Buy AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Or Wait for 32Nm Bulldozer?

GraveFiller · Jun 24, 2010

Been over 3 years since i was last in here building my 1st rig. And she's still kickin ass!
But since i've been doing some pc research on the newest shit out there in the pc world,
I see that it's almost Impossible for me not to get the

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz at $296.00 bucks!!

I mean that just blows me away 6 cores at 3.2 able to run at 4.1 ghz on air for 299.00 bucks!!!

My oc'ed Q6600 is still purring along at 3.2 ghz...with my 8800GTX Vid Card, but at those prices, i'm having a hard time sitt'n on the sidelines u know...

Hell fellas, should i ditch this ol skank ho...and Get me sum new trim?

Or get the 6 core whore! or wait some time for 32nm bulldozer in 2011?

I'd want for now:
Asus Crosshair IV and the amd phenom 6 core 1090T
I don't need 2 vid cards, i only have 20 inch monitor...so want 1 ati hd 5870 ..or if price comes down the HIS 5970 .

Thanks again fellas..for any feedback..!!!

. :toast:

kenkickr · Jun 24, 2010

I'd say since 2010 is half over and that you would have to basically build a whole new system I say just wait til bulldozer comes out.

DanTheMan · Jun 24, 2010

I say build now, Bulldozer is not on a guaranteed timeframe and there may be many bugs at the beginning. If your current system is working fine for you currently then the 1090 system will hold you over for apprx 3 to 4 years. At that time there will be something at least 2 times better than Bulldozer that you will want.

BraveSoul · Jun 24, 2010

wait for bulldozer, your system has lots of life left in it
_____________________________

Antec1200 filter project

erocker · Jun 24, 2010

I love new trim! Your current system is pretty good, however I'm biased and the new parts you want are very nice as well.. Perhaps just start with a 5870, try it out on your old system and go from there. :toast:

Don't wait for Bulldozer. There is no real information on it yet. I remember a lot of people saying "wait for Phenom" before the Phenom I's were out and that didn't turn out very well.

GraveFiller · Jun 24, 2010

kenkickr said:
I'd say since 2010 is half over and that you would have to basically build a whole new system I say just wait til bulldozer comes out.

Lol, i hate getting conflicting advice...some say stay, some say get Now!
Thanks for advice ...u got nice rig ...just about what i want now! :nutkick:

zithe · Jun 24, 2010

erocker said:
I love new trim! Your current system is pretty good, however I'm biased and the new parts you want are very nice as well.. Perhaps just start with a 5870, try it out on your old system and go from there.

Don't wait for Bulldozer. There is no real information on it yet. I remember a lot of people saying "wait for Phenom" before the Phenom I's were out and that didn't turn out very well.

"wait for phenom ii" ended up pretty well, though. :laugh:

Lionheart · Jun 24, 2010

Do what erocker said, he pretty much said what I was gonna suggest :toast:

Tatty_Two · Jun 24, 2010

Could you try to avoid multiple posting with single questions, one post with several questions is much tidier

erocker · Jun 24, 2010

Tatty_One said:
Could you try to avoid multiple posting with single questions, one post with several questions is much tidier

Fixed.

GraveFiller said:
Yes, i'm getting build now don't wait, and wait till 2011 ur rigs not too bad...lol...guess i'll have to tab the yea's n' nays...see which comes out on top... thanks bro for your reply...

Yea, the ol' girlz still has some life left in her. - and about 50 gigs of porn too..heheheh

dON'T know anything about the phenom I's...what happened to it? bad shit i gather from your reply...
And yea, my system is very very fast still, i just love sata 6, usb 3.0, and overclocking that phenom II 1090T to 4.2 Ghz stable !!! on water probably 4.5!!!

I want the whole new thing only because the cpu is so so cheap! and will Oc to 4.5 ghz...!!!

Getting another headache now....gonna burn a fatty then rethink my options...lol..

This board is close to the Crosshair IV , I just love the heatpipes on her....and in tests it comes close and in some tests beat the
Crosshair IV....

Check ouit this site for info on 5 great AM3 mobo's for 890FX chipset..!!
go here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-890fx-crosshair-iv-formula-890fxa-ud7,2640.html

Thing is prices aren't going to go up. I would just go with the new video card for now. Test things out and see how you like the performance.

MohawkAngel · Jun 24, 2010

The new bulldozer is it still a AM3 socket? Cause i would like to put it on my M4A785-M. The fact is that this mobo only takes DDR2 so it would be a drawback I suppose. Even the 6cores would be drawn back i think because of ddr2. I dont care about video quality so my onboard hd4200 is ebough but ...ill maybe get the bulldozer use my phenom and mobo to build a lan box and have a kick ass media center with the bulldozer

erocker · Jun 24, 2010

MohawkAngel said:
The new bulldozer is it still a AM3 socket? Cause i would like to put it on my M4A785-M. The fact is that this mobo only takes DDR2 so it would be a drawback I suppose. Even the 6cores would be drawn back i think because of ddr2. I dont care about video quality so my onboard hd4200 is ebough but ...ill maybe get the bulldozer use my phenom and mobo to build a lan box and have a kick ass media center with the bulldozer

It will be AM3 socket according to a couple of sources. You'll pretty much have to wait until close to release of Bulldozer before any motherboard manufacturers list whether they will be compatible or not.

MohawkAngel · Jun 24, 2010

On your opinion will the ddr2 will be a drawback ? i mean for most of the time people who buy ddr3 and faster ...are just freaks about their benchmark. Whatever recent game you play and i heard the ddr2 800 is far enough from what i heard in local shops.

erocker · Jun 24, 2010

MohawkAngel said:
On your opinion will the ddr2 will be a drawback ? i mean for most of the time people who buy ddr3 and faster ...are just freaks about their benchmark. Whatever recent game you play and i heard the ddr2 800 is far enough from what i heard in local shops.

I actually have a hard time believing Bulldozer will work with DDR2 at all. Nobody has any idea how Bulldozer really works or how it will perform. It remains to be seen though.

MohawkAngel · Jun 25, 2010

ok so ill wait for a good deal on a quad core phenom while freaks go rush to buy the 6th cores and the bulldozer hehe

GraveFiller · Jun 25, 2010

Tatty_One said:
Could you try to avoid multiple posting with single questions, one post with several questions is much tidier

How on earth did that happen? I just logged in and saw like 6 posts on my one post....why did that happen tatty? :nutkick:

GraveFiller · Jun 25, 2010

erocker said:
Fixed.

Thing is prices aren't going to go up. I would just go with the new video card for now. Test things out and see how you like the performance.

I hear ya, that's what i'll do then, get video card and leave it at that, till i get another job.....jobless as of now..lol. :toast:

GraveFiller · Jun 25, 2010

MohawkAngel said:
ok so ill wait for a good deal on a quad core phenom while freaks go rush to buy the 6th cores and the bulldozer hehe

LOL..!

I'm just gonna get the vid card like erocker said......so count me as not 1 of the freaks! yet anywya..lol :toast:

Tatty_Two · Jun 25, 2010

GraveFiller said:
How on earth did that happen? I just logged in and saw like 6 posts on my one post....why did that happen tatty?

ERocker did it, I don't moderate this particular sub forum so i cannot amend or manipulate posts/threads, however he can as he moderates this one...... ther point being, no need to make 6 posts within a few minutes of each other, just add to first post it's much tidier.

GraveFiller · Jun 26, 2010

Tatty one, I just click quote on the post i reply too, and they all end up being together instead of attatched to the post i'm responding too....their should be a buttor reply to post..i don't know why they don't ....hence my posts just get grouped together when answering a reply.....you know what i'm sayin? if you can explain it to me....maybe it won't happen again.
Thaks~!

Tatty_Two · Jun 26, 2010

GraveFiller said:
Tatty one, I just click quote on the post i reply too, and they all end up being together instead of attatched to the post i'm responding too....their should be a buttor reply to post..i don't know why they don't ....hence my posts just get grouped together when answering a reply.....you know what i'm sayin? if you can explain it to me....maybe it won't happen again.
Thaks~!

Lol.... the "Multi Quote" button is your answer, that is what it is there for, if you use it, you can answer each question (quote) in just the one post.

Octopuss · Jun 26, 2010

Me, I will wait, because I want 32nm processor. Less heat ftw! And I do not want to go Intel way, because from what I could see, they aren't planning anything extremely interesting.

And my current P45-based machine is perfectly enough for my needs, performance-wise.

Timonthy · Jun 26, 2010

You could also get a 1090T now and wait for the 22nm Haswells. Or not.
XD

Octopuss · Jun 27, 2010

I know. The final decision was made after I asked myself whether I really need more performance right now or not. I mean I like digging in hardware, tweaking new machine, try some OC... But building new machine just for that? That's dumb.

GraveFiller · Jun 30, 2010

MohawkAngel said:
ok so ill wait for a good deal on a quad core phenom while freaks go rush to buy the 6th cores and the bulldozer hehe

Lol....your right, my rigs still sweet, i should just get the vid card, but your right...it's a freak type thang...i guess..lol... :nutkick:

System Name	Graves Rig
Processor	Q6680 GO @ 3.3Ghz
Motherboard	Asus P5k Deluxe wifi
Cooling	Zalman 9700 CpuFan
Memory	8GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer 8500/1066
Video Card(s)	EVGA Nvidia 8800GTX
Storage	1 WD-Raptor 160GB - 1 WD Caviar 500GB - 1 WD Black Caviar 1.5TB
Display(s)	Samsung 931BF 19inch Flat Screen
Case	Thermaltake Armor w/200MM side Fan
Audio Device(s)	Realtek onboard shizzz
Power Supply	SeaSonic M12-700W
Software	Windows 7 home premium
Benchmark Scores	3DMark06 Score = 13,664

System Name	Addison Clark
Processor	Ryzen 9 7950x3D delid
Motherboard	Asus X670E Hero
Cooling	Custom Bykski loop CPU, GPU, 2x 360 rads, and 1x 280 rad with Arctic P12 and P14 ARGB fans
Memory	G.Skill DDR5-6000 64GB CL30
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte 4090 Aorus Master
Storage	Kingston Fury 2TB and 4TB NVME
Display(s)	Samsung 57"
Case	Lian Li O11 mini
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Thermaltake 1000w SFX-L
Mouse	Corsair Dark Core RGB SE
Keyboard	Corsair K95 Platnium
Software	Win 11 Pro

System Name	About_To_Be_Replaced
Processor	AMD Deneb 955 OC to 3.82GHz
Motherboard	ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Memory	CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600
Video Card(s)	SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB
Storage	Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB SATA III (SSD)
Display(s)	Samsung 2770HD
Case	COOLER MASTER HAF 912 Mid Tower
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W
Software	Win 7 64 Bit Home Edition SP1
Benchmark Scores	Build 1: Listed Specs Build 2: Waiting for SteamRoller

System Name	Filtration tower
Processor	i9 7900@4.4ghz
Motherboard	ASRock X299 Taichi
Cooling	Air
Memory	64g 3200 quad channel
Video Card(s)	ASUS GTX 1080Ti
Storage	500gb Nvme, 200gb SSD, 1700gb HDD
Display(s)	34" Acer Predator 3440x1440
Case	Thermaltake v71
Power Supply	EVGA supernova 850 T2

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS TUF x670e
Cooling	EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans.
Memory	32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz
Video Card(s)	Asus RTX 4090
Storage	WD m.2
Display(s)	LG C2 Evo OLED 42"
Case	Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo
Audio Device(s)	Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp.
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W
Mouse	Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
Keyboard	Tester84
Software	Windows 11

Buy AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Or Wait for 32Nm Bulldozer?

GraveFiller

kenkickr

DanTheMan

BraveSoul

erocker

*

GraveFiller

zithe

Lionheart

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing

erocker

*

MohawkAngel

New Member

erocker

*

MohawkAngel

New Member

erocker

*

MohawkAngel

New Member

GraveFiller

GraveFiller

GraveFiller

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing

GraveFiller

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing

Octopuss

Timonthy

New Member

Octopuss

GraveFiller

System Name	Is rly gud
Processor	Intel Core i5 11600kf
Motherboard	Asus Prime Z590-V ATX
Memory	(48GB total) 16GB (2x8GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport 3000MHZ and G. Skill Ripjaws 32GB 3200MHZ (2x16GB)
Video Card(s)	GIGABYTE RTX 3060 12GB
Storage	1TB MSI Spatium M370 NVMe M.2 SSD
Display(s)	32" Viewsonic 4k, 34" Samsung 3440x1440, XP Pen Creative Pro 13.3
Power Supply	EVGA 600 80+ Gold
VR HMD	Meta Quest Pro, Tundra Trackers
Software	Windows 10

System Name	Boomer Master Race
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS APU
Motherboard	BareBones Mini PC MB
Cooling	Mini PC Cooling
Memory	Crucial 32GB 4800MHz
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 680M 8GB IGPU
Storage	Crucial 500GB M.2 SSD + 2TB Ext HDD
Display(s)	Sony 4K Bravia X85J 43Inch TV 120Hz
Case	Beelink Mini PC Chassis
Audio Device(s)	Built In Realtek Digital Audio HD
Power Supply	120w Power Brick
Mouse	Logitech G203 Lightsync
Keyboard	Atrix RGB Slim Keyboard
VR HMD	( ◔ ʖ̯ ◔ )
Software	Windows 10 Home 64bit
Benchmark Scores	Don't do them anymore.

Processor	Rocket Lake Core i5 11600K @ 5 Ghz with PL tweaks
Motherboard	MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK
Cooling	Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE + 4 Phanteks 140mm case fans
Memory	32GB (4 x 8GB SR) Patriot Viper Steel 4133Mhz DDR4 @ 3600Mhz CL14@1.45v Gear 1
Video Card(s)	Asus Dual RTX 4070 OC
Storage	WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 NVME//Crucial MX500 500GB SSD (OS)
Display(s)	AOC Q2781PQ 27 inch Ultra Slim 2560 x 1440 IPS
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal
Audio Device(s)	Onboard Realtek ALC1200/SPDIF to Sony AVR @ 5.1
Power Supply	Seasonic CORE GM650w Gold Semi modular
Mouse	Coolermaster Storm Octane wired
Keyboard	Element Gaming Carbon Mk2 Tournament Mech
Software	Win 10 Home x64

Processor	Ryzen 5800X
Motherboard	Asus TUF-Gaming B550-Plus
Cooling	Noctua NH-U14S
Memory	32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Radeon Rx 580 Nitro+ 8GB
Storage	HP EX950 512GB + Samsung 970 PRO 1TB
Display(s)	HP Z Display Z24i G2
Case	Fractal Design Define R6 Black
Audio Device(s)	Creative Sound Blaster AE-5
Power Supply	Seasonic PRIME Ultra 650W Gold
Mouse	Roccat Kone AIMO Remastered
Software	Windows 10 x64

Processor	Athlon 64 X2 5200+ @Stock
Motherboard	Gigabyte M61PME-S2 AM2
Cooling	Stock AMD
Memory	Kingston 2GB DDR2-800 *1
Video Card(s)	EVGA 8600GT
Storage	Random Seagate 250GB SATA
Display(s)	NEC 1970GX/eMachines E211H
Case	Resused HP case