ATI 58XX owners Club

TRIPTEX_CAN · Apr 13, 2010

Tatty_One said:
i'll be joining shortly.... just gotta make my mind up on which 5850 to go for, my choice is.....

Powercolor PCS+ Non ref mefinks
Sapphire Vapor-X
Sapphire Toxic.... ^^ (both non ref I beleive so no votage adjustment)
Sapphire stock (not sure whether Ref or non?)

Thats about it at the moment until they got more stock in, looks like the only non ref MIGHT be the stock Sapphire?

Thoughts? I am pretty sure that the Powercolor and Sapphire Toxics already have higher than ref voltages so I might stick with one of them, however I will still need to unlock the BIOS I guess to allow higher clocking in CCC unless of course I use the 3rd parties.

Edit: I am only using this store because I have a 20% off voucher!

I guess it all depends on what you hope to squeeze from the cards and if you plan to put them under water. I'm a big fan of the reference cards for the voltage control so if you want e-peen clock from the card I think that's your best but. If you don't plan to push for +1000Mhz and have no interest in water cooling than I'd get the toxic. Buying the Vapor-X card just to remove the cooler would be a waste IMO.

I know W1zz was using a 5870 PCS+ in his personal system and appeared quite happy with it but other than that I have no experience with them.

Tatty_Two · Apr 13, 2010

digibucc said:
no offense to PC but i would go with sapphire first, you should also try and get a ref so see if their stock one is. the toxic etc is a 25mhz OC, and non ref so no voltage adjustment. just get a ref and do the 25 yourself.

i personally would rather just use afterburner than flash a bios, but to each their own as far as that is concerned...

I was thinking that but I am greedy.... I also want the quiet cooler! I think the Toxic (as opposed to VaporX) stocks at 760 and the PCS+ stocks at 775 but sometimes those overclocked chips can be better binned, not sure what to do really, the reference is cheaper, how is fan noise in everyday gaming on a reference cooler at around 850mhz?

TRIPTEX_CAN · Apr 13, 2010

Tatty_One said:
I was thinking that but I am greedy.... I also want the quiet cooler! I think the Toxic (as opposed to VaporX) stocks at 760 and the PCS+ stocks at 775 but sometimes those overclocked chips can be better binned, not sure what to do really, the reference is cheaper, how is fan noise in everyday gaming on a reference cooler at around 850mhz?

I game on my reference cooler @ 920 1.15v with the fan on auto and I don't hear the card at all. since 850Mhz is achievable on stock voltage it would probably be just as quiet.

I also don't break 70c at my clocks under full load (gaming load, not furmark)

1Kurgan1 · Apr 15, 2010

Well I just tossed down and bought 2 MSI OC'd editions, got them both for $500, couldn't pass it up. Now the hunt for a PII 965 C3

Thrackan · Apr 15, 2010

Have a standard XFX version, planning to change coolers for a little bit of quiet, and some room so I can hopefully use more SATA ports

erixx · Apr 15, 2010

Thrackan, Nu begrijp ik je avatar! haha (that explains your avatar)

mav2000 · Apr 15, 2010

I could do 930/1100 on stock voltage, on a sapphire 5850 normal version. And its quiet. I had the 4870 toxic vapor x before this and that sounded aweful while gaming...

Thrackan · Apr 15, 2010

erixx said:
Thrackan, Nu begrijp ik je avatar! haha (that explains your avatar)

I understood yours the first time I saw it

You been shoopin' da whoop lately?

Btw, I'd love to hear if anyone here has used custom air coolers on their 5850. I'm looking for an Arctic Accelero Twin Turbo Pro, which *should* fit and perform nicely.

OnBoard · Apr 15, 2010

Thrackan said:
Btw, I'd love to hear if anyone here has used custom air coolers on their 5850. I'm looking for an Arctic Accelero Twin Turbo Pro, which *should* fit and perform nicely.

Doesn't fit if it's reference design. Hits the double stacked DVI ports. If the card is non reference with 1x DVI, then it's ok.

Tatty_Two · Apr 15, 2010

Thanks for the replies, I think I will go with a reference card, somehow it just does not seem right to get hardware and not push it to the limit!

erixx · Apr 15, 2010

Thrackan said:
I understood yours the first time I saw it

You been shoopin' da whoop lately?

Btw, I'd love to hear if anyone here has used custom air coolers on their 5850. I'm looking for an Arctic Accelero Twin Turbo Pro, which *should* fit and perform nicely.

THAT is the one I have to pick up later today, if it arrives as promised

OnBoard said:
Doesn't fit if it's reference design. Hits the double stacked DVI ports. If the card is non reference with 1x DVI, then it's ok.

No problem, mate. The fins are easy to cut a little to make it fit. Pix will be posted, relax

Thrackan · Apr 15, 2010

erixx said:
THAT is the one I have to pick up later today, if it arrives as promised

No problem, mate. The fins are easy to cut a little to make it fit. Pix will be posted, relax

Cool, I'll be watching yours then before I make a move

erocker · Apr 16, 2010

Gentlemen and ladies. I'm looking for a consensus on how much GPU voltage is needed for a 5850 to be 1ghz GPU stable using reference cards. Anyone know of a list?

Fitseries3 · Apr 16, 2010

erocker said:
Gentlemen and ladies. I'm looking for a consensus on how much GPU voltage is needed for a 5850 to be 1ghz GPU stable using reference cards. Anyone know of a list?

+1

ShRoOmAlIsTiC · Apr 16, 2010

the 1ghz core thread over at XS. theres not an actual list but everyone shows there voltage and what not.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240017

erocker · Apr 16, 2010

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah734PmsAFeKdDV5dHRZaVVGczIyd0lJcnl0RzZDVEE&hl=en :cool:

Found on another thread at XS.

*So the lowest on that list is 1.2v for 1ghz.

travva · Apr 16, 2010

i've got 2 asus 5850 directcu cards, one is a top and one isn't and i've got mine running at 900 mhz core and 1250 for memory. they seem to be doing fine. i haven't tested furmark yet but normally when i push something too far bad company 2 causes the gpu recovery or starts artifacting and freezes up. love these cards, much better than my gtx 260's in sli.

erocker · Apr 16, 2010

travva said:
i've got 2 asus 5850 directcu cards, one is a top and one isn't and i've got mine running at 900 mhz core and 1250 for memory. they seem to be doing fine. i haven't tested furmark yet but normally when i push something too far bad company 2 causes the gpu recovery or starts artifacting and freezes up. love these cards, much better than my gtx 260's in sli.

Yes, I have found that Bad Company 2 works just the same as FurMark or Kombustor.. and you get to play it!

Fitseries3 · Apr 16, 2010

those settings work great...

erixx · Apr 16, 2010

erocker said:
Gentlemen and ladies. I'm looking for a consensus on how much GPU voltage is needed for a 5850 to be 1ghz GPU stable using reference cards. Anyone know of a list?

That's EXACTLY what was goiing on in my mind these days, erocker!!!

Now I have to study it.... AND

Mount my shiny new Artic Cooling Accelero Turbo Pro Speed GP Velocity überpwned Full Top Durable................. fans.... haha

erocker · Apr 16, 2010

Fitseries3 said:
those settings work great...

http://img.techpowerup.org/100416/Capture039.jpg

Nice! Hey, have you tried installing the Stream SDK 2.01 to see if it affects bench's? Hopefully for the better!

I've been using it and notice better video playback and of course the OpenCL box is ticked in GPU-Z.

Fitseries3 · Apr 16, 2010

link?

erocker · Apr 16, 2010

Just scroll down to the bottom: http://developer.amd.com/gpu/ATIStreamSDK/Pages/default.aspx

It's much easier to install now. Just extract it to wherever, then it will install three separate things. Restart. :toast:

TheMailMan78 · Apr 16, 2010

erocker said:
Nice! Hey, have you tried installing the Stream SDK 2.01 to see if it affects bench's? Hopefully for the better!

I've been using it and notice better video playback and of course the OpenCL box is ticked in GPU-Z.

No one ever gave me credit for posting the new version ether. I had a sad.

erixx · Apr 16, 2010

I do not want to hijack the latest posts, interesting without doubt, and posted by honourable men without doubt, ...

But i have an issue.... Help will be much appreciated.

I just mounted my Artic Cooling VGA cooler (details and pics coming), but the 2 fans do not run at all...

That's when I connect them to the VGA card: no moving of fans. IF I cannect them to a 4 pin Molex they do run. So it's not a fan issue.

Observing more closely the 3-pin mini fan connector to the 5850 card, I observe that the colour code is not the same, apparantly red and yellow are inverted...

Do you guys know if this is a known problem? It would be funny (shitty more exactly) that Gigabyte, apart from making a somewhat different card etc, without 5xxx features like voltage control, also wouldhave facked big time with the fans and cables... Who knows!

Thanks in advance!

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