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Why is PC gaming not as big as it once was?

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CDdude55: and who knows, maybe they can manage the impossible :).


Then I will :respect: to Microsoft everyday!


Short: That the new console would be better than the current ones, that is competely right, but I can't think they developed the definitive technology. Like all (or almsot all) human inventions, everything could be improved to some extent.
 

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maybe, but their new console will most likely deter most pc gamers to play games on PC. many pc gamers will be buying the new console.
 

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CDdude55: and who knows, maybe they can manage the impossible :).

It takes possible solutions to achieve the once thought impossible.

You clearly can't articulate how such things would be possible, i already mentioned how it's not possible and that how hardware and software will have to progress to keep up with each other, there is no way to create a piece of hardware in say 2011 and have it still be relevant with software in 2050.

Im always open to possibilities that are reasonable and articulated, but it seems you don't understand the basics of how technology works and moves so instead you're basing what you're saying on old articles with no information or just assumptions with no merit.
 
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maybe, but their new console will most likely deter most pc gamers to play games on PC. many pc gamers will be buying the new console.

But the PC games and hardware will also improve and even **could** reach or surpass the new MS console capabilities! I don't think their new console would mark the end of PC games, it will be a competition product, but the PC companies will also improve them :).
 

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maybe, but their new console will most likely deter most pc gamers to play games on PC. many pc gamers will be buying the new console.

Don't expect anyone to put down their PC and rush to the new console. I started as a console gamer (back with my Atari, then NES, then Sega, then N64, then PS1, then PS2, then I finally got my first PC. I have a PS3, and it mostly sits now, I had used it to stream media, but now I built a HTPC for that. I don't want to hear about tech that never ages and can always render the newest things, I won't believe it till I see it. And I also prefer to use a keyboard/mouse for everything except racing games and fighters. And the fact that my computers performance is great, I will buy a next gen console, but I don't think I will rush out for it like I did a PS3.

And as far as PC gaming on the decline, what does BF3 pre-orders say about that. Or the fact that Steam is the 2nd largest game reseller (behind Gamestop), when they only sell games for one platform, and they don't sell WoW expansions and some other large titles some GS gets credit for those. Steam use and digital distribution have brought PC back to the gaming front.
 

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Derek: but how can u improve something that reached its end??????

because that will be exactly the case for MS new console. handling real life graphics.

the graphical evolution will reach its end by the introduction of MS new console. i promise u that.

It might be able to handle real life graphics, but likely only up to 1080p (the current standard). When we get higher resolution TVs, guess what, it will no longer be able to render graphics at that quality at those higher resolutions, therefore, it will need to be upgraded.

There is absolutely no such thing as future proof hardware, period.
 

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Sit back and enjoy the ride jacob, you are in for a VERY long haul for a short period of time at TPU. Remember if devs would actually code and not port, pc gaming would/could be at least twice as "visual".

EDIT:

Look at "Hard Reset" the game you pm'd me. From a low quality video it looks amazing to me. I know I wouldn't play it though.
 

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1Kurgan1: bf3 is only one game. and it will be very hard to run. that will be its downfall. most people dont like demanding games. and yet developers insist on it. but it will be their loss. at the end of the day, they will be the one who will moan about piracy because of their thoughtlessness.
 

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1Kurgan1: bf3 is only one game. and it will be very hard to run. that will be its downfall. most people dont like demanding games. and yet developers insist on it. but it will be their loss. at the end of the day, they will be the one who will moan about piracy because of their thoughtlessness.

No, because the game still looks better than console games, even when you don't max it out. You do not have to max out a game to play it.
 

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1Kurgan1: bf3 is only one game. and it will be very hard to run. that will be its downfall. most people dont like demanding games. and yet developers insist on it. but it will be their loss. at the end of the day, they will be the one who will moan about piracy because of their thoughtlessness.

It will probably not be very demanding, unless you have to run it at huge resolutions with everything maxed out.
 
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1Kurgan1: bf3 is only one game. and it will be very hard to run. that will be its downfall. most people dont like demanding games. and yet developers insist on it. but it will be their loss. at the end of the day, they will be the one who will moan about piracy because of their thoughtlessness.

But PC games are configurable! anyone can alter the quality to run on his/her hardware (up to a limit, don't ask to run it on a very very old and low end hardware, it is like asking to run a PS3 game on a PS1 console), there isn't need to run the game at super full max settings :)
 

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JrRacinFan: actually Hard Reset is a very good game and graphically amazing.

and why u watch low q video then?

its ur problem then...
 

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and why u watch low q video then?

its ur problem then...

Its called a 3mbps connection...

You already knew this. You also know Hard Reset is a PC only shooter right?
 

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of course. then why dont u go somewhere that u can watch high q video instead of blaming the game thoughtlessly?

but no, u dont try to do that because your goal is to insult me and rejecting my claim that Hard Reset is such a good game.

u dont have good intentions.
 

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of course. then why dont u go somewhere that u can watch high q video instead of blaming the game thoughtlessly?

but no, u dont try to do that because your goal is to insult me and rejecting my claim that Hard Reset is such a good game.

u dont have good intentions.

This makes no sense whatsoever.
 

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frick: what doesnt make sense?

im asking JrRacinFan nicely to go somewhere so he can have high speed internet to see Hard Reset video in high res. he should do that otherwise he insulted me.

JrRacinFan: got that?
 
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It doesnt exactly amaze me how this turned into a trollfest - its Pc vs. Console. same argument like Mac vs Pc, theres always going to be haters, bashing and flamewars.

but what amazes me is the amount of stupidity in this thread.

Technology will never stop evolving, Software will never stop evolving. the day we see a 'one-stop-shop' console option that will last for eternity, will be the day the whole of humanity is wipe off the face of earth in the blink of an eye, thus halting progress.

Until that day comes. PC will continue to lead the way and push the boundaries forward.

If Microsoft really made a console that 'unlimitedly' powerful. There would be no need for rooms and rooms of huge industrial servers, there would be no need for all the computers at NASA and the pentagon and there would be no need for a space ship the size of the Starship Enterprise Because everything can all be powered buy one 'super console' in a room.

as much as we would like for technology to progress where we can microsize everything and have a super computer then size of an earing thats not going to happen in any of our lifetimes, so just thinking about it is a waste of time.

As for Microsofts 'Miracle' console that will be the end of everything as we know it.

I'll believe it when i see it. I highly doubt it will be more powerful then the computers we have when its released, thats always been the case.
 

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frick: what doesnt make sense?

im asking JrRacinFan nicely to go somewhere so he can have high speed internet to see Hard Reset video in high res. he should do that otherwise he insulted me.

JrRacinFan: got that?

He never insulted you, and he said that the game looks amazing.
 
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And as far as PC gaming on the decline, what does BF3 pre-orders say about that.

792,112 (X360/PS3)
457,888 (PC)

XBOX 360 alone has more pre-orders than PC.
 

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It doesnt exactly amaze me how this turned into a trollfest - its Pc vs. Console. same argument like Mac vs Pc, theres always going to be haters, bashing and flamewars.

but what amazes me is the amount of stupidity in this thread.

Most of the stupidity radiated from a single individual(jacob90), hence fighting ensued toward said stupidity.

To me this just looks like another classic example of a troll getting exactly what he wanted, a reaction.
 
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Keep it civil, and don't take the bait guys. ;)
 
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Most of the stupidity radiated from a single individual(jacob90), hence fighting ensued toward said stupidity.

To me this just looks like another classic example of a troll getting exactly what he wanted, a reaction.

the cover is deceiving!

 

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of course. then why dont u go somewhere that u can watch high q video instead of blaming the game thoughtlessly?

but no, u dont try to do that because your goal is to insult me and rejecting my claim that Hard Reset is such a good game.

u dont have good intentions.

What are you talking about!? My intentions were not to flame you. Also, thanks for flamebaiting me. You're attempt to make me look like a jerk is not working. If you must, go ahead and PM me. You just took my post oppositely of what i was trying to say.

EDIT:

Oh also, i wouldn't have a problem going somewhere else for my internet IF somewhere else was available in my area.
 
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