Low FPS in Company of Heroes with 5870 :(

deaffob · Mar 30, 2010

My spec is: E8400@4.5ghz
DDR2@1060mhz
5870@stock

Naturally I just went ahead with everything maxed out (8X AA too). But I started getting 25fps in some part. It goes 60fps normally but it drops all the sudden and it's noticeable. Is it because this game favors quad CPU?

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HeroPrinny · Mar 30, 2010

CoH shouldn't be having those issues, it runs pretty good for me on my 4850, even when i had a dual core i don't remember having frame rate issues. have you tried updating your drivers, also what resolution are you gaming at?

AsRock · Mar 30, 2010

Try lowering the overclock on your CPU as maybe pushing it to hard ?.

Mussels · Mar 30, 2010

turn your sound settings down, and turn off reverb.

even with that, this game lags out sometimes - especially in 4v4 matches.

LifeOnMars · Mar 30, 2010

TBH though, COH is that sort of game that seems to register lower fps even when nothing is moving on screen and you have the camera down low but everything is still smooth when you then pan the camera. Anyone who has had a game of chess on the desktop whilst fraps is on would notice the same effect

Try it.

deaffob · Mar 30, 2010

The game play doesn't lag at all but when there is a cinematic scene going on, the scene gets low frame like 25fps

but the actual game play is smooth.

Mussels · Mar 30, 2010

deaffob said:
The game play doesn't lag at all but when there is a cinematic scene going on, the scene gets low frame like 25fps but the actual game play is smooth.

thats fairly normal then, those cinematics are often slower than the game because of the angle they're at, they show you half the battlefield in the distance.

Druz · Apr 25, 2010

Hi I registered because I have the same problem with an XFX 5870.

I upgraded from a GeForce 9800GTX+... the 5870 runs all games perfectly fine but after a few minutes inside of a multiplayer game the framerate locking in at 20fps, and eventually 8fps. In fact, it runs better with DX10 enabled.

I'm starting a game right now with audio quality lowered down.

Fourstaff · Apr 25, 2010

Druz said:
Hi I registered because I have the same problem with an XFX 5870.

I upgraded from a GeForce 9800GTX+... the 5870 runs all games perfectly fine but after a few minutes inside of a multiplayer game the framerate locking in at 20fps, and eventually 8fps. In fact, it runs better with DX10 enabled.

I'm starting a game right now with audio quality lowered down.

Hi and welcome to TPU! Can you fill up your system specs so that we can diagnose your problem? I have not played multiplayer on CoH, but have you tried to lower your eyecandy a bit to make sure that nothing is bottlenecking?

Mussels · Apr 26, 2010

Fourstaff said:
Hi and welcome to TPU! Can you fill up your system specs so that we can diagnose your problem? I have not played multiplayer on COD, but have you tried to lower your eyecandy a bit to make sure that nothing is bottlenecking?

this threads about CoH, not CoD

Druz · Apr 26, 2010

Filled some specs out, let me know if I'm too vague. With my 9800GTX+ I was running over 200+fps

Fourstaff · Apr 26, 2010

Mussels said:
this threads about CoH, not CoD

My bad, CoH it is (spent too much time bashing CoD :eek:

)

What drivers are you using? Also, have you patched up CoH to its latest? If you have Dawn of War II, you might want to try running it and see how it goes, I think they use the same engine.

Mussels · Apr 26, 2010

my guess (as i said earlier in the thread) is that its related to audio, specifically the reverb setting. it was well know this caused issues with P4 owners due to hyperthreading, so its likely doing the same on i7's with HT

ShogoXT · Apr 26, 2010

Try switching the shader box i think it is from ultra to high (switches it from DX10 to DX9). Doesnt make much visual difference, but jumps load times and speed of all things by a long shot.

Druz · Apr 27, 2010

Fourstaff said:
My bad, CoH it is (spent too much time bashing CoD )

What drivers are you using? Also, have you patched up CoH to its latest? If you have Dawn of War II, you might want to try running it and see how it goes, I think they use the same engine.

Using 10.3b, CoH is required to run at the lastest at all times. DoW2 is the same engine sort of, the people that made DoW2 were a bunch of clueless idiots and all the AAA-talent that worked on the CoH engine has left Relic already. So DoW2 is a direct upgrade from DoW1 so it won't really run the same.

Like I said though, even though it could possibly be an audio issue it'd make no sense since the only thing that has changed is my video card.

I've already reverted to High from Ultra and Ultra actually runs better.

Mussels · Apr 27, 2010

Druz said:
Using 10.3b, CoH is required to run at the lastest at all times. DoW2 is the same engine sort of, the people that made DoW2 were a bunch of clueless idiots and all the AAA-talent that worked on the CoH engine has left Relic already. So DoW2 is a direct upgrade from DoW1 so it won't really run the same.

Like I said though, even though it could possibly be an audio issue it'd make no sense since the only thing that has changed is my video card.

I've already reverted to High from Ultra and Ultra actually runs better.

just because it doesnt make sense, doesnt mean it cant be possible. Rather than say its not possible, try it...

oh and the 10.4a drivers are proving quite good, give them a shot. 10.3b may be wonky with CoH

Druz · Apr 27, 2010

I tried 10.4a but they're not installing properly it's weird. My screen flashes and my resolution is lowered permanently. I wonder if I'm dealing with a faulty card.

installed 10.4a and I get this message towards the end: Could not load file or assembly "MOM.Implementation" or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

I installed it from 10.3b, is that the wrong way to do it?

Mussels · Apr 27, 2010

Druz said:
I tried 10.4a but they're not installing properly it's weird. My screen flashes and my resolution is lowered permanently. I wonder if I'm dealing with a faulty card.

installed 10.4a and I get this message towards the end: Could not load file or assembly "MOM.Implementation" or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

I installed it from 10.3b, is that the wrong way to do it?

betas can get complicated, uninstall the drivers, reboot, and try again.

MT Alex · Apr 27, 2010

If you don't want to mess around searching for your drivers, I have had great success lately using Driver Sweeper. You have to remember to get rid of all the crap from 10.3 before installing 10.3a. Also, Erocker has a helpful sticky in the graphics card section on how to manually uninstall drivers. They can be very stuborn and screw your rig up.

It's nice to have another CoH, RTS fan aboard. Welcome to TPU.

Druz · Apr 27, 2010

Haha thanks. I love CoH I've been playing (almost) every day with friends since release and actually played Relic in a 4v4 it was neat.

So I restarted and I still get the error I was speaking of but the drivers themselves are fine now. I just can't use CCC which I don't use anyway. Loading up CoH to see if theres an FPS difference.

MT Alex · Apr 27, 2010

After a cursory search in google, it appears that you must still have some old drivers or a corrupted NETframework. Found this on the AMD site, it sounds to be your exact error.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/26494-Radeon-MOM-CCC-implementation.aspx

Druz · Apr 27, 2010

This is it. Going to do what the instructions say thanks man. Currently have a CoH game open and waiting for the frames to drop. It could very well be a 10.3b issue

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