nVidia or AMD for 230$

Vap0rX · May 4, 2011

Benetanegia said:
1680x1050 is not anywhere close to his resolution*. 1280x1024 is:

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_6950_1_GB/images/perfrel_1280.gif

He already decided so it's a moot point, but I really think that for his resolution (and folding and physx) the GTX560 ti is much much better. For some reason GTX4xx and 5xx perform much better on lower resolutions than their counterparts.

* 1680x1050 = 1.76 Mpixels
1440x900 = 1.29 Mpixels
1280x1024 = 1.31 Mpixels

That's right, i won't be upgrading my monitor so 1440x900 is max i will go for. Lower resolutions welcomed.
To be very frank i am being paranoid for PhysX. :confused:

Spaceman Spiff · May 4, 2011

Keep in mind though, Metro will make a 560 cry especially with physx on. I turn off Depth of Field and physx on my 6970 and can use vsync and keep it at 60fps *most*, not all of the time.

CJCerny · May 4, 2011

I'll be the voice of reason here and say that there is no reason to spend $230 on a video card for the resolution you plan to use. Something like a HD5770, which costs around $100 in the US, is a big upgrade over your 9600GT without being overkill on your wallet.

Vap0rX · May 4, 2011

CJCerny said:
I'll be the voice of reason here and say that there is no reason to spend $230 on a video card for the resolution you plan to use. Something like a HD5770, which costs around $100 in the US, is a big upgrade over your 9600GT without being overkill on your wallet.

So you mean to say in a price of 150$ or below, for my resolution i can get a pretty decent card which will play all the current games at max res. for my monitor with all the eye candy enabled ?

Spaceman Spiff · May 4, 2011

That's game dependent. UT, sure. Metro, no way.

Champ · May 4, 2011

HossHuge said:
I'm just going to throw this out there as an option for you. I'd pick up a HD6850 and then buy a couple of used 19' monitors to go with the one you have for some Eyefinity action.

I did it and love it.

http://img.techpowerup.org/110504/P1040630.jpg

That is beautiful. I would love a setup like that, but I don't have the space...yet

TheMailMan78 · May 4, 2011

sneddenraj said:
Batman, Saboteur, UT, GRAW, Mafia II and Metro 2033.

Oh don't worry. You wont be playing Metro 2033 decent on ANYTHING in the 230 range.

Benetanegia · May 4, 2011

TheMailMan78 said:
Oh don't worry. You wont be playing Metro 2033 decent on ANYTHING in the 230 range.

Oh of course you can play decent on 230 range of today. At his resolution. You just have to disable DX11 depth of field. I played it perfectly on my GTX460.

Seriously DX11 depth of field has a massive performance drop which is totally useless IMO. DOF in Crysis was a lot better than DX11 DOF as seen in Metro, AvP, Stone Giant DX11 demo... AND most importantly performance drop was nowhere as high. Not even tesselation has such a massive performance hit.

TheMailMan78 · May 4, 2011

Benetanegia said:
Oh of course you can play decent on 230 range of today. At his resolution. You just have to disable DX11 depth of field. I played it perfectly on my GTX460.

Seriously DX11 depth of field has a massive performance drop which is totally useless IMO. DOF in Crysis was a lot better than DX11 DOF as seen in Metro, AvP, Stone Giant DX11 demo... AND most importantly performance drop was nowhere as high. Not even tesselation has such a massive performance hit.

Maxed out or GTFO. I don't spend all this money on a rig to turn stuff off.

Benetanegia · May 4, 2011

TheMailMan78 said:
Maxed out or GTFO. I don't spend all this money on a rig to turn stuff off.

But that's the difference. He is not spending so much money. I did not spend much money. And you did not say play it maxed out, you said decent. I'd say that everything on (physx included) except DOF is more than just decent.

BababooeyHTJ · May 4, 2011

TheMailMan78 said:
Oh don't worry. You wont be playing Metro 2033 decent on ANYTHING in the 230 range.

At 1440x900 he'll be running it just fine.

JrRacinFan · May 4, 2011

Get a gtx460 and call it good.

TheMailMan78 · May 4, 2011

Benetanegia said:
But that's the difference. He is not spending so much money. I did not spend much money. And you did not say play it maxed out, you said decent. I'd say that everything on (physx included) except DOF is more than just decent.

Garbage. No DOF is not decent.

BababooeyHTJ · May 4, 2011

JrRacinFan said:
Get a gtx460 and spend the rest on a bigger display.

Benetanegia · May 4, 2011

TheMailMan78 said:
Garbage. No DOF is not decent.

You still get DOF just not the advanced one that is new to DX11. I don't have Metro anymore but here's some StoneGiant screenshots that clearly show wnat I'm talking about.

Tesselation and advanced DOF disabled:

Notice that we do have DOF. 119 fps.

Tesselation enabled. Advanced DOF disabled:

20% performance hit in exchange for a much better picture. Totally worth it.

Advanced DOF enabled. Tesselation disabled:

64 fps WTF. That's a cut in half. And IMO it looks worse!!

Both

TheMailMan78 · May 4, 2011

Benetanegia said:
You still get DOF just not the advanced one that is new to DX11. I don't have Metro anymore but here's some StoneGiant screenshots that clearly show wnat I'm talking about.

Tesselation and advanced DOF disabled:

http://img.techpowerup.org/110504/Capture001966.jpg

Notice that we do have DOF. 119 fps.

Tesselation enabled. Advanced DOF disabled:

http://img.techpowerup.org/110504/Capture002427.jpg

20% performance hit in exchange for a much better picture. Totally worth it.

Advanced DOF enabled. Tesselation disabled:

http://img.techpowerup.org/110504/Capture003680.jpg

64 fps WTF. That's a cut in half. And IMO it looks worse!!

And where is both of them enabled?

Fourstaff · May 5, 2011

Why are we still here? OP wants a card which does PhysX and folding, for the budget of $230. The only card which fits the criteria is the GTX560Ti, and its a good card at that. There is no need for fancy arguments like DoF and Tesellation etc, because OP will be happy with his new card, that is something I can guarantee.

trickson · May 5, 2011

Fourstaff said:
Why are we still here? OP wants a card which does PhysX and folding, for the budget of $230. The only card which fits the criteria is the GTX560Ti, and its a good card at that. There is no need for fancy arguments like DoF and Tesellation etc, because OP will be happy with his new card, that is something I can guarantee.

Yep

HossHuge · May 5, 2011

Champ said:
That is beautiful. I would love a setup like that, but I don't have the space...yet

Thanks Champ. I was going to buy an extra HD6850 but I decided to try Eyefinity instead. I got the two secondhand monitors and the VGA>DP adaptor for about $110. The second hand monitors are nothing special, but you never really look at them. It has made gaming feel fun again, like when I was younger. I game much more now.

STCNE · May 5, 2011

For your res I would look at the 550ti and 560ti, all depends on what your willing to pay.

Crap Daddy · May 5, 2011

Get the 560Ti, it is a powerful card doing great even if you upgrade your monitor down the road and the whole system. Even at your res I wouldn't get a 150$ card, it's just not worth it.

RejZoR · May 5, 2011

GeForce GTX560Ti for 230 bucks? The cheapest i could find here is for around 200 € ($296). I think for that kind of money you'd get GTX 460 which is around on the level of HD5850 or HD6850.
Though i'd certainly take the GTX 560 Ti at this point. GTX 460 is last gen so why not take the latest instead. Besides, GTX 560 Ti is around the HD6870 / HD6950 level which is much better.

Vap0rX · May 5, 2011

Finalizing on 560Ti

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133384

Lionheart · May 5, 2011

sneddenraj said:
Finalizing on 560Ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133384

Nice bro

BUY IT

Funtoss · May 5, 2011

Spaceman Spiff said:
Do you play any of these games?

# Batman: Arkham Asylum
# Batman: Arkham City
# Crazy Machines 2
# Cryostasis: Sleep of Reason
# Dark Void
# Darkest of Days
# Hot Dance Party
# Hot Dance Party II
# Mafia II
# Metal Knight Zero Online
# Metro 2033
# Mirror's Edge
# Nurien
# The Saboteur
# Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
# Sacred 2: Ice & Blood
# Shattered Horizon
# Star Tales
# Star Trek DAC
# Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
# Unreal Tournament 3 (and Extreme Physics Mod)
# U-WARS
# Warmonger: Operation Downtown Destruction

If you do then go green, if you don't go red.

i m so checking out some of the physx games from this list :L

and for the topic of this post...

GO with NVIDIA! honestly dude a gtx 460 or gtx 560 ti will be MORE than enough for anything

System Name	Prototype I \|\| Prototype II
Processor	Core i7 2670QM @ 2.2Ghz \|\| Core i7 4790K @ Stock
Motherboard	Lenovo Base Board \|\| Asus Maximus VII Hero
Cooling	Stock Cooler \|\| Corsair H100i
Memory	8GB Corsair DDR3 (1066Mhz) \|\| G.Skills Ripjaws X 8GB DDR3 1866Mhz
Video Card(s)	AMD 7670M \|\| Asus GTX 980 Poseidon
Storage	Samsung Evo Pro 250GB \|\| Crucial MX100 512GBx2
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp 24" - U2414H
Case	NZXT S340
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W
Software	Windows 10 64bit

Processor	i9 9900k @ 4.8 Ghz
Motherboard	Asrock Z370 Taichi
Cooling	Xspc raystorm direct die, 2x 480 swiftech rads + 2x 120 block ice rads D5, Monsoon Dualbay Res
Memory	32gb G.Skill DDR4 3200mhz CL14
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte Aorus 3080 Ti Waterforce WB shunt mod
Storage	Samsung Evo 860 500gb, Samsung Evo 860 1Tb x2, WD White 12tb x2
Display(s)	Acer xb270hu 144hz 2560x1440
Case	Enthoo Primo
Audio Device(s)	Schiit Modi Multibit/Magni3 - M1060 (fuzzor+LQi cable+Eikon suede)/ATH-W1000X (Purrin's mod+suede)
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNova 1300w
Mouse	Razer Orochi
Keyboard	Tesoro
Software	TeamOS W10 Pro/W7 Pro

System Name	Main Rig
Processor	Athlon 5350
Motherboard	AsRock mITX
Memory	4gb
Storage	120gb Kingston HyperX SSD
Display(s)	Samsung Syncmaster 740N
Power Supply	Corsair 430 watt

System Name	Prototype I \|\| Prototype II
Processor	Core i7 2670QM @ 2.2Ghz \|\| Core i7 4790K @ Stock
Motherboard	Lenovo Base Board \|\| Asus Maximus VII Hero
Cooling	Stock Cooler \|\| Corsair H100i
Memory	8GB Corsair DDR3 (1066Mhz) \|\| G.Skills Ripjaws X 8GB DDR3 1866Mhz
Video Card(s)	AMD 7670M \|\| Asus GTX 980 Poseidon
Storage	Samsung Evo Pro 250GB \|\| Crucial MX100 512GBx2
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp 24" - U2414H
Case	NZXT S340
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W
Software	Windows 10 64bit

Processor	i9 9900k @ 4.8 Ghz
Motherboard	Asrock Z370 Taichi
Cooling	Xspc raystorm direct die, 2x 480 swiftech rads + 2x 120 block ice rads D5, Monsoon Dualbay Res
Memory	32gb G.Skill DDR4 3200mhz CL14
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte Aorus 3080 Ti Waterforce WB shunt mod
Storage	Samsung Evo 860 500gb, Samsung Evo 860 1Tb x2, WD White 12tb x2
Display(s)	Acer xb270hu 144hz 2560x1440
Case	Enthoo Primo
Audio Device(s)	Schiit Modi Multibit/Magni3 - M1060 (fuzzor+LQi cable+Eikon suede)/ATH-W1000X (Purrin's mod+suede)
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNova 1300w
Mouse	Razer Orochi
Keyboard	Tesoro
Software	TeamOS W10 Pro/W7 Pro

nVidia or AMD for 230$

Vap0rX

Spaceman Spiff

CJCerny

Vap0rX

Spaceman Spiff

Champ

TheMailMan78

Big Member

Benetanegia

New Member

TheMailMan78

Big Member

Benetanegia

New Member

BababooeyHTJ

New Member

JrRacinFan

Served 5k and counting ...

TheMailMan78

Big Member

BababooeyHTJ

New Member

Benetanegia

New Member

TheMailMan78

Big Member

Fourstaff

Moderator

trickson

OH, I have such a headache

HossHuge

STCNE

New Member

Crap Daddy

RejZoR

Vap0rX

Lionheart

Funtoss

New Member

System Name	Champ's 1440P Rig
Processor	Intel i7-4770K @ 4.6 GHz
Motherboard	AsRock Z97 Extreme6
Cooling	Corsair H60
Memory	Corsair Vengeance 16GB 1600 Mhz 4x4 Blue Ram
Video Card(s)	Nvidia 1080 FE
Storage	Samsung 840 Evo 256 GB/RAID 0 Western Digital Blue 1 TB HDDs
Display(s)	Acer XG270HU
Case	Antec P100
Power Supply	Corsair CX850M
Mouse	Logitech G502
Keyboard	TT eSports Poseidon
Software	Windows 10

System Name	TheMailbox 5.0 / The Mailbox 4.5
Processor	RYZEN 1700X / Intel i7 2600k @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard	Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 / Gigabyte Z77X-UP5 TH Intel LGA 1155
Cooling	MasterLiquid PRO 280 / Scythe Katana 4
Memory	ADATA RGB 16GB DDR4 2666 16-16-16-39 / G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB DDR3 1866: 9-9-9-24
Video Card(s)	MSI 1080 "Duke" with 8Gb of RAM. Boost Clock 1847 MHz / ASUS 780ti
Storage	256Gb M4 SSD / 128Gb Agelity 4 SSD , 500Gb WD (7200)
Display(s)	LG 29" Class 21:9 UltraWide® IPS LED Monitor 2560 x 1080 / Dell 27"
Case	Cooler Master MASTERBOX 5t / Cooler Master 922 HAF
Audio Device(s)	Realtek ALC1220 Audio Codec / SupremeFX X-Fi with Bose Companion 2 speakers.
Power Supply	Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-750PX 750W Platinum / SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold
Mouse	SteelSeries Sensei (RAW) / Logitech G5
Keyboard	Razer BlackWidow / Logitech (Unknown)
Software	Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
Benchmark Scores	Benching is for bitches.

Processor	i5 3570k
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z77 UD5h
Cooling	XSPC Raystrom
Memory	4x4GB DDR3 1600mhz
Video Card(s)	7950 crossfire
Storage	a few
Display(s)	27" Catleap
Case	Xigmatek Elysium
Audio Device(s)	Xonar STX
Power Supply	Seasonic X1050
Software	Windows 7 X64

System Name	Dual Build Streamer
Processor	Ryzen 7900x3d : Ryzen 4600G
Motherboard	AsRock B650E Steel Legend : Giga B450i Aorus
Cooling	Custom Water 1x420 : Stock
Memory	32GB T-Force Deltas : 16GB Dominator Platinums
Video Card(s)	PowerColor 7900 XTX Liquid Devil: iGPU
Storage	20+ TB
Display(s)	Sammy 49" 5k Ultrawide
Case	Custom White Painted Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2
Audio Device(s)	Onboard : Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA 1200W P2
Mouse	Corsair M65 RGB Elite White
Keyboard	Hyperx Origins 65
Software	Windows 10

System Name	Orange! // ItchyHands
Processor	3570K // 10400F
Motherboard	ASRock z77 Extreme4 // TUF Gaming B460M-Plus
Cooling	Stock // Stock
Memory	2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3 // 2x8Gb 3200 Mhz XPG D41
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 // Asus TUF RTX 2070
Storage	Samsung 840 250Gb // SX8200 480GB
Display(s)	LG 22EA53VQ // Philips 275M QHD
Case	NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange // Tecware Forge M
Power Supply	Corsair CXM500w // CM MWE 600w

System Name	Ryzen TUF.
Processor	AMD Ryzen7 3700X
Motherboard	Asus TUF X570 Gaming Plus
Cooling	Noctua
Memory	Gskill RipJaws 3466MHz
Video Card(s)	Asus TUF 1650 Super Clocked.
Storage	CB 1T M.2 Drive.
Display(s)	73" Soney 4K.
Case	Antech LanAir Pro.
Audio Device(s)	Denon AVR-S750H
Power Supply	Corsair TX750
Mouse	Optical
Keyboard	K120 Logitech
Software	Windows 10 64 bit Home OEM

Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 2600
Motherboard	MSI B450 Gaming Plus
Memory	GSkill 8GB Dual Channel DDR4-2800
Video Card(s)	MSI GamingX RX580 4GB
Storage	Kingston V300 240GB SSD + WD Green 2TB
Display(s)	ACER K212HL 27" + Haier 55" + Lenovo Explorer Mixed Reality Headset
Case	Enermax Ostrog (Red)
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA B2 750W
Software	Win10 64bit

System Name	Lycanthropy
Processor	i5 2500K
Motherboard	ECS p67-h2a2
Memory	8GB Muskin Radioactive Series
Video Card(s)	MSI R7770
Case	Lancool K62
Audio Device(s)	Ultra-Fi Dac41, Vintage Sherwood amp, STAX SR-5 Headphones
Power Supply	XFX 850W
Software	Win 7 64-Bit(Tried Win8 and never going back)
Benchmark Scores	Reboots in 35 seconds flat, with a standard HDD. I'm a bit of an OCD tweaker. Using less than 100GB

System Name	Old Fart / Young Dude
Processor	2500K / 6600K
Motherboard	ASRock P67Extreme4 / Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3
Cooling	CM Hyper TX3 / CM Hyper 212 EVO
Memory	16 GB Kingston HyperX / 16 GB G.Skill Ripjaws X
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti / INNO3D RTX 2060
Storage	SSD, some WD and lots of Samsungs
Display(s)	BenQ GW2470 / LG UHD 43" TV
Case	Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced / Thermaltake Core v31
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar D1/Denon PMA500AE/Wharfedale D 10.1/ FiiO D03K/ JBL LSR 305
Power Supply	Corsair TX650 / Corsair TX650M
Mouse	Steelseries Rival 100 / Rival 110
Keyboard	Sidewinder/ Steelseries Apex 150
Software	Windows 10 / Windows 10 Pro

System Name	Boomer Master Race
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS APU
Motherboard	BareBones Mini PC MB
Cooling	Mini PC Cooling
Memory	Crucial 32GB 4800MHz
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 680M 8GB IGPU
Storage	Crucial 500GB M.2 SSD + 2TB Ext HDD
Display(s)	Sony 4K Bravia X85J 43Inch TV 120Hz
Case	Beelink Mini PC Chassis
Audio Device(s)	Built In Realtek Digital Audio HD
Power Supply	120w Power Brick
Mouse	Logitech G203 Lightsync
Keyboard	Atrix RGB Slim Keyboard
VR HMD	( ◔ ʖ̯ ◔ )
Software	Windows 10 Home 64bit
Benchmark Scores	Don't do them anymore.

System Name	My Heater
Processor	Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.2ghz
Motherboard	Asus P5B-E Plus
Cooling	Zalman CNPS 9700 NT
Memory	Patriot 4GB 800MHz DDR2
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX 460 1GB
Storage	2x Western Digital 640GB (1.28TB)
Display(s)	Viewsonic VX2349wm 24"
Case	Raidmax Hurricane
Audio Device(s)	C-Media 8738
Power Supply	Aywun Megapower 650w 80+
Software	Windows 7 64 Bit