The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[jjFarking]

well its so i can get a good hair reference and besides if i can get the lighting right and get her in there and maybe just maybe i can fool some ppl eitherway its a work in progress but i can say most of the modeling and detailing is done ive been working predominately on textures

and lets just say in that pic above

the 5850s block access to everything from the loooks of it the cmos clear pins are 100% covered by the gpu

Understood

As for the pins.. crud :/
Are they really that close together?
Must be cramped. The layout looks deceivingly roomy..
Ah well.. was worth a shot

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

well i think it can be done piece of metal bend it to 90 degrees insert turn and pins should short out just need to find me a paper clip lol

 

[Kei]

where are the 2 pins and 9/10 due to how gigabyte laid out my board there will be a graphics card blocking it lol

The pins look like they're clear to get to without removing any cards. I do the samething on my board since my soundcard is blocking the battery. No need to remove the battery every time you want to clear cmos...if it doesn't clear then yea you need to remove the battery, but that's very rare it wouldn't clear.

Just touch a screw driver tip (with pc off of course lol) so that it's touching the two little pins I've circled next to the battery. Hold it there for say 10 seconds, and you're good to go.

Kei

 

[jjFarking]

you can always use a piece of masking tape over it to prevent anything from happening

The prob is NOT being able to get to it..

 

[jjFarking]

The pins look like they're clear to get to without removing any cards. I do the samething on my board since my soundcard is blocking the battery. No need to remove the battery every time you want to clear cmos...if it doesn't clear then yea you need to remove the battery, but that's very rare it wouldn't clear.

Just touch a screw driver tip (with pc off of course lol) so that it's touching the two little pins I've circled next to the battery. Hold it there for say 10 seconds, and you're good to go.

Kei

I'm sure I said that?
LOL.. it's late, OK?
That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

lol anyway ill worry about it later transfering 500gigs at 25Mb/s is tedious gonna load a game to pass the time

 

[jjFarking]

lol anyway ill worry about it later transfering 500gigs at 25Mb/s is tedious gonna load a game to pass the time

You're just impatient

Have fun

 

[Kei]

Kei, you are the type of person that is happy as long as they are changing something around in their PC. That's good, that's how we end up with such valuable info. I thank you for that. I've been wanting to play around with my case as well lately, but been too lazy.

BTW, I got rear ended today, sucks! Just when things were looking better once again I'm doomed. I'm getting used to this cycle already.

lol, I can't help myself when my brain gets an idea in it's head of something that could even be a possible 1% more efficient with a current setup....I'm doomed to try it out. I have a very seriious engineering mind which gets dangerous at times lol. It's the same for cars too...which is kinda how I got into computers anyway. If it's too nasty/cold outside to work on a car.......hmmmm that's just about the time it's PERFECT to tweak on a computer lol.

I'll just sit and stare....and stare.....and stare (rinse repeat for another hour or two lol) at something going over 50 different possiblities to make it just that tiny little bit more efficient than it was even if it doesn't gain anything for me in the large scheme. I've also been thinking (aka staring) about the side panel and how I might be able to widen the center portion a further 25mm so that I could put a panel of 120mm fans there.

I'll likely head to the hardware store today and walk about (or just stand there thoughts eating away at me) looking for what just might be able to get that done for me.

That's the biggest reason I haven't bought a new case....because at some point.....I'm gonna feel pretty guilty....when I spill it's guts all over the floor.

Kei


(I assume no injuries during the accident...was it bad? I had that happen to me once before, though the fine chap totalled my less than 30 day old car....and had a fake name....fake insurance....etc. etc. etc.)

 

[Kei]

I'm sure I said that?
LOL.. it's late, OK?
That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it

 

[Chicken Patty]

lol, I can't help myself when my brain gets an idea in it's head of something that could even be a possible 1% more efficient with a current setup....I'm doomed to try it out. I have a very seriious engineering mind which gets dangerous at times lol. It's the same for cars too...which is kinda how I got into computers anyway. If it's too nasty/cold outside to work on a car.......hmmmm that's just about the time it's PERFECT to tweak on a computer lol.

I'll just sit and stare....and stare.....and stare (rinse repeat for another hour or two lol) at something going over 50 different possiblities to make it just that tiny little bit more efficient than it was even if it doesn't gain anything for me in the large scheme. I've also been thinking (aka staring) about the side panel and how I might be able to widen the center portion a further 25mm so that I could put a panel of 120mm fans there.

I'll likely head to the hardware store today and walk about (or just stand there thoughts eating away at me) looking for what just might be able to get that done for me.

That's the biggest reason I haven't bought a new case....because at some point.....I'm gonna feel pretty guilty....when I spill it's guts all over the floor.

Kei


(I assume no injuries during the accident...was it bad? I had that happen to me once before, though the fine chap totalled my less than 30 day old car....and had a fake name....fake insurance....etc. etc. etc.)

Yeah if you get a more expensive case, you wouldn't wanna mod that as much as it's more money on the line. But knowing you you'd be succesful. I get your point, you'll have more fun with this case and continue to improve it than getting a case that's already "great".

The accident wasn't that bad, it's got some damage but everything is ok.

 

[exodusprime1337]

The pins look like they're clear to get to without removing any cards. I do the samething on my board since my soundcard is blocking the battery. No need to remove the battery every time you want to clear cmos...if it doesn't clear then yea you need to remove the battery, but that's very rare it wouldn't clear.

Just touch a screw driver tip (with pc off of course lol) so that it's touching the two little pins I've circled next to the battery. Hold it there for say 10 seconds, and you're good to go.

Kei

one thing i always did to kinda rig the clr cmos feature was take a 3 pin fan commector and plug it into the clr rts jumpers and the short out the pins at the end of the wire... i just leave the wire tucked in the case bottom somewhere i can reach it... i plan on however wiring up to a switch on the front panel somewhere... on my antec 1200 i wired it to the reset switch.. i'll be diong something similar with this case.

 

[exodusprime1337]

lol, I can't help myself when my brain gets an idea in it's head of something that could even be a possible 1% more efficient with a current setup....I'm doomed to try it out. I have a very seriious engineering mind which gets dangerous at times lol. It's the same for cars too...which is kinda how I got into computers anyway. If it's too nasty/cold outside to work on a car.......hmmmm that's just about the time it's PERFECT to tweak on a computer lol.

I'll just sit and stare....and stare.....and stare (rinse repeat for another hour or two lol) at something going over 50 different possiblities to make it just that tiny little bit more efficient than it was even if it doesn't gain anything for me in the large scheme. I've also been thinking (aka staring) about the side panel and how I might be able to widen the center portion a further 25mm so that I could put a panel of 120mm fans there.

I'll likely head to the hardware store today and walk about (or just stand there thoughts eating away at me) looking for what just might be able to get that done for me.

That's the biggest reason I haven't bought a new case....because at some point.....I'm gonna feel pretty guilty....when I spill it's guts all over the floor.

Kei


(I assume no injuries during the accident...was it bad? I had that happen to me once before, though the fine chap totalled my less than 30 day old car....and had a fake name....fake insurance....etc. etc. etc.)

man you and i think the same way... i thought for 5 days about how i was gonna set up the water cooling and then when i did, i changed it a day later and addded new parts.. doing that again today i believe, came up with an idea for where to mount my resevoir to make it les cluttered lol.

 

[PaulieG]

Just because I'm a bit rusty with AMD stuff.... Should I run my DDR3 at 1T or 2T on AM3 boards?

Kei, you are the type of person that is happy as long as they are changing something around in their PC. That's good, that's how we end up with such valuable info. I thank you for that. I've been wanting to play around with my case as well lately, but been too lazy.

BTW, I got rear ended today, sucks! Just when things were looking better once again I'm doomed. I'm getting used to this cycle already.

Sorry to hear that man. At least you shouldn't have to pay for the damage since you were rear ended.

 

[Kei]

Yeah if you get a more expensive case, you wouldn't wanna mod that as much as it's more money on the line. But knowing you you'd be succesful. I get your point, you'll have more fun with this case and continue to improve it than getting a case that's already "great".

The accident wasn't that bad, it's got some damage but everything is ok.

lol, I said I'd momentarily feel bad about spilling the new cases guts......that doesn't mean I won't happily cut swiss cheese holes into a $300 case.

I would however feel bad for about 15 minutes...then the sound of a dremel/drill/etc. would totally drown that out and I'd be happy again.

I love taking great things and making them greater, nothing really comes out 'perfect' since it has to appeal to a rather huge audience so I usually mod my stuff for my own specific purposes...unless I plan on selling it very quickly and only want to play with it for a while so I don't do anything permanent unless it will add to the value (mosfet cooler for the 770T for instance)

I do think it's more fun though to buy something that's FAR from perfect, and begin to fashion it to the way that you want it to be. You have much more fun, and learn FAR FAR FAR more about how things work/don't work.

Glad to hear the accident wasn't too bad.

I'm gonna have to wait a bit to work on the case some more today, just got a call from a friend having some computer issues so I gotta drive out and fix it.

Kei

 

[Kei]

Just because I'm a bit rusty with AMD stuff.... Should I run my DDR3 at 1T or 2T on AM3 boards?

1T unless you're looking for super uber ridiculous nosebleed speeds.....which I haven't found yet anyway. I can happily run 1T cas8 all the way up to just shy 1900Mhz which is where my boards tops out no matter how I set the timings or voltage.

1T is easy, the big thing you'll need to look out for is using super tight timings. If you have ram that can do 1600Mhz cas7 it's 90% likely that you WON'T be able to use the 1600 divider in the bios to do so. You'd have to drop down to the 1333 divider and then clock up the bus speed to reach 1600 cas7. Some boards will do okay with cas7 1600 and cas6 1333, but so far I've not found one that will do it on the native dividers.

If you're looking for extremely tight timings you may need to drop down to the 1066 divider, and just clock the bus speed to reach them. Using the stock 1600 divider I can only get cas8 regardless of voltage or slot configuration....using the 1300 divider I can get 1600Mhz cas7 no problem....using the 1066 divider I can get 1600Mhz cas6 no problem. All of them are at the same voltage, it's just a compatability issue since DDR3 is still relatively new to AMD platforms.

If you're looking for 'normal' timings however you're fine to stick with your same divider and go from there. When running 1866Mhz cas8 I'm still able to use the normal 1600 divider because I haven't went tighter than cas8.

Okay I'm gonna stop talking now, I'm sure you get what I'm saying anyway lol.

Kei

 

[PaulieG]

1T unless you're looking for super uber ridiculous nosebleed speeds.....which I haven't found yet anyway. I can happily run 1T cas8 all the way up to just shy 1900Mhz which is where my boards tops out no matter how I set the timings or voltage.

1T is easy, the big thing you'll need to look out for is using super tight timings. If you have ram that can do 1600Mhz cas7 it's 90% likely that you WON'T be able to use the 1600 divider in the bios to do so. You'd have to drop down to the 1333 divider and then clock up the bus speed to reach 1600 cas7. Some boards will do okay with cas7 1600 and cas6 1333, but so far I've not found one that will do it on the native dividers.

If you're looking for extremely tight timings you may need to drop down to the 1066 divider, and just clock the bus speed to reach them. Using the stock 1600 divider I can only get cas8 regardless of voltage or slot configuration....using the 1300 divider I can get 1600Mhz cas7 no problem....using the 1066 divider I can get 1600Mhz cas6 no problem. All of them are at the same voltage, it's just a compatability issue since DDR3 is still relatively new to AMD platforms.

If you're looking for 'normal' timings however you're fine to stick with your same divider and go from there. When running 1866Mhz cas8 I'm still able to use the normal 1600 divider because I haven't went tighter than cas8.

Okay I'm gonna stop talking now, I'm sure you get what I'm saying anyway lol.

Kei

These sticks have D9KPT chips, so they clock pretty well. I'm testing right now at 1600 8-8-8-24 1T. I know they will be somewhat limited since I'm running 8GB (2GBx4)

 

[Chicken Patty]

Just because I'm a bit rusty with AMD stuff.... Should I run my DDR3 at 1T or 2T on AM3 boards?


Sorry to hear that man. At least you shouldn't have to pay for the damage since you were rear ended.

No but the paint is going to look akward with just the rear painted. Therefore I will probably have to work something out to paint the rest of the car.

lol, I said I'd momentarily feel bad about spilling the new cases guts......that doesn't mean I won't happily cut swiss cheese holes into a $300 case.

I would however feel bad for about 15 minutes...then the sound of a dremel/drill/etc. would totally drown that out and I'd be happy again.

I love taking great things and making them greater, nothing really comes out 'perfect' since it has to appeal to a rather huge audience so I usually mod my stuff for my own specific purposes...unless I plan on selling it very quickly and only want to play with it for a while so I don't do anything permanent unless it will add to the value (mosfet cooler for the 770T for instance)

I do think it's more fun though to buy something that's FAR from perfect, and begin to fashion it to the way that you want it to be. You have much more fun, and learn FAR FAR FAR more about how things work/don't work.

Glad to hear the accident wasn't too bad.

I'm gonna have to wait a bit to work on the case some more today, just got a call from a friend having some computer issues so I gotta drive out and fix it.

Kei

I've been meaning to get a cheap case and mod the shit out of it. I just need a dremel and some tin snips at most. I have it here actually, I have a cheap case to mod I just can't seem to get my priorties out of the way so I can focus on it. Shit keeps getting in my way.

 

[PaulieG]

No but the paint is going to look akward with just the rear painted. Therefore I will probably have to work something out to paint the rest of the car.



I've been meaning to get a cheap case and mod the shit out of it. I just need a dremel and some tin snips at most. I have it here actually, I have a cheap case to mod I just can't seem to get my priorties out of the way so I can focus on it. Shit keeps getting in my way.

I don't know man. They are getting pretty good at blending. I got rear ended a couple of years ago in my old Jetta Turbo. I swear I couldn't tell they painted it when I got it back.

 

[Kei]

I've been thinking about buying another cheap case too just to start from scratch with a more open base to begin with. I really REALLY like that Lancool K62, but it's just too 'perfect' to start with for a mod...I'd end up doing almost nothing on it which would make my mind like sad pandas.

I may take a look at CompUSA or a local mom and pop style shop just to see what they have that's fairly plain yet not hideous.

Paulie (if I may call you that) I'll keep checking throughout the day on my phone to see how things are going if you're posting them. If you run into any snags hopefully I can help. Once you get up super high you may need to add a tick or two of voltage to the northbridge.

Kei

 

[Chicken Patty]

I don't know man. They are getting pretty good at blending. I got rear ended a couple of years ago in my old Jetta Turbo. I swear I couldn't tell they painted it when I got it back.

It's that the rest of the car in some spots has like black spots that are already dug into the paint, it's just going to be very obvious. I'll see. Body shop quotes dealer prices, I'll see if maybe I can save the dude a few bucks and find the bumper and stuff cheaper and the money I saved him I can put it towards painting the rest of the car. Then I can just put the rest out of my pocket you know.

 

[Master}{]

Any news on the new AM3 6 Core Phenoms, i know there in production, but i have yet to hear appx release dates or much of any info about them.

Me Want

 

[jjFarking]

These sticks have D9KPT chips, so they clock pretty well. I'm testing right now at 1600 8-8-8-24 1T. I know they will be somewhat limited since I'm running 8GB (2GBx4)

The limitation would be in the mobo more than the CPU.
Even Corsair recommends going 8GB over less.
16GB, however, may be a different story altogether..

Kei's been pretty good at getting the limits of his mobo. It's good to learn from his endeavours, so we don't have to worry about frying our hardware

 

[jjFarking]

Any news on the new AM3 6 Core Phenoms, i know there in production, but i have yet to hear appx release dates or much of any info about them.

Me Want

According to wikipedia, Q2 this year

 

[Velvet Wafer]

aaah damn! i cant get ddr3-1433,on my ripjaws running 7-6-5-16-24 stable,tho 7-7-5-16-24 is rockstable!!
it takes subtimings like nothing, but cas latency cant be changed lower, or the rig wont post, and now i dont know, how i can stop the sticks from erroring in memtest. voltage doesnt help them

 

[jjFarking]

aaah damn! i cant get ddr3-1433,on my ripjaws running 7-6-5-16-24 stable,tho 7-7-5-16-24 is rockstable!!
it takes subtimings like nothing, but cas latency cant be changed lower, or the rig wont post, and now i dont know, how i can stop the sticks from erroring in memtest. voltage doesnt help them

The 5-16 bit is where your problem is.
Try them slightly higher, eg. 6-19, or 7-19