The PS3 Clubhouse

[Wile E]

explain to me why it's better

Why what's better than what? This could go a couple of ways based on the last couple of posts.

 

[BumbleBee]

explain to me why PS2 titles look and play better on the PS3.

 

[Wile E]

explain to me why PS2 titles look and play better on the PS3.

I covered that already. They are upscaled (not much difference) and anti-aliased(much bigger difference). Don't believe me? Compare them yourself. And for the titles that do look better without the AA (generally the ones that offer true native 480p support), you can run it native anyway. Best of both worlds.

That doesn't even consider the fact that I now only need one console to play ALL of my PS games, as well as BDs.

 

[BumbleBee]

the smoothing makes the image too soft and can make it blurry even stretch the textures.

one thing I forgot to mention is the list of PS2 titles that will run but glitch out on the PS3.

if you have a family and the PS3 is your primary set-top box to play DVD, Blu-ray, CD, SACD, etc. the drive won't last.

 

[Wile E]

It only does that on the 480p titles. Most interlaced titles need that AA to not look like jaggy hell. Even still, you can just turn off the feature on the titles it harms, and still have the best of both worlds.

Not too many PS2 titles glitch on the Emotion equipped 60GB unit.

60GB launch console. My only set top box for movies (except the brief forray into HD DVD) for the past 4 years or so (until I bought a slim to be able to update and to get the quieter fan). Works just fine. The percentage that die are much smaller than the percentage that don't. Hell, even the original 360 with a 1 in 3 rate, there were more that didn't fail than did. (Not that it has an acceptable failure rate.)

I know you are a slim fangirl, but I'm sorry, it just does not impress. The only thing it has going for it over the early fats is that it is more quiet (and smaller if that actually matters to you.).

 

[BumbleBee]

PS3 models made before 2008 use a 400a single optical lens and it has a higher failure rate than the 450a dual optical lens the Slim models use.

 

[Wile E]

Regardless, the the percentage of failed consoles is vastly lower than working consoles. Odds are that it will not break for the vast majority of users. Higher chance =/= definite breakage.

And that still doesn't account for the missing features and/or laggy XMB performance of the slim.

Again, I am mostly unimpressed with my slim over my fat.

 

[HookeyStreet]

I picked up Killzone 3 yesterday for £18 So far, I think it's a fantastic game. A lot more fun than part 2. But, I keep getting audio problems The voice overs cut the last few words of a sentence off sometimes. Or, I just don't get any voice audio at all (you know, when your team mates are giving orders etc during the campaign).

I've tried changing some settings on the PS3 etc to cure it, but nothing has worked. I have the PS3 connected to my BD player/home cinema system via HDMI, but this shouldn't cause a problem......should it?

 

[kurosagi01]

I picked up Killzone 3 yesterday for £18 So far, I think it's a fantastic game. A lot more fun than part 2. But, I keep getting audio problems The voice overs cut the last few words of a sentence off sometimes. Or, I just don't get any voice audio at all (you know, when your team mates are giving orders etc during the campaign).

I've tried changing some settings on the PS3 etc to cure it, but nothing has worked. I have the PS3 connected to my BD player/home cinema system via HDMI, but this shouldn't cause a problem......should it?

Installed all the latest updates for PS3 and the game?

 

[HookeyStreet]

Installed all the latest updates for PS3 and the game?

Yeah, I did that before even starting the game

 

[kurosagi01]

is the disc fine?? i'm only trying state obvious but obviously nothing seems to work.
Is there any audio outsync in other games?

 

[theonedub]

It only does that on the 480p titles. Most interlaced titles need that AA to not look like jaggy hell. Even still, you can just turn off the feature on the titles it harms, and still have the best of both worlds.

Not too many PS2 titles glitch on the Emotion equipped 60GB unit.

60GB launch console. My only set top box for movies (except the brief forray into HD DVD) for the past 4 years or so (until I bought a slim to be able to update and to get the quieter fan). Works just fine. The percentage that die are much smaller than the percentage that don't. Hell, even the original 360 with a 1 in 3 rate, there were more that didn't fail than did. (Not that it has an acceptable failure rate.)

I know you are a slim fangirl, but I'm sorry, it just does not impress. The only thing it has going for it over the early fats is that it is more quiet (and smaller if that actually matters to you.).

Lowered power consumption, and the lowered heat output that brings, is another major benefit of the Slim model.

On another note, even with the 'upgrades' to PS2 titles the 1st gen PS3s applied to PS2 games, many of the titles still looked pretty bad on a large HDTV. Before I let my 60gb go, I preferred playing PS2 games on my real PS2 on a 'legacy' CRT.

 

[Wile E]

Lowered power consumption, and the lowered heat output that brings, is another major benefit of the Slim model.

On another note, even with the 'upgrades' to PS2 titles the 1st gen PS3s applied to PS2 games, many of the titles still looked pretty bad on a large HDTV. Before I let my 60gb go, I preferred playing PS2 games on my real PS2 on a 'legacy' CRT.

We no longer have any crts in this house. The ps3 looks better than our ps2 on our tvs on the older games.

I was considering quieter and lower heat to be kind of the same thing, considering the lower heat output is the reason it's quieter.

As for power consumption, I did forget about it, but that's because how much of a real world difference does it really make? I haven't seen a noticeable change in my power bill since putting the slim into active duty.

 

[BumbleBee]

Lowered power consumption, and the lowered heat output that brings, is another major benefit of the Slim model.

On another note, even with the 'upgrades' to PS2 titles the 1st gen PS3s applied to PS2 games, many of the titles still looked pretty bad on a large HDTV. Before I let my 60gb go, I preferred playing PS2 games on my real PS2 on a 'legacy' CRT.

what you need is a HDTV with good color accuracy, blacks and a scaler.

http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

We no longer have any crts in this house. The ps3 looks better than our ps2 on our tvs on the older games.

I was considering quieter and lower heat to be kind of the same thing, considering the lower heat output is the reason it's quieter.

As for power consumption, I did forget about it, but that's because how much of a real world difference does it really make? I haven't seen a noticeable change in my power bill since putting the slim into active duty.

 

[Wile E]

And? It did not translate to a noticeable, or in any way significant, difference in my power bill. It is a completely moot point to me. And even if it did, it's better features are more important to me than a couple dollars on an electric bill. I regret buying my slim. I wish I would've just looked for another 60GB launch console.

 

[kurosagi01]

We all have different opinion of which version is better,personally i prefer the the phat model. I love the design of the phat,since mine is a launch 20gb model its pure black with no silver trim,no built in wireless.
It looks great and i like the a bit of heft to consoles,it feels its well made from the weight.

 

[Israar]

Hey guys

I've got a little problem, well, my cousin has haha!

He's got the fat 40Gb PS3 (CECHG03) model, although he wants to upgrade to a 160Gb HDD. Thing is he's already started on it and personally I think he's naffed it to be fair, though if anyone can aide me in getting it back on it's feet I'd really be happy

I've read on the PS3 website that to upgrade your system HDD to a larger one you'd need to manually backup first then swap the HDD's over, problem there is that my cousin went and did away with the original 40Gb HDD before telling me about having a look into upgrading the HDD.

When I boot the system it says that it needs to format the HDD and then the majority of the time it sticks on 10% -- When it had formatted the HDD and tried to run it said that the incorrect hard disk was in the system (something like that anyway )

The model of the HDD that my cousin went and bought to put in his PS3 is a WD 160Gb WD1600BEVT - 22ZCT0.

If anyone can help be it by replying here of via PM I'd greatly appreciate it

Thanks in advance!

--Lee

 

[HookeyStreet]

Hey guys

I've got a little problem, well, my cousin has haha!

He's got the fat 40Gb PS3 (CECHG03) model, although he wants to upgrade to a 160Gb HDD. Thing is he's already started on it and personally I think he's naffed it to be fair, though if anyone can aide me in getting it back on it's feet I'd really be happy

I've read on the PS3 website that to upgrade your system HDD to a larger one you'd need to manually backup first then swap the HDD's over, problem there is that my cousin went and did away with the original 40Gb HDD before telling me about having a look into upgrading the HDD.

When I boot the system it says that it needs to format the HDD and then the majority of the time it sticks on 10% -- When it had formatted the HDD and tried to run it said that the incorrect hard disk was in the system (something like that anyway )

The model of the HDD that my cousin went and bought to put in his PS3 is a WD 160Gb WD1600BEVT - 22ZCT0.

If anyone can help be it by replying here of via PM I'd greatly appreciate it

Thanks in advance!

--Lee

On those older models the system data is stored internally so you can basically just swap out the HDD with minimum fuss (on the newer models you need to load the system data on a USB pendrive after installing a new HDD).

I would say that your 'cousins' () new HDD is knackered

 

[kurosagi01]

There are a few HDD that are not compatible with the PS3,as for backing up if you got like save data,trophies,DLC you will need back them up on a external with 35GB and the back up need be a FAT32 format for the PS3 to read it.
The ps3 does take forever to back up and reformat though i'm afraid,and as for issue with formatting you need format it on the PS3 itself so its compatible with it,judging by your post,i may be wrong,my apology if i am that you formatted it before used?

 

[BumbleBee]

anyone read Retro Gamer?

I just received issue 76 and it's the best magazine I have ever read.

 

[kurosagi01]

I hardly buy magazines even when i was a little boy,and internet was expensive at time. internet reviews wasn't available.
I bought all my games based on preference and opinions from relatives and friends.

 

[Israar]

On those older models the system data is stored internally so you can basically just swap out the HDD with minimum fuss (on the newer models you need to load the system data on a USB pendrive after installing a new HDD).

I would say that your 'cousins' () new HDD is knackered

Could be the case, I'll have to check it's integrity on my PC see whether the drive itself is ok or not, if it is then it might be a compatibility issue like kurosagi01 said

I'm glad the system data is saved on the old PS3's as that is a good thing for me then!

Shows that there is hope for this PS3 to come back to life then

There are a few HDD that are not compatible with the PS3,as for backing up if you got like save data,trophies,DLC you will need back them up on a external with 35GB and the back up need be a FAT32 format for the PS3 to read it.
The ps3 does take forever to back up and reformat though i'm afraid,and as for issue with formatting you need format it on the PS3 itself so its compatible with it,judging by your post,i may be wrong,my apology if i am that you formatted it before used?

I've been reading the PS3 forum and they've been mentioning that the Seagate Momentus seem to be the most compatible, what do you think about this one Seagate Momentus 160GB 5400.6? If it is the case I'll search the FS section and see if I can pick one up from you guys!

Unfortunately my cousin has done away with the original HDD, so anything he had saved on there, trophies, etc, he will have to get again, then again, I don't think he would have had much as he had it collecting dust from what he said to me haha!

No need to appologise mate, you've done nothing wrong! -- I was formatting on the PS3 itself, although I'm unsure on whether it's a bad HDD from what HookeyStreet said or whether it's just a compatibility issue like you mentioned as to which there is a lot of talk about around the internet

Thank you both for the great input and I'll definitely get back to you on this when I get around to doing it!



--Lee

 

[kurosagi01]

I would take gamble and get the samsung 320GB,only £1 more and if it works then additional 160gb extra than the 160gb seagate lol:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/320g...t-m7-25-95-mm-sata-3gb-s-5400rpm-8mb-12ms-ncq

If your cousin synced all his trophies to the sony main server you should be able to retrieve them but i ain't 100% sure.

 

[Jaffakeik]

can someone recommend me Hdd for my ps3 slim with 320Gb+. because I dont know what hdd's supports ps3 dont need to be ssd.And how can i transfer all data from old hdd to new one?

 

[Fourstaff]

can someone recommend me Hdd for my ps3 slim with 320Gb+. because I dont know what hdd's supports ps3 dont need to be ssd.And how can i transfer all data from old hdd to new one?

As long as it fits its compatible check width. Backup your old PS3 to the new drive, swap and use a USB stick to install firmware. Drive needs to be FAT32. That is how my friend did to PS3 fat, should be more or less the same.