Bulldozer Information Thread.

[billcat479]

my mind what is left of it has been made up

I'm glad to see the software side got some results. Made me very happy.
And those benchmarks are a load of yuk in many ways. I know one cpu is faster but I got my 6 core BE AMD and darn the benchmarks because no matter what I read it's what I see and use that makes my world real. My system runs everything I give it very fast and how much more than that does anyone really need.
I admire AMD's innovations that have led the home computer users systems for the last 5 or 10 years. Time is varible for me so I can't tell dates or time lines. Our 64bit home cpus that Intel shot down as long as they could, multi cores and instructions per clock cycle are AMD led. If we didn't have AMD around the computer world would be boring. We would still be using super hyped clock speeds that cook steaks and do it poorly on a single core. One thing Intel would not do is spend a ton on R&D if they don't have to and thanks to AMD they did have to.
So this is why I'm buying AMD's next new cpu. I know it will run anything I throw at it just fine and dandy and I could care less about the benchmark scores. As long as I got a computer that computes well I'm going to be happy. And also give a little back to AMD for what they gave to us all. The ability to buy cheap cpus and fancy cpu's that used to be just in the domain of the supercomputers and mainframes and so on... Isn't this enough for some? But I try to take a nicer view towards a company that did have the user's interests at heart as far as I can read them. I may be wrong but so what. It's how I think about it and I fine with it.

 

[NC37]

I'm glad to see the software side got some results. Made me very happy.
And those benchmarks are a load of yuk in many ways. I know one cpu is faster but I got my 6 core BE AMD and darn the benchmarks because no matter what I read it's what I see and use that makes my world real. My system runs everything I give it very fast and how much more than that does anyone really need.
I admire AMD's innovations that have led the home computer users systems for the last 5 or 10 years. Time is varible for me so I can't tell dates or time lines. Our 64bit home cpus that Intel shot down as long as they could, multi cores and instructions per clock cycle are AMD led. If we didn't have AMD around the computer world would be boring. We would still be using super hyped clock speeds that cook steaks and do it poorly on a single core. One thing Intel would not do is spend a ton on R&D if they don't have to and thanks to AMD they did have to.
So this is why I'm buying AMD's next new cpu. I know it will run anything I throw at it just fine and dandy and I could care less about the benchmark scores. As long as I got a computer that computes well I'm going to be happy. And also give a little back to AMD for what they gave to us all. The ability to buy cheap cpus and fancy cpu's that used to be just in the domain of the supercomputers and mainframes and so on... Isn't this enough for some? But I try to take a nicer view towards a company that did have the user's interests at heart as far as I can read them. I may be wrong but so what. It's how I think about it and I fine with it.

Yep, Intel may have performance leads more often, but AMD has innovated better over time and been a main reason for Intel to not relax too much. Without AMD, we'd all be on P4s or maybe something like the Core 2s. Think 64bit support was more or less forced on Intel when the 3GB memory limit started getting focus more.

Question in the next year or 2 is...will the pressure from the APUs finally cause Intel to get serious on their IGPs? Not only in hardware but also drivers. I'm doubting much change from Intel till APUs are in the 3rd gen. Public is not aware of the poorness of Intel graphics till they are faced with it. Even then, Intel is the name brand. But if APUs keep making a name for themselves and improve even more in the low end front, likely see Intel making some quick changes. I could see them doing some rather rash changes to chip design in an attempt to boost performance till they can refocus some better R&D onto it. Likely by 4th to 5th gen APUs, I Imagine we'll finally see some good head to head action in the low ends. Just don't see AMD losing to Intel graphics in the high end for awhile due to the more advanced Radeon tech.

AMD does indeed make the industry more interesting when they get a design right.

 

[erocker]

I'll remind some of you that this is a Bulldozer information thread and not a Bulldozer speculation thread. Any more off topic posts will result in moderators having to do some work.

Keep on topic.

 

[bucketface]

to sum up what we do know about BD is:
It's supposed to be comming Sept 19th
It's the top model is supposed to be priced and perform competitively with the 2600k.
we don't know much else about it... other than a whole lot of simplified architechture slides, perf is a mystery.
i wish there were atleast a trickle of info comming from amd about it

 

[seronx]

to sum up what we do know about BD is:
It's supposed to be comming Sept 19th
It's the top model is supposed to be priced and perform competitively with the 2600k.
we don't know much else about it...
i wish there were atleast a trickle of info comming form amd about it

Not to be mean but I am going to correct some areas

• It's supposed to be coming soon
  
• It has several model versions a 4-core, a 6-core and an 8-core version where they will be located in the Performance/Price and Power/Cost and Performance/Power/Cost benchmark trees is unknown till they come
  
• We have the picture of the architecture and we have a software explanation of what said "Bulldozer" can be able to do but these numbers are "Yet to be Confirmed" numbers and other numbers are "Yet to be Caculated" numbers
  
• Corporate policy prevents trickles of information from AMD

 

[Tank]

i don't care really even if Bulldozer does not beat sandy bridge i think it will do a good job of keeping up and that's good enough for me

roll on the 19th

 

[ensabrenoir]

So what we know is:
1. Its made by amd
2. Its name is bulldozer

Everything beyond that is either marketing or speculation. It was fun to make fun of bd but as we get closer to release, I'm taking it more seriously. This could be my next cpu, if it lives up to its claims. I buy what I want, dosent matter who makes it. I'll pay as long as its worth it and suits my needs. Now I wait for amd and the Tpu for reviews.

 

[heky]

2. Its name is bulldozer

Nope, the name FX, bulldozer is the nick-name.

 

[JF-AMD]

Good 2 know you have their support. Having great hardware is only Half of the equation. Radical and new approaches aren't always accepted. I.e. beta/vhs, laserdisks/dvd, minidisk/cd's, high definition disks/blueray. Though my laserdisc player and minidisc player do make great conversation pieces

The problem with all of those technologies is that they required you change media/form factor. Bulldozer runs everything that x86 runs.

And, your list really should have included itanium.

I fear programs using some of a modules shared resources sees it as a single core and runs 1 thread. This could end up with programs that can run 8 threads and run 8 threads on Intel 2600K, but only runs 4 threads on BD. I am sure AMD has done what they can to prevent this, but still a concern for me.

This will not happen.

 

[Crap Daddy]

So, another delay? Is it good, is it bad?


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...s_Chips_to_October_Changes_Launch_Lineup.html

 

[Damn_Smooth]

So, another delay? Is it good, is it bad?


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...s_Chips_to_October_Changes_Launch_Lineup.html

Better question. Is it real?

 

[erocker]

So, another delay? Is it good, is it bad?


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...s_Chips_to_October_Changes_Launch_Lineup.html

I didn't think there was a release date so how can there be a delay?

 

[eidairaman1]

I didn't think there was a release date so how can there be a delay?

its all speculation. It will be out when its out n I dont care about nothing till its ready for sale n in the hands of the testers here

 

[Damn_Smooth]

I actually hope it's true. I still need to get the Crosshair V to put it in.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I didn't think there was a release date so how can there be a delay?

it was said to be releasing the 26th of this month. now its delayed to october. Glad ive just decided to go Sandy Bridge

 

[BrooksyX]

it was said to be releasing the 26th of this month. now its delayed to october. Glad ive just decided to go Sandy Bridge

Agreed. I have a feeling a lot of people are going to head that way.

 

[JF-AMD]

There are a million dates floating around. All from "reliable" sources. They can't all be true.

 

[cadaveca]

There are a million dates floating around. All from "reliable" sources. They can't all be true.

But...But...But...then one must be, right?

 

[JF-AMD]

Yes, one date is right. But that means that 4,374,658,823 posts stating that they know the date have to be wrong.

Based on that, you are best off to not believe any of the "I have it on good information" threads. After all, how many people said it was today? People are getting too caught up in the speculation and can't tell truth from fact at this point.

 

[cadaveca]

People are getting too caught up in the speculation and can't tell truth from fact at this point.

Not too sure why though. It's pretty simple. If it's not on the AMD website, it's not real. I've been saying as much for a while now.

It does seeems like some really weird hype. Not too sure what the deal is, as I know nothing, but I cannot wait for the CPUs so we can "part the waters" so to speak, between truth and reality.

All I know is that you haven't sent me a flat of chips yet.

 

[ensabrenoir]

nothing official....but dont believe everything else

Yes, one date is right. But that means that 4,374,658,823 posts stating that they know the date have to be wrong.

Based on that, you are best off to not believe any of the "I have it on good information" threads. After all, how many people said it was today? People are getting too caught up in the speculation and can't tell truth from fact at this point.

At this point ..... its all the same.

 

[Tank]

i'm still sticking to the 19th as that's the only date that has been confirmed by AMD thus far.

 

[xenocide]

I remember AMD presented that slide that said the BD CPU's would be out in 60-90 days, meaning it would launch at earliest in mid-August, and at latest in mid-September. That was the only real "date" that was set in stone by them. But if it does in fact launch in October, that would mean that slide was incorrect, and AMD either lied, or delayed it.

 

[heky]

I got an invitation from AMD yesterday for the AMD Fusion Zone Cocktail Reception at Yerba Buena Terrace at the St. Regis San Francisco. AMD says, and i quote:"We'll be making an historic announcement, and want you to be a part of it."

Maybe, just maybe, the NDA gets lifted then...

Oh, the date is the 13. September...fingers crossed...

 

[the54thvoid]

I got an invitation from A man yesterday for the Man Fusion Zone Cocktail Reception at Yerba Buena Terrace at the St. Regis San Francisco. A Man says, and i quote:"We'll be making an historic announcement, and want you to be parted by it."

Maybe, just maybe, the shirt gets lifted then...

Oh, the date is the 13. September...fingers crossed...

Fixed. Joke.