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Sandy Bridge - Biggest Disappointment of the Year

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Sandy Bridge is the biggest disappointment of the year
January 2, 2011


SANDY BRIDGE WAS shaping up to be the killer CPU of the year, a huge step forward in the 'uncore', decent graphics and big gains in the core as well. Instead, we got broken graphics, non-working feature sets, and a showstopper bug. What a shattering disappointment...............

LINK:
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2011/01/02/sandy-bridge-biggest-disapointment-year/
 

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wow January 3rd and he has had his worst of the year....lol
 

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wow January 3rd and he has had his worst of the year....lol

Give it time, I'm sure he will find something from nVidia to replace it shortly.:roll:

Plus, he bases his entire essesment of it "failing" on the fact that there are no GPU drivers for Linux yet. Intel isn't that concerned with the less than 1% of people running linux, and aren't going to hold up a huge platform launch for it.

Basically the entire argument can be summed up as follows:

  • The USB3.0 chips used on the motherboard was slightly buggy during OS install, but there were plenty of USB2.0 ports that works just fine, so it really wasn't a problem.
  • There are no graphics drivers available for linux.
  • Rantings about how shitty performance is with no graphics drivers installed.
  • All of the graphical problems go away if you just us a $30 descrete card if you plan to use Linux, but that isn't an acceptable option.
 
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right, exactly where I was going.;) I'm sure old Charles will find way more issues this year, and likely they will have less mellow dramatic titles.
 

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Sandy Bridge is the biggest disappointment of the year
January 2, 2011


SANDY BRIDGE WAS shaping up to be the killer CPU of the year, a huge step forward in the 'uncore', decent graphics and big gains in the core as well. Instead, we got broken graphics, non-working feature sets, and a showstopper bug. What a shattering disappointment...............

LINK:
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2011/01/02/sandy-bridge-biggest-disapointment-year/

we have bulldozer coming dont cry :eek:
 
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Charlie Demerjian - Biggest Disappointed Ever

Fixed.

But I do agree that SB is fairly disappointing. Having one clock generator for an entire platform is insane. I have other negatives but that's the biggest for me.
 
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I don't really care much for candy bridge;) anyways, my OCed i7 920 4ghz is still plenty for me now:rockout:, I just need a new video card and Im set. Im looking more forward to AMD's bulldozer which should be more exciting:toast:
 
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Don't know about you guys, but I don't see anything disappointing about the i7 2600K having higher overclocks with less heat and power consumption than current i7.
 

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Don't know about you guys, but I don't see anything disappointing about the i7 2600K having higher overclocks with less heat and power consumption than current i7.

but they have effectively removed overclocking, limiting power to what they give you
 

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Don't know about you guys, but I don't see anything disappointing about the i7 2600K having higher overclocks with less heat and power consumption than current i7.

QFT. I don't see much disappointment at all. For mainstream use this is a win.

Although not being able to OC the cheap parts might help AMD, most people (mainstream) don't even know what overclocking is...

but they have effectively removed overclocking, limiting power to what they give you

You can still overclock, just have to buy the unlocked part. Though, I wish all the cpus were unlocked and not just the pricey ones. But as I just said, this is a mainstream part. The enthusiast parts for us TPU users will be coming later in the year to replace x58 so we'll see what Intel does with that.
 
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What you have is two segments, the enthusiast and the mainstream.

Mainstream SandyBridge without the "K" denomination offer similar perfomance at less power use. They are not intended for OC, fair enough, this is not what we should be looking at. At this level the older 1156 and 1366 is better choice for enthusiast.

For enthusiast, you get a "K" series CPU that allows you to overclock beyond 4.3GHz on AIR. And uses less power to do so. And if the £250 suggested by TechRadar is true that's about right for that level of performance.
 

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QFT. I don't see much disappointment at all. For mainstream use this is a win.

Although not being able to OC the cheap parts might help AMD, most people (mainstream) don't even know what overclocking is...



You can still overclock, just have to buy the unlocked part. Though, I wish all the cpus were unlocked and not just the pricey ones. But as I just said, this is a mainstream part. The enthusiast parts for us TPU users will be coming later in the year to replace x58 so we'll see what Intel does with that.

oh, thats fine, i heard from on of my buddies that it is the X58 replacement
 
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Yes, I too expect things to work perfectly without proper drivers. By every metric SB beats x58. Only in rare instances does the 980 beat a k. Is it really so important that nobody feel like their system is outdated that they have to go twist things around like this? I for one am getting SB, selling my H70 (SB does fine on stock!!), and enjoying my efi and the other latest features. That and actually being able to run my ram at full spec. I expect the whole thing to only cost me $100.
 

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The turbo feature = limited overclocking anyway but I must admit I was disappointed personally
 
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So for us I7 920/930/950 owners, is Sandy Bridge worth the update or should we wait until the end of the year for the X58 equivalent?
 
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So for us I7 920/930/950 owners, is Sandy Bridge worth the update or should we wait until the end of the year for the X58 equivalent?

Read the reviews. From what I gather, no.
 

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I'm wondering if our Charlie is on crack? He certainly appears to be delusional.

For those that remember, I used to support him in the past, as he knew what he was talking about (or at least seemed to) and was good at exposing sharp practices within the industry.

But now?

He was supplied prerelease hardware with drivers only for Windows. He's then surprised and aggrieved when the damned thing doesn't work on Linux. He doesn't even mention Windows. That's such an elementary, cretinous mistake, that I don't know where to begin. Even the people in the comments take the piss out of him for this.

Look here, there's an update to the article:

Editor's note: Intel provided S|A with the following response.

Intel: 'Charlie tested unreleased Sandybridge hardware without drivers. No hardware can function properly without drivers on any operating system, and as such, these results are not valid. We encourage Semiaccurate to retest the platform with the appropriate drivers in place'


Editor would like to note that Intel provided the unreleased hardware and drivers for Windows 7, Windows XP, and Vista. No drivers were provided for any flavor of Linux, and none were available short of building from source on our own. We do not feel this meets any reasonable standard for 'available'. We await appropriate drivers from Intel for re-testing, but as of press time, none were available.

I mean, duh! :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah, effectively it is last years tech with lower price points (from anandtech*). If you have a good core i7 now there really is no need to upgrade unless you really want to - which lets face it, a lot of us do for the hell of it.

But it's not like a gfx upgrade, it's the whole new mobo thing again as well....

* But Anand liked it - the k2600 was very good and overclocked like a breeze.
 
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Ill be keeping my 1156 for a while,it does all I need it to do,and it looks fricken great in my case:toast:
 

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I'm all for EFI, otherwise it's pretty much what I thought it was.

And charlie is actually right here: It probably work like crap on Linux. For a reason.
 
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Intel was sure to disappoint, because it has no need to amaze us, having no concurrent.
 
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Y'all gotta be impressed by the overclocking. A simple bump in Vcore and multiplier get you 4.6-4.8 Ghz.
 
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