TPU's GTX460 Club

[Techtu]

That is soooo odd! If I turn of vsync i get 99% usage ALL the time. That's on both the AMD & the Intel rig. Maybe a clean Windows installation might be in order.

Strangely enough I turned Vsync off to see what I'd get... I'm getting the same result's as r9

 

[Calle2003]

Yes it is New Vegas Sorry .
The utilization is bad in other games also. The things is that those games run smoothly even with 60% util. I just assumed that there is some frame limit that is making the game runs smooth and not torchering the GPU at the same time. If I try more games I think that more games would show the same output.

And if pay close attention on the screen 60% is not constant at all and most of the time is at 30% and less. So 60% is peek.
And I did driver sweeper for ATI.


Here it is the utilization:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38892&stc=1&d=1289428545

I have the same problem with vsync.
Wait for a new driver from Nvidia, since 260.99 fixed some problems with New Vegas there are certainly more.

Nvidia v260.99
- Increases performance vs. v260.89 drivers in the following PC games: Civilization V (SLI), Fallout 3, Final Fantasy XIV and F1 2010 (DX11).
- Adds SLI profiles for Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II and Fallout: New Vegas
- Improves compatibility for Fallout 3: New Vegas with antialiasing enabled.
- Improves Alt-Tab compatibility for several PC games.

 

[Hayder_Master]

add me
2x zotac GTX460 with 2G each , and i will upload some tests soon

 

[Shou Miko]

add me
2x zotac GTX460 with 2G each , and i will upload some tests soon

added

 

[newtekie1]

Add me to the list.

Here is my mine-review I did: [Mini-Review] eVGA GTX460 1GB EE vs. eVGA GTX470

Question for those who are uncapping the voltage. What are your mosfet area temperatures, if you know? I fear uncapping the voltage is going to bake the GTX460s that don't have mosfet cooling. I've got some enzotech coolers ordered to put on mine before I do any overvolting beyond the 1087 stock maximum.

I don't think I ever got added.

 

[Shou Miko]

I don't think I ever got added.

also added now, i dunno why i didn't added you, maybe bcs i though you ONLY made a review on the card and not using it in ur machine, bcs u have a GTX470 ^^;

 

[Andrea87]

I'm making a little different version of the first page user list, made it as text, to be quoted as code:

+-----------------------+-----------------------------------------------+---------------+-------------------------------+
| USER			| CARD						| COOLING	| CLOCKS AND VOLTAGE 	        |
+-----------------------+-----------------------------------------------+---------------+-------------------------------+
| puma99dk| 		| MSI N460GTX HAWK 1GB				| STOCK		| 900/1900/1800 @ 1.125v  	|
| OnBoard 		| Gigabyte GV-N460OC-1GI			| STOCK		| 830/1660/2010 @ ?		|
| JrRacinFan		| EVGA GTX460 					| STOCK		| 845/1690/2000 @ 0.987V  	|
| Arctucas		| 2xEVGA GTX460 SC EE 1GB SLi			| STOCK		| 875/1750/2200 @ 0.987V  	|
| mstenholm		| MSI N460GTX Cyclone 768D5/OC			| STOCK		| 850/1700/1800 @ ?	  	|
| The Witcher		| 2xEVGA GTX460 SC EE 1GB SLi			| STOCK		| 868/1735/2150 @ ?	  	|
| Boneface 		| 2xGigabyte GV-N460OC-768I SLi			| STOCK		| 875/1750/1950 @ 1.012V  	|
| Inioch 		| Gigabyte GV-N460OC-1GI			| STOCK		| 715/1430/1800 @ 0.987V	|
| Flak 			| Galaxy GeForce GTX460 GC 1GB			| STOCK		| 840/1680/2000 @ ?	  	|
| aedubber 		| 2xEVGA GTX460 SC EE 1GB SLi			| WATER 	| 880/1760/2201 @ 1.087V  	|
| boulard83		| Asus GTX460 DirectCU 1gb (PhysX Only)		| STOCK		|			  	|
| erek 			| EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SuperClocked 768MB	| STOCK		| 763/1526/1900 @ ?		|
| burtram 		| Sparkle GTX 460 768mb				| STOCK		| 876/1752/2050 @ ?	  	|
| bogmali		| 2xSPARKLE GTX 460 1GB				| STOCK		| 775/9550/1876 @ 1.025V	|
| kurosagi		| KFA2 EX OC GTX 460 768mb			| STOCK		| 700/1400/1848			|
| Tech2 		| MSI N460GTX Cyclone 1GB			| STOCK		|			  	|
| Calle2003		| MSI N460GTX Cyclone 1GB			| STOCK		| 850/1700/2000 @ ?	  	|
| qu4k3r 		| Sparkle GTX 460 768mb				| STOCK		|			  	|
| Jeffredo 		| PNY GTX 460 1024MB				| STOCK		| 820/1640/2000 @ ?	  	|
| King Wookie 		| ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP 768mb			| STOCK		|			  	|
| Andrea87 		| MSI N460GTX Cyclone 1GB			| STOCK		| 900/1800/2150 @ 1.075v	|
| hayder.master 	| 2xZOTAC GeForce GTX 460 2GB			| STOCK		| 			  	|
| newtekie1 		| EVGA GTX460 1GB EE				| STOCK		| 875/1750/2150 @ ? 	  	|
| Techtu		| MSI N460GTX Cyclone 1GB			| STOCK		| 935/1870/2070 @ 1.087v	|
+-----------------------+-----------------------------------------------+---------------+-------------------------------+

will update it soon with every user's data from their profile.

added more users, will add the others as I parse the thread. If you want yourself added, copy this text in a plain text editor (notepad++, textpad, notepad) and edit it leaving the spacing as it is, then post here only your line quoting it as "code".

 

[kurosagi01]

Nice chart there Andrea i can tell you my stock settings are:
700/1400/1848

 

[Techtu]

My clocks are in the pic

 

[newtekie1]

also added now, i dunno why i didn't added you, maybe bcs i though you ONLY made a review on the card and not using it in ur machine, bcs u have a GTX470 ^^;

Ah, yeah I'm using a GTX470 in my main rig, but I now have SLi GTX460s in my second.

 

[Andrea87]

Some good improvements here... I'm trying my card at 900/1800/2150MHz @ 1.075V and it looks stable... Today in the morning I've got some fans inside a shipment for a friend's build, and one 12cm for me... Jigsaw time then! I've opened a hole on the left side of my case, where before I had a small 8cm quiet fan, with its airflow somewhat limited by the case mesh too. After fitting the new larger fan with nothing to obstruct its airflow, temperatures dropped rather seriously. Even if run at low rpm (actually I'm reading 900rpm) the added airflow does very well its work.

Furmark, 875/1750/2150 @ 1.045V, old 8cm fan -> 76-77°C
Furmark, 875/1750/2150 @ 1.045V, cut 12cm fan -> 67-68°C
Furmark, 900/1800/2150 @ 1.075V, cut 12cm fan -> 71-72°C.

All those temps were made with the card's fan set to be controlled directly by afterburner, no ways getting over 65% of its speed. If you are having temp issues, check your airflow first Those cards do make some heat, bad air circulation ends into having an hot air bubble around your card keeping it hot

will post some pics soon.

edited my chart of user's cards here TPU's GTX460 Club

 

[Andrea87]

Added some pics done today, cleaning up the card then adding some cooling to the vrms.

Sexy Hardware Close-Up Pic Clubhouse.

 

[Techtu]

By the way Andrea87, I'm in the chart twice, you may want to delete the old user name I went by "Tech2" rather than Techtu.

 

[Andrea87]

By the way Andrea87, I'm in the chart twice, you may want to delete the old user name I went by "Tech2" rather than Techtu.

Andrea what paste are you using and could you let me know your temps with old paste and new paste at both idle and full load please?

it's great that someone with a good camera is taking shots of the same card I have, just makes me drool a little more

I will edit the chart soon, adding some other users I've found in the thread.

as for the thermal paste, I'm running prolimatech pk-1 now. I've ordered it some days ago, after discovering I could not find anymore the large 20g tube of Mx-2 that is probably lost somewhere in the mess of my garage. Goddamn, I must recover it! 20g of that paste cannot be just lost that way

Talking about temps idle and full, I'm idling at 24-26°C, load never over 58-60, furmark reaches 70-71°C. This with the new paste, a large fan on the side of my case and 1.075V being put into the core. Before, with the small fan, 1.037V, old paste and such I was idling at something like 30c, load 65 and furmark 76-77°C. Ambient temperature 18-19°c.
If I open the case now, disconnecting the large fan blowing on the card, idle temperatures rise from 24-26 to 30-31°C. indeed the fan has made much.

Next week I'll get also some mx3, aside with an order of parts for a friend's pc. might test it too.

This is the actual inside of the case: (there is a network card between the vga and the sound card, I've removed it to improve air circulation)

as for fans, there are two intake ones on the front of the case, one 8cm near the hard drives, one 12cm suspended with cable ties over the dvd burner, two push-out ones on the rear (12 cm zalman one + power supply) and one intake on the side panel, placed just facing the gpu in the bottom left corner of the panel.

 

[Techtu]

Was worth applying the new paste then

I'm considering it but I don't think I'd get my idle temps down at all, depending if it's day or night depends on my idle tempps but in the day it idles at 26 - 27 but at night it goes down to around 22 - 23 degrees, and my load temps are around the same as your old ones (that is with my set overclock added though ) doesn't seem to make too much difference if I up the clocks on the card, I guess chassis cooling is just as important

 

[Andrea87]

chassis cooling is FUNDAMENTAL. tooking the side panel off, and so stopping the intake fan, takes my temps up by 5°C. Thermal paste aids a bit, and only where the Δt between the air near the card and the cooler fins is large enough. The hotter the air near the card, lesser will be the temperature difference (Δt), less transfer will then be made, giving you higher temps on the card. With our cards dropping exaust inside the case, if we leave that hot air where it is it will create a "bubble" of hot air keeping temperatures rather high.

 

[Shou Miko]

A liitle much you think?

you only have it in idle, if u don't push it you never now if it can handle it

atm i am testing my card over 12mins in MSI Kombustor at core 975mhz shader 1950mhz @ Core Voltage (mV) 1.212v and Aux Voltage (mV) +30 and it's max 72c and have fan from the side @ 1800rpm and hanging over it about 2400rpm to see if i can get 1Ghz Core Clock

 

[Jeffredo]

I was a little worried about my purchase shortly after I made it. Every forum I visited said "Wait for ATI's new cards, they'll be so much better". I'm not sorry or disappointed after seeing reviews of the HD 6850/6870. While good cards, the GTX 460 1GB easily competes with just a run-of-the-mill overclock (plus the reference cooler like I have is a lot quieter than either of those). I primarily bought this card to be able to max all in game quality settings in Fallout New Vegas and it easily can and maintains about 50-60 FPS almost everywhere.

 

[Shou Miko]

the GTX460 1GB is a nice card, and it does the job nicely and almost every card can handle 800/1000/1600mhz on stock voltage which are awesome for does who ain't in to much overclocking.

i luv my MSI N460GTX Hawk, i just got the bios uncapped but still i think i will go for 900/1000/1800mhz when i am gaming, and with Core Voltage (mV) +30, Memory Voltage (mV) 0 and Aux Voltage (mV) 0 in MSI Afterburner i am pretty happy with that, i dunno if it can do more, but seriously i am not gonna kill my card i want it to last long ^^;

 

[Techtu]

the GTX460 1GB is a nice card, and it does the job nicely and almost every card can handle 800/1000/1600mhz on stock voltage which are awesome for does who ain't in to much overclocking.

i luv my MSI N460GTX Hawk, i just got the bios uncapped but still i think i will go for 900/1000/1800mhz when i am gaming, and with Core Voltage (mV) +30, Memory Voltage (mV) 0 and Aux Voltage (mV) 0 in MSI Afterburner i am pretty happy with that, i dunno if it can do more, but seriously i am not gonna kill my card i want it to last long ^^;

I have two word's for you

... Do it, Doo it, DO IT!

These MSI card's seem to have a little more in them, originally I only went with MSI because I wanted the same colour PCB as my motherboard, turn's out that wasn't where the goodness stopped, I've got my card on 830mhz core with stock volts and have pushed it all the way up to 940mhz @1.087v that's it very limit unless I unlocked the volts but I can't see me doing that anytime soon.

 

[EwX]

I plan to get Sparkle GTX460 1GB and slap Accelero S1 rev2 + 12cm fan on it.
Do reference GTX460 1GB makes any noise/high pitch sound from it's PCB components ?

As my HD4850 broke, for a backup card i got 6600GT and it makes annoying high pitch noise at IDLE and it gets worse when card runs at higher load.

 

[Andrea87]

my card doesn't make any sound apart a nearly inaudible fan. There are no solid core inductor on these cards, then there should not be any problem with vibrations. Do you already have the accelero s1? I don't think its compatible with the 460, both due to its mounting plate and its power dissipation capability. If you're going to buy a new card, I'll get one with the custom cooling, maybe the msi cyclone version many of us are using, its pretty silent thanks to the 9cm fan taking care of the heat. It runs rather cold too, with some heavy oc under furmark I'm not going over 70°C.

 

[erocker]

I plan to get Sparkle GTX460 1GB and slap Accelero S1 rev2 + 12cm fan on it.
Do reference GTX460 1GB makes any noise/high pitch sound from it's PCB components ?

As my HD4850 broke, for a backup card i got 6600GT and it makes annoying high pitch noise at IDLE and it gets worse when card runs at higher load.

The high pitched squeal noise isn't limited to a series of cards. It can happen to any card, any brand and any series. You 6600GT has a squealing cap/resistor or something. So someones 460 might make the noise. Mine doesn't.

 

[EwX]

My PC case is open and it stands on the table ~0.8meter away from my ears.
That high pitched noise is the loudest thing that comes from the pc setup.

Andrea87, thanks for pointing out Accelero S1 compatibility issue with GTX460,I haven't noticed that myself i'll search then something else with better custom cooler.

 

[Andrea87]

There are some cards you can consider on the custom cooler side:

Msi n460gtx cyclone 1gb:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GTX_460_Cyclone_OC_1_GB/

Gigabyte GV-N460OC
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3393/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_460_1gb_oc_video_card/index.html

Asus DirectCU Gtx460
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_460_DirectCu/

Msi n460GTX Hawk
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/

Look at their reviews, between those four I've chosen the cyclone 1gb version from msi, due to good quality components, large cooler and low noise.