Physx won't work with 3870 enabled in Windows 7!!

jhine5588 · May 28, 2009

So I installed 7, tried to run my Crossfire and 9600gt as a PPU but the physx option does not show up unless i disable the 3870 in device manager... I'm running the 9.5 catalyst and the 185.85 Forceware. I haven't tried any other catalyst drivers but i've tried a number of Forceware drivers. What other catalyst drivers are out there for 7? I go on amd's site and the 9.5's are the only ones that they show under 7.

Jeremy

Wile E · May 28, 2009

ATI and nVidia GPU Physx don't work together in current builds of 7. AT least not officially. The only thing you can do is to try numerous drivers from both to see if a certain combo will work. You can use Vista drivers in 7 as well.

Mussels · May 28, 2009

some people suggested running the nvidia card as the primary (booting from it), enable physx.

Then you enable the ATI on a secondary monitor, before swapping it to the primary. it should work until you restart.

jhine5588 · May 28, 2009

Mussels said:
it should work until you restart.

Haha, yeah... i'd like it to work after every restart. Funny thing is i open nvidia control panel with device manager open, disable 3870 and the physx pops up in the CP. So i enable it and go back in and enable the 3870 and boom, it disappears again. I had this problem before and it was an Nvidia driver not cooperating... I'm thinking it might be the 9.5's though. I'm running 9.4's on XP with crossfire and the 9600gt and it works great. I would really like to see what my setup will do on vantage and in 64bit gaming... I'm really digging 7 though, just hope I can get this going!!

Jeremy

Mussels · May 28, 2009

its just that this 'feature' with two cards, only works in XP. it was never designed to work in vista or 7.

jhine5588 · May 28, 2009

Mussels said:
its just that this 'feature' with two cards, only works in XP. it was never designed to work in vista or 7.

I was afraid of that... really thought some people got it to work on 7. I know they had issues but they did finally get it to in vista somehow. They were using beta versions of 7 though, before RC came out... Along with beta drivers.

Jeremy

ShadowFold · May 28, 2009

I tried with a 4850X2 and an 8800GTS, doesn't work in 7, period.

IINexusII · May 28, 2009

here goes NVIDIA again fucking up windows 7 with shit drivers

jhine5588 · May 28, 2009

Can anyone download the signed drivers for rivatuner? Everytime i try it seems the server is down...

Jeremy

TheMailMan78 · May 28, 2009

Wile E said:
ATI and nVidia GPU Physx don't work together in current builds of 7. AT least not officially. The only thing you can do is to try numerous drivers from both to see if a certain combo will work. You can use Vista drivers in 7 as well.

You have been graced by the great Wile E. Consider his word pure knowledge not for the faint at heart.

erocker · May 28, 2009

IINexusII said:
here goes NVIDIA again fucking up windows 7 with shit drivers

Lol, it's a limitation of Windows 7 and has nothing to do with Nvidia drivers. Blame Microsoft as they apparently won't allow two separate video drivers.

IINexusII · May 28, 2009

erocker said:
Lol, it's a limitation of Windows 7 and has nothing to do with Nvidia drivers. Blame Microsoft as they apparently won't allow two separate video drivers.

what i meant was that nvidia drivers caused alot of problems on vista, so i dont want the same thing happening to win7

http://www.pcmech.com/article/nvidia-the-cause-of-30-of-vista-crashes/

jhine5588 · May 28, 2009

I guess i'll just settle for crossfire in 7... save the fun stuff for XP

Jeremy

mankind · May 28, 2009

Pats Ageia PPU

jhine5588 · May 28, 2009

mankind said:
Pats Ageia PPU

Haha, so they work in 7? Must be something to do with the Nvidia card wanting to display... seems like SOMEONE could make a driver based on the Ageia one for the GeForce cards so they won't display... Anyone?

Jeremy

mankind · May 28, 2009

jhine5588 said:
Haha, so they work in 7? Must be something to do with the Nvidia card wanting to display... seems like SOMEONE could make a driver based on the Ageia one for the GeForce cards so they won't display... Anyone?

Jeremy

Yeah I use the Vista 64 drivers, works fine. Well for the one ot two pieces of software that use it

TheMailMan78 · May 28, 2009

mankind said:
Pats Ageia PPU

What is this you speak of? School me.

jhine5588 · May 28, 2009

Just a plain jane Ageia PPU I'm assuming... Opposed to a GeForce card that does it better

but hey, if it doesn't work in the newest of OSes then which one is in fact "better" lol

Jeremy

Edit: It works

at least in Fluidmark!!! I used the vista 185.20 Nvidia drivers and the vista 9.4's. Had my 3870's intalled and running, then installed the 185.2's without the physx software. Rebooted, then installed physx 8.11.18. I try to open the control panel and it sends a windows error... i go into fluidmark and it gives the same error, but when i run fluidmark it runs in hardware mode... but only 3K due to my overclock not being present because i need to get rivatuner working!!

Edit 2: I extended the display in CCC, not windows. Just did a reboot and still works

!!!

newtekie1 · May 28, 2009

IINexusII said:
what i meant was that nvidia drivers caused alot of problems on vista, so i dont want the same thing happening to win7

http://www.pcmech.com/article/nvidia-the-cause-of-30-of-vista-crashes/

While they were "accurate" in saying nVidia drivers were identified in 30% of blue screens, however they don't talk about the fact that beta drivers were a large part of the 30%, and the fact that nVidia is probably one of the only hardware manufacturers that freely release beta drivers to the public. And at the time, you were very lucky if you found a beta driver from ATi, Intel, or Microsoft. Instability of beta drivers is an accepted risk that people know about before they install them, and really shouldn't have been considered, but they were. The numbers would be very different if they ignored crashes from non-WHQL drivers.

So take those numbers with a big grain of salt...

ShadowFold · May 28, 2009

I bet 15% of those nvidia crashes were from my 7600GT.

Dippyskoodlez · May 28, 2009

erocker said:
Lol, it's a limitation of Windows 7 and has nothing to do with Nvidia drivers. Blame Microsoft as they apparently won't allow two separate video drivers.

Microsoft has killed so many really cool things :roll:

Naekuh · May 28, 2009

IINexusII said:
here goes NVIDIA again fucking up windows 7 with shit drivers

forceware divers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CrapControlCenter.. err i mean CCC.

Id take nvidia drivers over CCC any day of the week month year.

Im on Xfire incase you guys think its just a blantant hate statement.

Forceware is so much better then CCC.

Dippyskoodlez · May 28, 2009

Naekuh said:
forceware divers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CrapControlCenter.. err i mean CCC.

Id take nvidia drivers over CCC any day of the week month year.

Im on Xfire incase you guys think its just a blantant hate statement.

Forceware is so much better then CCC.

The interface is definitely better, but I've definitely had better luck with my Ati cards working with games/Windows than Nvidia drivers.....

Infact the GF4 ut2k3 bug remains unfixed. :shadedshu

r9 · May 28, 2009

ShadowFold said:
I bet 15% of those nvidia crashes were from my 7600GT.

Wile E · May 29, 2009

jhine5588 said:
Haha, so they work in 7? Must be something to do with the Nvidia card wanting to display... seems like SOMEONE could make a driver based on the Ageia one for the GeForce cards so they won't display... Anyone?

Jeremy

Need to get on nVidia to do that. If you only want to use the card for Physx, they need to give us a driver that treats it as a coprocessor instead of a display adapter. It would completely eliminate any of these issues.

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