Battlefield Bad Company 2 Clubhouse

[Mussels]

But his new Phenom CPU scores destroys his x3 score by over 2000 points. Pretty huge margin IMO. Also he said that his current CPU was at 3.5Ghz for that test. 3DMark06 is lame for comparing current GPUs to past generation but it can still test CPUs well enough and let you know if crossfire is scaling.

3DM06 is multithreaded only for the CPU test.

you can get a higher CPU score by adding more and more threads, but a lower clock will only hurt the SM2.0 and 3.0 scores because they are not multithreaded.


DX11 is the first graphics engine to be multithreaded from the start, so any DX9 or DX10 tests will only care about how fast the one thread teh graphics is ran on is - it doesnt give a shite about your core count.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

3DM06 is multithreaded only for the CPU test.

you can get a higher CPU score by adding more and more threads, but a lower clock will only hurt the SM2.0 and 3.0 scores because they are not multithreaded.


DX11 is the first graphics engine to be multithreaded from the start, so any DX9 or DX10 tests will only care about how fast the one thread teh graphics is ran on is - it doesnt give a shite about your core count.

OK that makes sense with what I was saying... His CPU score is really good but his GPUs are not working like they should be.

The SM2/3 scores I posted up are much higher than his and I dont think +300Mhz on my CPU (mine with ddr2 vs his ddr3) would make that much of a difference.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

In 3dmark06 a faster clocked chip (using basically the same architecture) is going to win. 3.8Ghz CPU = 300Mhz more bandwidth for the GPU and likely an increase in FSB and Memory speeds. So it actually doesn't seem that out of place to me. Increase the x6 to 3.8Ghz and see what the results are.

The CPU score isn't just a pure CPU score...it's more of a system score. CPU,L2,FSB,MEM Bandwidth,Mem Latency all combine to make the CPU score.

 

[Mussels]

In 3dmark06 a faster clocked chip (using basically the same architecture) is going to win. 3.8Ghz CPU = 300Mhz more bandwidth for the GPU and likely an increase in FSB and Memory speeds. So it actually doesn't seem that out of place to me. Increase the x6 to 3.8Ghz and see what the results are.

The CPU score isn't just a pure CPU score...it's more of a system score. CPU,L2,FSB,MEM Bandwidth,Mem Latency all combine to make the CPU score.

the score itself is actually based purely on the CPU... its just that the FSB, cache and memory can all hold that score back (kinda obvious really)


4GHz 6 core + 400MHz ram? you bet your ass the ram will hold it back - but raising that ram faster and faster, you WILL reach a point you get no more gains, because the CPU is what matters most.

 

[1Kurgan1]

3DMark 2006 depend a lot on CPU clock, you guys should try Vantage, it should gives more accurate GPU score.

I was trying to test the CPU really.

I think you misunderstood me.. What I meant is because the graphic tests only use 1 or 2cores of the cpu, that's why his score with the Phenom x6 is not as high.

Beside, the SM2.0 doesn't scale well in crossfire. 200MHz in CPU clock could mean 1k GPU score.

Also I had crossfire before with my 4870x2. And the score with the Phenom X6 was great, the CPU score was about 2000 higher than my PII 720 BE, but my SM 2.0 and 3.0 scores were drastically lower. And 2x 5850's should have no issue beating my previous 2x 4870's, so my score should be well over 20k.

thats my opinion as well.

stop using 3DM06, its crap. use vantage, or a game test.

I was testing my CPU, he noticed my score and mentioned to look at the GPUs, I ran Heaven and got a low score (better bench than vantage for testing cards imo), Vantage is also crap that people pad scores with Psyhx, every bench has it's issues.

 

[Mussels]

true on the physX, but you arent comparing ATI vs nvidia... you're comapring two ATI systems

 

[epicfail]

true on the physX, but you arent comparing ATI vs nvidia... you're comapring two ATI systems

All that matters anyways is ingame FPS who cares about benchmarks

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

All that matters anyways is ingame FPS who cares about benchmarks

Benchmarks suck but it's good to know if $500 worth of GPU is popping off right.

If you scored 1/3 of what you should score in the foremost DX11 test.. you'd care.

 

[kid41212003]

Going from Phenom 2.7GHz to i7 4.2GHz gave me ~12k (11k->23k 8800GT SLI) boost in 3dmark 2006, but in Vantage it's less than 100 points.

Vantage is multi-threaded, high-clock doesn't matter much.

 

[1Kurgan1]

true on the physX, but you arent comparing ATI vs nvidia... you're comapring two ATI systems

Right, but I'm just saying I had only ran 3d06 to test the CPU, but he had noticed my GPU score was low. I'll be reinstalling drivers later to see if thats the issue.

Going from Phenom 2.7GHz to i7 4.2GHz gave me ~12k (11k->23k 8800GT SLI) boost in 3dmark 2006, but in Vantage it's less than 100 points.

Vantage is multi-threaded, high-clock doesn't matter much.

Going from a 2.7ghz PI to a 4.2Ghz i7 would have massively increased your CPU power, which is what 3d06 scores mostly off of. Vantage scores off both, but it will only score off your bottleneck basically. Since your cards and your processor were decently matched before your Vantage score was fine, but after the i7 your cards were not on par with your CPU. Best way I can explain it is, if you got 8000 CPU score and 8000 GPU score, then you upgraded your processor and it scored 24000 yet your GPU score was still 8000, you would end up with something like a 9000 score. It just shows that your GPU's a massive bottleneck. And it can work in the reverse order, just works a bit differently.

I'm not sure what you mean by multithreaded, as 3d06 works just fine even on my 6 core, my old tricore was running 300mhz faster than my 6 core and my 6 core scored about 2000 more points, and to put that in perspective, thats 1/3 faster (which is a lot).

 

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

HOT DAMN that's a nice round dude! Must have been a long round too! Tell me you did get the Ace Pin at least....

damn medic whore in my squad got it - his score was positive but only like 25-15 :\

I suppose he did his part though, keeping our team from ticketing out while I went to town on their faces

 

[kid41212003]

What I meant is GPU score only, not overall score (CPU score only add lil to overall score)

This pic should tell you how cpu clock effect gpu score in 3d2006 (just ran it).

 

[lemode]

FINALLY got my platinum with the m16!

went up about 10 points in my assault K/D as well!

Simultaneously reaching the 10,000 kill mark as well!

Good damn day in Bad Co 2 if you ask me!

 

[ArmoredCavalry]

What are the conditions under which you get an acepin? I have been noticing that I will have the highest score of both teams, and a lot of the time I don't get the acepin...

Is this a server setting? At first I thought it was because I joined a game late, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

What are the conditions under which you get an acepin? I have been noticing that I will have the highest score of both teams, and a lot of the time I don't get the acepin...

Is this a server setting? At first I thought it was because I joined a game late, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

The ace pin shows up in the awards bar almost by the time I'm done loading the next round. Al you have to do is have the most points in the server.

 

[shevanel]

i havent played this game in a couple weeks. don't really miss it the way it is.

Hopefully they will shed some new maps or something to make me want to play again.

 

[Frizz]

hopefully they will fix the BSOD in multiplayer.. happens only with this damn game, I haven't played for a while also because of this.

PS: I've tried absolutely everything.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Well, new drivers fixed my issues, 3D06 issues not fixed though, the issue with that is it's only using 50% from each of my cards. But I just crushed Vantage got P20031 and got 1562 in Heaven all on the low 765 factory OC. Oh and juiced the 6 core some more, it's running 3.6ghz on the stock fan now and just hammering shit out, this things amazing, tempted to go for 3.7ghz on the stock fan, only running 1.420v right now.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Well, new drivers fixed my issues, 3D06 issues not fixed though, the issue with that is it's only using 50% from each of my cards. But I just crushed Vantage got P20031 and got 1562 in Heaven all on the low 765 factory OC. Oh and juiced the 6 core some more, it's running 3.6ghz on the stock fan now and just hammering shit out, this things amazing, tempted to go for 3.7ghz on the stock fan, only running 1.420v right now.

Too bad about 3D06 then again it's garbage anyway but your heaven score looks good.

Honestly I wouldnt push too much more on the stock cooler... You should save the real fun for your new cooler and then clock the shit out of that thing.

You say 3D06 is only using 50% of each GPU. In BC2 I'm only averaging 65% usage on each GPU with Cat AI on standard and 71% with AI set to advanced. What usage are your GPUs getting?

 

[Mussels]

hopefully they will fix the BSOD in multiplayer.. happens only with this damn game, I haven't played for a while also because of this.

PS: I've tried absolutely everything.

i've never even heard of that, so i wouldnt blame the game.

sucks that you tried everything, however.

 

[kid41212003]

It stress your cpu quite alot, so make sure ur cpu is stable...

 

[1Kurgan1]

Too bad about 3D06 then again it's garbage anyway but your heaven score looks good.

Honestly I wouldnt push too much more on the stock cooler... You should save the real fun for your new cooler and then clock the shit out of that thing.

You say 3D06 is only using 50% of each GPU. In BC2 I'm only averaging 65% usage on each GPU with Cat AI on standard and 71% with AI set to advanced. What usage are your GPUs getting?

I am tempted to push it more on the stock cooler, probably will try, need to finish my new WC loop though.

I'll have to check my ingame usage, but I'm sure it's around those numbers.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

i have the same issue kurgan on my set up non overclocked my 5850s pull 65-75% usage in crysis overclocked to 830 core they drop to 55% if i go from 3.4ghz to down to 3ghz i drop to 49-50% its rather annoying to be honest

 

[EastCoasthandle]

The number of servers I find with people in it reminds me of BF2
What the heck happened? Are that many people turned off?

 

[Mussels]

The number of servers I find with people in it reminds me of BF2
What the heck happened? Are that many people turned off?

too many people bought servers.