine... the originals and the backups are fucked. it backups the data on the go, so data corruption, user error, or a virus will trash the entire lot.

RAID only prevents data loss from total drive failure... it is NOT a backup solution.

Darknova · Apr 13, 2009

Ketxxx said:
This Cheaper and a better performer. Review

Ket, That's more expensive mate. It's £100, the others are around the £78 mark.

Ketxxx · Apr 13, 2009

Ebuyer have changed the price sine I linked yesterday, the green drive was £111. Even with a £20 difference now, the Black is still a much better performing drive for little difference in price.

Darknova · Apr 13, 2009

Ketxxx said:
Ebuyer have changed the price sine I linked yesterday, the green drive was £111. Even with a £20 difference now, the Black is still a much better performing drive for little difference in price.

The Samsung F1s are still up there with the WDs, and it's £22 cheaper....

Ketxxx · Apr 13, 2009

F1s have a flaw in them where the WD Black is a good all-rounder. Read the review I linked to

Mussels · Apr 13, 2009

Ketxxx said:
F1s have a flaw in them where the WD Black is a good all-rounder. Read the review I linked to

what flaw might that be?

edit: found it.

"While drives like Samsung's SpinPoint F1 offer excellent sustained throughput but falter with more random workloads, the latest Caviar doesn't skip a beat when presented with a mix of random read and write requests"

So for an OS drive, samsung might not be so hot. for storage, they're great.

Ketxxx · Apr 13, 2009

Still a flaw. No point getting a drive with a flaw in it. May as well spend that bit extra and know for a good long while the drive can be used for any and all purposes.

Mussels · Apr 13, 2009

Ketxxx said:
Still a flaw. No point getting a drive with a flaw in it. May as well spend that bit extra and know for a good long while the drive can be used for any and all purposes.

fair enough. It all depends on your intended purposes of the drives. samsung F1 work great for me, as i only use them externally.

Do the F2 drives have the same problem?

Darknova · Apr 13, 2009

The Caviar Black is in a tricky position, then. Sure, it's the fastest 7,200-RPM drive on the market, but it's also a little pricey and probably too loud for many enthusiasts' desktop systems. The Black is better suited to workstation and server environments that will capitalize on the drive's quick access times and strong performance with workloads that include more randomized I/O request patterns.

Main reason I got my Sammys over WDs, they're louder.

As the OP said, it'll be a storage drive, as such boot times etc. are invalid. I think the WD Black is a great drive, but for a drive purely for storage the F1 is £22 cheaper.

Mussels · Apr 13, 2009

i have 4 sammies running right next to me, and they're hardly audible. one or two drives alone would be silent.

The single seagate in the pile is where most of the noise is coming from.

Studabaker · Apr 13, 2009

To me reliability means Western Digital.

I don't know why everyone is so worried about noise as you didn't mention it (at least in your first post). My new WD RAID array is absolutely silent, nothing like my 2 year old WD PATA, which was pretty quiet in itself, but nothing like these new drives, they don't make noise at all.

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