upgrade advice is need

[lover_pharaoh2002]

Hi
I want to upgrade my rig , i will keep the gpu
Mainboard : GA-945PL-S3P(rev. 6.6
Processor : Intel Pentium Dual-Core E5200 @ 2500 MHz
Physical Memory : 2048 MB (2 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : ATI Radeon HD 4670 1 gb
Hard Disk : WDC (160 GB)
Hard Disk : WDC (640 GB)

i have 2 choices
1- move to amd
Phenom II X2 550 3.1GHz (570 EP)
Gigabyte GA-MA770t-UD3P (525 EP)
Kingston (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 MHz CL9 (560 EP)

2- intel
Intel Core2Duo E8400 3.0GHz (950 EP)
GIGABYTE GA-EP45T-UD3LR (700 EP)
Kingston (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 MHz CL9 (560 EP)

the Question is , shall i move to amd which is low in price or pay more bucks for intel ?

 

[DirectorC]

I can't argue against your proposed Intel setup because I have an EP45-UD3R and am about to move from an E7400 to an E8400

However, for not much more you can get an i5 750, P55 board and the same RAM. Of course that depends on how much things cost where you're at, but for most people the cost difference between the E8400 setup you've listed and an i5 setup is about 15% (mostly because the i5 costs $200 vs the E8400 at $170).

 

[GSquadron]

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/
The best advices i have ever seen

 

[lover_pharaoh2002]

i5 is greet cpu but i don't that much cash
i5(1225 EP)
p55(1750 EP)

i want to know is it worse to move from my current rig amd choice or go for intel choice?
becose i heard that amd is not as much good as intel , is it true?

 

[DirectorC]

Are you a gamer? Because the 4670 is not a performer. It's holding you back in games more than anything else.

If you're looking for raw power, I would pay for the E8400--BUT the Phenom II 550 WOULD be a lot better than your E5200...

 

[lover_pharaoh2002]

i run res 5,cryisis , grid, dirt2 1600x900 high setting no problem , but the cpu usage is 75-100 % always

 

[DirectorC]

but the cpu usage is 75-100 % always

Probably because you have a 4670.

Edit: Let me tell you my final verdict. Put the fastest dual-core socket 775 CPU that you can on your current motherboard and get a good modern video card like a 4870 or 5770. Forget the new motherboard and RAM, they will not net you noticeable gains. Upgrade your current 2GBs to 4 if you wish, but I don't see it as necessary. I have 2GB RAM and I'm about to install an extra 1GB and I'm happy with that.

 

[GSquadron]

If the cpu usage is that much, i think you probably need a new cpu, cuz the cpu is giving all its power and maybe it battlenecks
If you only have these choices the amd 550 be is the best cpu for around 100$ (i mean for games)
I dont really think you need a new card, cuz that happens to me too with my 7600 gs
The cpu shows 65-100%

 

[Wile E]

Keep your cpu, buy the EP45 mobo and ram, then buy a 5770.

 

[DirectorC]

If the cpu usage is that much, i think you probably need a new cpu, cuz the cpu is giving all its power and maybe it battlenecks

Yeah the CPU is a HUGE battleneck, trust me... that's why I said it's the GPU's fault, the GPU is running at 100% and handing off its load to the CPU, which itself has a f*** lot to do under these circumstances such as 'Crysis @ 1600x900 on high'. I have a hard time believing it runs with no problem, maybe the OP thinks 18FPS is playable though, who are we to judge.

I dont really think you need a new card, cuz that happens to me too with my 7600 gs
The cpu shows 65-100%

Because you have a 7600.

 

[GSquadron]

I dunno but i was thinking you director will surely reply to me. Are you kidding with the load of cpu which brings the gpu to it? It never happens even with the core i5 with intel graphics. So the load of the gpu for the cpu is unstable. The cpu is giving all of its power in order to achieve as much as possible from the gpu and the cpu, lover has, is terrible for that card. That happens to me too, because the 7600 GS is more powerful than the stupid sempron 2600+ can handle. I need a phenom II 550 be too
http://www.hardware-revolution.com/best-cpu-for-your-money-november-2009/
http://www.hardware-revolution.com/best-video-card-for-your-money-january-2010/
Have a look to these reviews cuz they are great!

 

[Fourstaff]

Upgrade ram to 4gb and graphics card to 5770 or 5750, you are going to do that upgrade anyway in the future.

 

[vbx]

My setup, e8500 with a 4670. I play most game with no problems. Dirt2, SF4, but really not much of a gamer. As long as it works i'm good.

 

[GSquadron]

As i said is the cpu problem, not ram, mobo neither the graphic card

 

[exodusprime1337]

m 2 cents-go amd because it's cheaper overall imho

my other 2 cents, an i5 really isn't that much more expensive that what your thinking about getting now, i'd save the extra 30 bucks or so and go with the i5 rig.

 

[lover_pharaoh2002]

thank you all for your valuable advice, alot of idea here i get
1-keep my momo change the cpu and gpu (my momo Max Bus 800 mhz and Supported RAM ddr2 bus 667) so i will not have all power of the new cpu.
2-keep the cpu and change the momo to ep ep54 ( cpu Max Bus 800 mhz)so i will not have all power of the new momo.
is it right ?

 

[Helper]

As i said is the cpu problem, not ram, mobo neither the graphic card

As Director said, it's a CPU AND a graphics card problem. The RAM and the motherboard has a very little effect on a system's gaming performance. RAM only becomes a problem when a game fills it up. Games depend solely on CPU and GFX power. Unless he is overclocking, there is no point in changing the P945 motherboard. It can take Core Microarchitecture CPUs already. Seeing that he wants slow DDR3 RAM in a new platform, he'll probably go for a cheap DDR2 RAM kit if he wants to add more RAM anyway. Both his CPU and GPU are weak and they can be considered as low-end. So I would suggest a fast E8X00 CPU and a faster GFX like a HD 4890.

 

[ste2425]

id say the same as everyone else new cpu an gpu, personally id go for intel E8400 but that just coz i got a intel bassed mobo i have myself a E8200 and it performs realy well with my whole rig so i would asume the E8400 to be even better

 

[assaulter_99]

thank you all for your valuable advice, alot of idea here i get
1-keep my momo change the cpu and gpu (my momo Max Bus 800 mhz and Supported RAM ddr2 bus 667) so i will not have all power of the new cpu.
2-keep the cpu and change the momo to ep ep54 ( cpu Max Bus 800 mhz)so i will not have all power of the new momo.
is it right ?

Or 3. you could just buy a gpu (5770 or higher) and keep saving up till you can afford an i5. Ain't worth buying a new 775 mobo and cpu now imho especially if you plan to keep it for a couple of years. I would do it if i can find a killer deal or used, but not the retail price.

 

[GSquadron]

As Director said, it's a CPU AND a graphics card problem. The RAM and the motherboard has a very little effect on a system's gaming performance. RAM only becomes a problem when a game fills it up. Games depend solely on CPU and GFX power. Unless he is overclocking, there is no point in changing the P945 motherboard. It can take Core Microarchitecture CPUs already. Seeing that he wants slow DDR3 RAM in a new platform, he'll probably go for a cheap DDR2 RAM kit if he wants to add more RAM anyway. Both his CPU and GPU are weak and they can be considered as low-end. So I would suggest a fast E8X00 CPU and a faster GFX like a HD 4890.

Are u really sure about that? Cuz he changed his mind when he talks about gaming saying that the graphic card is better to be upgraded. Thank you dishelper

 

[lover_pharaoh2002]

i don't understand this how my momo will be good with e8400 , if i replace my cpu for e8400 i will have all its bus?
also my 4670 1gb run all the games at high no slowness throw the game, why i should replace it?

 

[ste2425]

i don't understand this how my momo will be good with e8400 , if i replace my cpu for e8400 i will have all its bus?
also my 4670 1gb run all the games at high no slowness throw the game, why i should replace it?

coz it can play games now fine but i doubt it will play newer games as well is what i think people are trying to say plus no DX11 if your into that

 

[GSquadron]

i don't understand this how my momo will be good with e8400 , if i replace my cpu for e8400 i will have all its bus?
also my 4670 1gb run all the games at high no slowness throw the game, why i should replace it?

Is it a mothermoard???

 

[lover_pharaoh2002]

Is it a mothermoard???

what do you mean ????

 

[GSquadron]

he always says my momo