The HD 5970 Clubhouse

[DRDNA]

Hey will the 5970 fit in a >> COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1 ???
Better yet would TWO 5970's fit?


COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel ...

 

[sttubs]

Hey will the 5970 fit in a >> COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1 ???
Better yet would TWO 5970's fit?


COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel ...

I have the 922 & my 5970 fits just fine, it looks to have room for two without any problems.

 

[Avidean]

Bios update for 5970

Hi,

I was wondering about this Bios update?
Should I apply it to my referance 5970?
I have had the voltage up to 1300mv
The mem up to 1440
and the core up to 960
the card never goes above 83 degrees
GPU one intermittently drops to 550mhz
I have done nothing to the card except update the drivers to 10.11
Is the bios update only for Sapphire cards or will it work on any 5970?

 

[Black Panther]

Hi,

I was wondering about this Bios update?
Should I apply it to my referance 5970?
I have had the voltage up to 1300mv
The mem up to 1440
and the core up to 960
the card never goes above 83 degrees
GPU one intermittently drops to 550mhz
I have done nothing to the card except update the drivers to 10.11
Is the bios update only for Sapphire cards or will it work on any 5970?

Hi, welcome to the club and welcome to TPU!

I stand to be corrected but as far as I know any brand bios can be applied as long as it's of the same type of card (in this case 5970).

However, I believe that if it ain't broken don't fix it
(Or unless a different bios would enable you to overclock higher or something... I'm no expert on vga bioses)

I flashed my Sapphire's bios only because the stock bios gave me problems while in 2D mode. I used to have artifacting as if the card itself was dying, and the driver used to stop working every 10 seconds. Such things happen when you buy a card fresh upon release... the bios of later cards didn't create this problem

I solved this temporarily by increasing my idle clocks - but this meant more power consumption in idle, and to top it all drivers later than the 10.4 didn't enable me to do this - my memory remained at 1010Mhz. Flashing the bios was the only real and permanent solution and now I'm enjoying a flawless card.

 

[Avidean]

Ok,

Does the bios update make it possible for your card to overclock to 1010mhz or could you reach that manually before the bios? I can get 960 or 970 but it crashes with Furmark

 

[Black Panther]

My card's a factory overclocked Sapphire. The overclock is minimal 735/1010 (note the 1010 is for the memory not the GPU!!!

To be honest I haven't yet tried overclocking this card - it does well with current games and since my processor is a dual core I'd be bottlenecking it even further.

I suggest you wait for some more replies if you wish to know more about bios flashing and its relevance on overclocking

 

[fullinfusion]

The bios is for the Sapphire oc 5970 version card. I my self flashed to the new bios and I was (am) able to get 1000 MHz core and 1300+ on the memory with voltage settings.

This bios indeed is far superior then the factory released bios. My clocks were minimum to say the least.
As far as I know that bios is just for the OC edition gpu's

But if you feel like reading im sure you can find your answer HERE

 

[Avidean]

Seems straight forward but apart from changing the clocks and voltage do these bios flashes make it possible to get higher OC's and do they do away with the card down clocking to 550mhz if the temp goes over 83 degrees. Generally, can I expect improved OC and stability with these new bios?

 

[Black Panther]

do they do away with the card down clocking to 550mhz if the temp goes over 83 degrees

I just ran a Furmark for 3 minutes - the card just reached 83 degrees. Seeing GPU-Z the clocks didn't drop at all from my 735/1010.

I'll try running Furmark with post fx and in xtreme burning mode to get a higher temperature, then post a screenshot of gpu-z.......

Edit:

3 minutes, with post fx and xtreme burning mode got me 88-89 degrees, and card doesn't downclock to 550mhz.

 

[Avidean]

The card has a safety feature that when it gets over a certain temp under load GPU 2 clocks down to 550MHZ thus reducing the performance of the card! I remember reading some reveiws when the card came out first criticising this because it effectively prevents overclocking the card beyond the point where this safety feature kicks in. In the case of my card it is 82 or 83 degrees. See the sceen shot. I was wondering if doing a bios flash will remove this this safety feature or increase the temp the it kicks in at since I understand the card is safe up to 100 Degrees! Also will the bios flash improve stability when OC'ed? From what I can tell from The Real-Gamers posts. These bios flashes will work on any 5970 brand so long as one correctly identifies which is the master GPU and which is the slave!

 

[fullinfusion]

The card has a safety feature that when it gets over a certain temp under load GPU 2 clocks down to 550MHZ thus reducing the performance of the card! I remember reading some reveiws when the card came out first criticising this because it effectively prevents overclocking the card beyond the point where this safety feature kicks in. In the case of my card it is 82 or 83 degrees. See the sceen shot. I was wondering if doing a bios flash will remove this this safety feature or increase the temp the it kicks in at since I understand the card is safe up to 100 Degrees! Also will the bios flash improve stability when OC'ed? From what I can tell from The Real-Gamers posts. These bios flashes will work on any 5970 brand so long as one correctly identifies which is the master GPU and which is the slave!

For 1 please fill in your system details ok!

And for me... I can clock to beat Hell with this new Bios. But be warned.... this Bios is just for the Sapphire OC 5970 gpu.

Experimenters be warned.... use caution as this bios is written for Sapphire OC 5970's

Good luck and keep us informed

 

[jbkappirossi]

hi guys, iv'e bought an Sapphire 5970OC a few days ago. But i'am douting that its working propperly, so i need your help?

The strange thing i notest is that in 2D gpu1 is running at 157/400 and gpu2 at 400/1010.
Sometimes gpu1 jumps to 735 and hangs there. and sometimes they bolth are running like they should be at 157/400 157/400. I don't get why the clocks or fluctuading at 2d if someone could tell me that?

Another thing is that it seems to be not muts of an improvement to my old 5850.
i tried metro 2033 and can't run it at maximum settings DX11 at 1200p. But in vatange i'le get 24k score.

And i got some random Freezes is this common ? and a few black screens when prompt to a game after the loading was done. windows automaticly recovers from the black screen but not the freeze.

And i can't controle the fan speed in afterburner or CCC, if i enable it to manual, than it janks up to 100% fanspeed and slowely decreases to 25 or 30%.

Final question, why dose furmark just stress one GPU core and not bolth. Because afterburner an GPU-Z showed that only GPU one is at 735mhz. and GPU two at 157mhz.

i dont' get those things, can someone explane that to me please? because beginning to think its broke.

Oh i've tried CCC 10.4 10.5 10.11 ,al the same problem whit the 2D clocks. only difference i notest is that 10.4 gives a lower temp readout.


System spec;

i7 930
Gigabyte UD7
6gb hyperX 1600C8
2 x 500gb F3 raid0
Corsair HX750
synchmaster T240HD 1200x1920 60HZ connected whit HDMI cabel to DVI adapter to 5970.

 

[t_ski]

hi guys, iv'e bought an Sapphire 5970OC a few days ago. But i'am douting that its working propperly, so i need your help?

The strange thing i notest is that in 2D gpu1 is running at 157/400 and gpu2 at 400/1010.
Sometimes gpu1 jumps to 735 and hangs there. and sometimes they bolth are running like they should be at 157/400 157/400. I don't get why the clocks or fluctuading at 2d if someone could tell me that?

Power-saving feature. This is normal.

Another thing is that it seems to be not muts of an improvement to my old 5850.
i tried metro 2033 and can't run it at maximum settings DX11 at 1200p. But in vatange i'le get 24k score.

Decent score for Vantage says that the card is working. I don't play Metro 2033, but I tried the demo. Even with dual 5970's, the game was choppy. I suspect it doesn't play well with Crossfire, or that the settings need to be loosened up to play the game more smoothly.

And i got some random Freezes is this common ? and a few black screens when prompt to a game after the loading was done. windows automaticly recovers from the black screen but not the freeze.

I think you may have a similar bug that many others have seen on the Sapphire 5970 OC. However, the good news is that this is easily fixable with a BIOS flash. Search this thread for posts by fullinfusion for links to the BIOS update.

And i can't controle the fan speed in afterburner or CCC, if i enable it to manual, than it janks up to 100% fanspeed and slowely decreases to 25 or 30%.

Can't say, as I don't mess with the fan speed on mine.

Final question, why dose furmark just stress one GPU core and not bolth. Because afterburner an GPU-Z showed that only GPU one is at 735mhz. and GPU two at 157mhz.

You're running the Furmark for one core. There is a Multi-GPU version of Furmark that will stress all of your cores.

 

[jbkappirossi]

wel thanks for the quicke responce, you just made my day,
I was frietent that it was broke, never looked if there was a dual gpu furmark, thanks again.

 

[Black Panther]

Hey, welcome to TPU and welcome to the 5970 club here

Please post a gpu-z screenshot so we can see which bios version you have.

I'm sure you have a good bios version - if you had the bad sapphire one available on release early this year you'd be having your driver quitting every minute unless you found a way to increase your 2d clocks and not have them 157/300 (believe me I went through it).

Regards Metro.... well it's a 'freak' game. Same as Oblivion had been in 2006 and as Crysis was in 2009. It's a game which makes graphic cards bleed.

At your resolution of 1920x1200 here is the result which was gotten during benchmarking comparisons done by this website's owner W1zzard:

At 1920x1200 the 5870 gets ~16fps average (which is bad), while the 5970 gets ~22fps average (which is still bad).
For me anything lower than 45 fps kills my eyes.

I got a 2560x1440 monitor recently and I just didn't dare see how Metro would run at those resolutions!!

The only solution for Metro is to either to do without AA, or don't play at 1920x1200 but try a lower resolution.

I had played Metro using my 5970 but at 1680x1050 on the LG monitor I had before this Dell, with no AA and the game was very playable, most of the time it was above 35 fps...

Moreover, if you play the game without occlusion and without the other dx11 effects you'd barely notice the difference and your fps would shoot up high.

 

[jbkappirossi]

hi thanks for the reply, wel the guy where i've got the card from sad it was 6 months old.
wel as you can see now the damn card is running at the right speed as it should.

wel i've alreddy downloaded this version, but not sure its the right one for me; VER012.020.000.019.000000 C0001OCM
And driver sweeper 2.7.5
And ati flash 3.84
And a 2gb usb flash drive
Do i need some more tools ?
And than i need to figure out how to extualy flash the card.

Edit; can someone tell me what flashtool i need to make a bootable usb drive.

 

[t_ski]

There are two BIOS files you will need: one for the master and one for the slave. As I said, if you searched this thread for posts by fullinfusion, you would have found this:

Sapphire 5970 owners *all is fixed*

Please read it all before you come back, then ask questions. I'm not trying to be mean, it's just that all the information is there.

 

[Black Panther]

What I did was first create a bootable USB then I used, these 2 files one being the atiflash and the other containing the bios:

(If you want the bootable usb creator I'll email it to you since it is .rar and I can't upload it as an attachment)

 

[jbkappirossi]

thanks guys i now know how to flash it. but stil not sure how to make a bootable usb drive.
and than how to format it in the right way.

So yes pleas if you can mail it, my hotmail; jbkappirossi@live.nl

 

[Black Panther]

thanks guys i now know how to flash it. but stil not sure how to make a bootable usb drive.
and than how to format it in the right way.

So yes pleas if you can mail it, my hotmail; jbkappirossi@live.nl

give me 2 minutes..

Edit: Sent - make sure your bios is set to boot from USB before doing it

 

[jbkappirossi]

thanks i think am up for it, done this so far.

so now i need to uninstal CCC, then run driver sweeper in safe mode.
Than change boot priority to usb in bios. And than i need to type the commands;
atiflash -p 0 C0001OCM.AC1 -f [enter] (if 0 is master and than),
atiflash -p 1 C0001OCS.AC1 -f [enter] done. i think

Wel i'm back whit my 5850, i think it broke down just a few seconds ago.
I was uninstalling CCC them was askt to restart windows oke, an after that it never booted again.
Every single time i got a BSOD between the windows 7 logo and the welcome screen.
And i havent even flasht it yet damn.

So i'm going to install CCC again and than cange te card again en see if it boots than.

 

[Black Panther]

1) Make your bios to boot from USB.

2) Boot from USB and type atiflash -i so you know which gpu is master and which is slave...

3) Type

atiflash -p 0 C0001OCM.AC1 -f

(and press enter to do the master gpu)

[restart pc]

atiflash -p 1 C0001OCS.AC1 -f

(and press enter to do the slave gpu)

[restart pc]

Edit:

Wut??

Wel i'm back whit my 5850, i think it broke down just a few seconds ago.
I was uninstalling CCC them was askt to restart windows oke, an after that it never booted again.
Every single time i got a BSOD between the windows 7 logo and the welcome screen.
And i havent even flasht it yet damn.

So i'm going to install CCC again and than cange te card again en see if it boots than.

Try doing it in safe mode??

 

[jbkappirossi]

ffeewwww wel its not broken. but i had to put my 5850 back than install ccc than put back the 59 and windows starts without a BSOD. i dont get it

 

[Black Panther]

ffeewwww wel its not broken. but i had to put my 5850 back than install ccc than put back the 59 and windows starts without a BSOD. i dont get it

Unless it quits mid-flash you got nothing to worry about

 

[jbkappirossi]

woooooohoooooo i think i've don it. but gpu-z showes two differt versions of gpu1 and gpu2.

the hardest thing actually was getting the bios right to boot from usb,
my UD7 mobo has quid a few settings.

And thanks again couldn't have don it without you guys.
Now lets see what this puppy can do whit the refferrence cooler.
And hope that it is stable now.