Microsoft to Strip Windows 7 of IE and WMP for Europe, Abiding by Laws

[mtosev]

@themailman

I think that there are serious problems with some practuses in the USA.

a nice example of this is ENRON. does Enron ring a bell?

where was the US government? they didnt know or they didnt do their job correctly. id go with the last one. so nobody is perfect.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Oh no! How dare I plug in my flash drive or external HDD. I really want junk software on my comp that I can't remove. Please, give it to me.

It's dumb to force m$ to remove it, but on the other hand, it makes sense b/c it: 1. it sucks 2. tied into the OS, maybe m$ will eventually separate it 3. defaults itself to everything, sometimes even after FF is set to default (some apps open IE instead of FF) 4. doesn't infect my comp just merely by being installed providing a platform of attack 5. it sucks super mega hard?

Anyone worth their salt wouldn't bother with IE or WMP, anyway. No loss.

 

[hat]

This is epic bullshit. Even though the IE and WMP haters are jumping for joy, how do you expect to be able to download an alternative browser in the first place?

 

[Paintface]

This is epic bullshit. Even though the IE and WMP haters are jumping for joy, how do you expect to be able to download an alternative browser in the first place?

is it that difficult to understand? just like updating windows doesnt need IE anymore, you will be able to download the most used browsers through a simular tool.

 

[TheMailMan78]

This is epic bullshit. Even though the IE and WMP haters are jumping for joy, how do you expect to be able to download an alternative browser in the first place?

Whats epic is the EU still attacking them even after they try and play "fair". This is about the EU extorting money from the private sector and has nothing to do with any anti-trust laws. But then what do you expect? They have Nazis and Pirates on the board.

 

[CyberDruid]

What's next? Shipping automobiles without steering wheels or tires so aftermarket MFRs would have better market share?

"So can I get my car with tires then?"

"I'm sorry sir you'll have to tow your new car out of the lot to one of the local tire shops...we are not allowed to put tires on."

 

[Paintface]

 

[extrasalty]

I have the IE- the first and only time I use it is when I search "Firefox".

 

[btarunr]

So Microsoft folded and is following the "rules" now and the EU is still after them? Greed is all the EU is.

The more I get to know about EU's antitrust lawsuits, the more I imagine them to be as unreasonable as the Canadians in the Canada on Strike episode of South Park. "We want ya mannei!"

(I know Canadians aren't that in reality)

 

[hat]

Oh no! How dare I plug in my flash drive or external HDD. I really want junk software on my comp that I can't remove. Please, give it to me.

This may be true for you, but what do you think the percentage is of people who have computers having an alternative browser tucked away somewhere, be it burnt to CD, on a flash drive etc. I'd be willing to bet that most of the computer-equipped populus doesn't know that other internet browsers exist outside of IE.

 

[TheGuruStud]

This may be true for you, but what do you think the percentage is of people who have computers having an alternative browser tucked away somewhere, be it burnt to CD, on a flash drive etc. I'd be willing to bet that most of the computer-equipped populus doesn't know that other internet browsers exist outside of IE.

Then they have no one to blame but themselves

 

[Triprift]

The ppl that will suffer from this the most would be non puter savvy ppl who dont know there is other browsers other than IE. Sure most of us here would know about chrome ff ect but the majority dont nice one EU.

 

[h3llb3nd4]

The ppl that will suffer from this the most would be non puter savvy ppl who dont know there is other browsers other than IE. Sure most of us here would know about chrome ff ect but the majority dont nice one EU.

I cant wait to see the EU get sued

 

[Triprift]

No no they dont get sued they just sue ms over and over again. Gotta stimulate the European economies somehow.

 

[imperialreign]

This is epic bullshit. Even though the IE and WMP haters are jumping for joy, how do you expect to be able to download an alternative browser in the first place?

I stillget the feeling MS is going to use the loophole of stripping WIN7 of IE and WMP . . . but include a second disk in the retail package that has IE8 and WMP11 on it.

There's nothing that says they can't include these applications with retail WIN 7 on a seperate disk . . .

 

[NympH]

they'll have some sort of a downloader built in that gives you the option of installing it i presume...
either that you youll be able to use "windows explorer" to browse http / ftp pages like you currently can

Yeah, it's called windows update.

 

[thraxed]

I just hope we can buy the euro version in the us

 

[btarunr]

I just hope we can buy the euro version in the us

Trade your copy with alexp999.

 

[Triprift]

I think OEM versions wont be stripped back and is were the other browsers are kicking up a stink.

 

[btarunr]

I think OEM versions wont be stripped back and is were the other browsers are kicking up a stink.

They will be, though just like how OEMs have the freedom to bundle anti-virus software, they will be allowed to pre-install a browser of their choice, including IE8. What this does, is it in turn ends up publicising IE8. Imagine when someone like Dell or HP starts listing "Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player pre-installed" in their brochures.

 

[Triprift]

Some would look at firefox promoting with its world record dls in a day of version 3. Certainly didnt hurt them in that sense that it got them exposure.

 

[Wile E]

Well, you're free to believe in what you what. Honestly, do you think they're lying? Don't you think that if Futuremark was shady they'd have already taken money from Microsoft, and thus IE would be at the top of their list?

No, it's just that synthetic benches aren't always good indicators of real-world performance. I own and operate 2 Macs, and Safari 4 is shit. Even Firefox (without any add-ons) feels faster and more responsive in 99% of all tasks.

New to the Mac world? They do the same to just software, too -- there's no reason why some software should require OSX 10.5, either, but I've found quite a bit that are starting to "require" it.

The only programs that require a certain os version, are those that access specific low-level OS functions. The core of the OS does change in some updates, rendering some programs useless. It's no different than certain programs in Windows losing compatibility with newer versions of the OS.

Then they have no one to blame but themselves

Right, but the entire case against MS was that by them bundling IE and WMP, it provided them an unfair advantage in the browser and media player markets, because people, by and large, didn't really know anything else existed. It wasn't MS's fault that these people are uneducated. These people still had no one to blame but themselves, so why was MS blamed?

 

[mdm-adph]

The only programs that require a certain os version, are those that access specific low-level OS functions. The core of the OS does change in some updates, rendering some programs useless. It's no different than certain programs in Windows losing compatibility with newer versions of the OS.

Ah, but that's the thing -- not only do I find MacOS 10.5 a minor update at best, but the kinds of programs I'm finding that are requiring it are ridiculously simple -- I just can't imagine them needing to use hugely specific low-level OS functions, since I'm pretty sure even versions of Photoshop that worked on 10.4 will work fine on 10.5. I'll try and find a few examples.

 

[zAAm]

I'll just keep on using Firefox and VLC/K-lite Media Player Classic then...

 

[Triprift]

Im happy enough with IE WMP though thats a different kettle of fish has been gathering dust due to bugger all use.