LCD or plasma?

[Wile E]

But he has no evidence to back that it's half-life either, and Panasonic's documentation sure doesn't mention it being half life.

And he even mentions that image retention is still a problem with static images.

We work all 3 shifts in my house, the TV is on nearly 24/7. LCD is still the more robust technology it seems.

 

[BumbleBee]

I watch 6 hours of television a day lol

maybe your brother can return the television or get a new one to break in properly. I don't think he is past his warranty.

 

[Wile E]

That's another thing, these aren't headphones, where breaking them in would be unobtrusive. Having to break in a TV for hours on end is ridiculous.

Maybe they should design a plasma that doesn't need it instead, or perhaps break them in before shipping them.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Just googling I'm seeing people referring to the 100,000 hours as the half life, but not the source they're getting it from.

Edit* Saw it in a press thingy.
"plasma panels to offer an effective screen half-life of 100,000 hours, or over 30 years of TV viewing"

 

[BumbleBee]

you don't need to break a Plasma in hence the serious strides. I think if he had the opportunity to receive a new U2 model he would option it.

 

[Wile E]

No, if he can take it back, he's getting another LCD.

Until the burn in problem is completely non-existent, he will never get another plasma.

 

[BumbleBee]

I was talking about breaking it in. the moral of the story is don't treat your television like you scratch your scrotum!

 

[Wile E]

I know what you were talking about, he thinks that idea is preposterous as well, but I was commenting on 2 different topics in my post. Break in, and images burning in.

And I quite enjoy scratching my scrotum, tyvm.

 

[n-ster]

100 000 hours IS HALF-LIFE

but some cheap plasmas do have 60 000 hours half-life. I just can't find if the U2 is 60 or 100 though

P.S: I scratch my scrotum very gently

 

[Wile E]

100 000 hours IS HALF-LIFE

Please provide evidence.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:UkqeVFhWVOcJ:www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/News/Latest%2BNews/Panasonic%2Bat%2BIFA%2B2010/Panasonic%2Bto%2BShowcase%2BFull%2BHD%2B3D%2BTechnology%2Bat%2BIFA/5752370/index.html+panasonic+2010+half+life&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Seems panasonic said it somewhere.

 

[n-ster]

1- Panasonic has never done 50 000 hours half-life for one thing, it was from 30 000 to 60000 to 100 000

2- The panel life of a plasma is VERY long, at 10% brightness, it degrades less quickly and the panel technically is still "alive"

3- 100 000 hours half-life is advertised everywhere ex: In this product description (note idk if this means the U2 to be 100 000 hours or not, as this is "up to", therefore different models with different half-lives)

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Panasonic+plasma+100000+hours+half-life

 

[caleb]

One thing I noticed and is pretty evil is those crisping electronics built into some LCD panels. They almost make the image look artificial and It might fool you against Plasma image that the LCD is more crisp etc. It looks fkn good but I don't think you will like the artificial movement of characters for a longer period. Who cares about its life if you'll buy a new one within 4 years.

 

[Wile E]

1- Panasonic has never done 50 000 hours half-life for one thing, it was from 30 000 to 60000 to 100 000

2- The panel life of a plasma is VERY long, at 10% brightness, it degrades less quickly and the panel technically is still "alive"

3- 100 000 hours half-life is advertised everywhere ex: In this product description (note idk if this means the U2 to be 100 000 hours or not, as this is "up to", therefore different models with different half-lives)

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Panasonic+plasma+100000+hours+half-life

Product descriptions don't count to me, but the post above yours covered it anyway, straight from a Panasonic press release.

I still take issue with it, however, as a 50% reduction is not acceptably viewable, like they claim.

How long to a noticeable reduction?

 

[Brilford Wimley]

Plasma is the 4th state of matter. Who doesn't want that?

 

[oily_17]

For some info from Panasonic about energy efficiency and life of LCD/Plasma screens, see here -

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/271546/index.html

 

[n-ster]

16 hours a day, 365.25 days a year, 100 000 hours 1/2 life, assuming it is linear:

20~25% loss of brightness(75~80% life) = 40 000 ~ 50 000 hrs

40~50K hrs divided by (16 hours a day * 365.25 days / yr) = 6.84 years ~ 8.56 years

Depending on how much brightness loss you accept, 7~8 years




This seems acceptable to me

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

For some info from Panasonic about energy efficiency and life of LCD/Plasma screens, see here -

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/271546/index.html

They aren't kidding about that twice as long as crt bit. In retrospect my crts died a lot. Every crt me and my friend had would fade and blur. Aside from my desk breaking under the weight of it (75lb limit), that's one of the main reason I'd pass on one of those used widescreen trinitrons. Sure it'd be mind blowingly sharp and color accurate, but only when it was brand new. The $200 used ebay ones are gonna be worn out crap.

 

[Lionheart]

LED FTW

 

[qubit]

They aren't kidding about that twice as long as crt bit. In retrospect my crts died a lot. Every crt me and my friend had would fade and blur. Aside from my desk breaking under the weight of it (75lb limit), that's one of the main reason I'd pass on one of those used widescreen trinitrons. Sure it'd be mind blowingly sharp and color accurate, but only when it was brand new. The $200 used ebay ones are gonna be worn out crap.

I know exactly what you mean. The fuzziness creeps up on you and you end up thinking it's your eyes at first, which is very annoying. At least none of the newer types fail this way.

 

[BlackMagic]

Hmmm...

Source: http://www.ultimateavmag.com/

Just saying!!!

 

[qubit]

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o48/SSF_BlackMagic/PlasmaorLCD.jpg

Source: http://www.ultimateavmag.com/

Just saying!!!

I think you meant the link below. You've linked to the front page and it looks like you want the article on plasma v LCD, which has slipped down the page.

www.ultimateavmag.com/content/do-you-prefer-plasma-or-lcd-tvs

 

[Red_Machine]

If you mostly do standard def stuff, plasma is better as it doesn't technically have a native resolution. LCDs do, and anything other than native res will look off, ESPECIALLY standard def.

 

[BlackMagic]

I think you meant the link below. You've linked to the front page and it looks like you want the article on plasma v LCD, which has slipped down the page.

www.ultimateavmag.com/content/do-you-prefer-plasma-or-lcd-tvs

Whoops, sorry.

Good catch.

 

[HookeyStreet]

personally, I like LG or Samsung LCD TVS. Even better than that is an LG or Samsung LED LCD TV

My son has a cheapy BUSH 19" LED LCD in his bedroom. His console looks great on it