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I haven't been able to lease a console in my area since the 16-bit era. it's cheaper to own than lease. 50% of Netflix subscribers stream through consoles and the PS3 doubles as a Blu-ray player so they have other uses.

plus over the 6 years they have existed it's easy to pick one or another up spending less than $300 total. i didn't own all on launch. i didn't own any in their first 3 years. still got enjoyment at less than 1/2 price...
 
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I haven't been able to lease a console in my area since the 16-bit era. it's cheaper to own than lease. 50% of Netflix subscribers stream through consoles and the PS3 doubles as a Blu-ray player so they have other uses.

Not lease, rent. It's just $0.70 per hour, and you play on a couch and a big screen. Going to the cinema is more expensive, a Big Mac is more expensive. So long as they have the games you want to play, you don't have to buy those games.
 
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Not lease, rent. It's just $0.70 per hour, and you play on a couch and a big screen. Going to the cinema is more expensive, a Big Mac is more expensive. So long as they have the games you want to play, you don't have to buy those games.

yeah.. like 15-20 years ago.
 

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GTA IV looks horrible on the PS3. Even FIFA 11 and NBA 2K11, compared to their PC versions. And those two aren't exactly known for their graphics. The difference are miles away, even my cousin's old and cheap computer can max out FIFA 11 and NBA 2K11 at a slightly higher resolution (1600x900) than a console and yet still looks better even with the "greater load." And that's with a 9500 GT.

Yeah, any console game just pales in comparison, even to PC's running pretty horrible videocards. I would say I could push better graphics on a ATI 3870 than either of the console can, and for a while I literally had a 3870 just sitting right on my basement floor, I think it actually got thrown away, probably could find one of those around for less than $50.
 
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Again we come into a cost thing.
To expand on the cost more, you buy a computer capable of playing most games decently $1500 call it... Well that's a Ps3 and a LOT of games.
Funny, you can build a computer capable of running games at HD resolution (consoles resolution) For $500 ! $650 if you include a monitor, KB & mouse.

Another thing to consider is console games mostly support 2 sometimes more players at once, not true with most pc games not utilizing the same system.
LAN ? Internet ? And I believe most multi-platform online multiplayer games have servers that hold more players on PC than their Console servers.

I find personally that console games are generally complete and fairly bug free on release... When's the last time you could say the same about a big PC title...

Most PC title aren't buggy, it's just because of the many variables that occurs in the pc system, and the diversity of the parts and components, it's nearly impossible do design any software that can operate 100% with them. Though to be honest I think bugs are overrated. I've rarely incountered any in any game I played (aside from Cryostasis :banghead:). And most of the ones I did encounter had an update to fix them.
 
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yeah.. like 15-20 years ago.

:confused::confused::confused:

What do you mean exactly? Are you saying the PS 3, Xbox 360, Wii, LCD TVs are 15-20 years old already?
 
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:confused::confused::confused:

What do you mean exactly? Are you saying the PS 3, Xbox 360, Wii, LCD TVs are 15-20 years old already?

she's saying you can't rent a console that cheaply any more, that era ended 15 years ago.
 
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:confused::confused::confused:

What do you mean exactly? Are you saying the PS 3, Xbox 360, Wii, LCD TVs are 15-20 years old already?

Dammit Jim, why can't you understand? <shakes shoulders>

the video stores that haven't gone out of business no longer rent consoles out. maybe in the Philippines they do but not in Canada.
 

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Dammit Jim, why can't you understand? <shakes shoulders>

Your a Doctor, not a Poolman? :laugh:

Either way, yeah I haven't seen consoles for rent in ages, I remember seeing N64's and PS1's for rent, but the price was insane.
 
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what about pool boy? I don't want Bob Vila to clean my pool.
 

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Halo was pretty fun on PC, If not better than on Console

skullfox:

a lot of those games you listed that dont suck, are pretty bland on PC. look at halo: Xbox owners think its utterly awesomesauce from god, but to PC gamers its just another shooter with aliens. the plot was average, the controls average, the only fun thing about it was the story (which i liked, btw).

lets not even bother with the price of the PC parts you listed, it can be done so easy to match a console. stick with 720p like they do on low textures, and a modest $500 PC can handle it with ease.

Have you heard about any system nowadays that can boot Windows 98?? no?? me neither that why I have lots of games catching dust.

Also, for some reason I can't install the XP on my system... he doesn't see my Raid 0 HDDs.


LOLOL:rolleyes:

Agreed...


I Believe Win 7 supports 98 games, I know XP does


and then you went to win7... again, missing the point completely. ever heard of dual boot? my system can run XP just fine if i want older games, and VM's if i want even older than that.


your comments make it sound like you made a choice without thinking about it and now you're looking for reasons to defend that choice - not that you thought about it in advance, are explaining your thought process.
 
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Halo was pretty fun on PC, If not better than on Console

i entirely agree with mussels.

the entire franchise has been mediocre shooters in terms of what pc gets, and yet are considered some of the best console games evar.

same goes for gears of war imo.
 
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the games are not revolutionary but are done well and people love them.
 
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the games are not revolutionary but are done well and people love them.

agreed, but "a well-polished turd..."

and groupthink is not the best quantifier of quality. not that i am, but just saying "people love it" doesn't necessarily mean it's any good.
 

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i entirely agree with mussels.

the entire franchise has been mediocre shooters in terms of what pc gets, and yet are considered some of the best console games evar.

same goes for gears of war imo.

I liked Border Lands. Machine guns worked the best on bugs lol
 
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agreed, but "a well-polished turd..."

and groupthink is not the best quantifier of quality. not that i am, but just saying "people love it" doesn't necessarily mean it's any good.

tell me some exclusive FPS on PC that reinvented the wheel in the last 5 years.
 
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I liked Borderlands. Machine guns worked the best on bugs lol

LIES! The shotgun works the best on the bugs! At least the armored ones. Can't wait for Borderlands 2. But I can since it won't be released until next year. Excellent co-operative play and makes me wish Hard Reset also had the same.

tell me some exclusive FPS on PC that have reinvented the wheel in the last 5 years.
I can't and I'd have to look on MobyGames. Crysis doesn't and never should count. It's more blatant eye-candy compared to a title I'd actually want to play.
 

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tell me some exclusive FPS on PC that reinvented the wheel in the last 5 years.

Minecraft (for starters :laugh:), The Dota clones (League of Legends remains one of the best F2P games out there), iRacing (track laser scanning is amazing), The entire MMO genre in the last 5 years. I can't think of any more right off the top of my head for now, but for consoles the only one I can't really think of is Little Big Planet.

But it's not about revolutionary games only. It's about fun factor, game content, and level design. Halo to me was only fun in multiplayer, which honestly any half way decent game with a bunch of friends is going to be fun.
 
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i'll give you Minecraft but it's not exclusive anymore it's coming to XBOX 360 with Kinect support :laugh:

Sony has a couple MMO and more on the way (DC Universe, The Agency, Dust 514, MAG, Final Fantasy XIV), Microsoft Game Studios is working on a couple.
 

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Minecraft (for starters :laugh:), The Dota clones (League of Legends remains one of the best F2P games out there), iRacing (track laser scanning is amazing), The entire MMO genre in the last 5 years. I can't think of any more right off the top of my head for now, but for consoles the only one I can't really think of is Little Big Planet.

But it's not about revolutionary games only. It's about fun factor, game content, and level design. Halo to me was only fun in multiplayer, which honestly any half way decent game with a bunch of friends is going to be fun.

I think you missed the FPS part. ;)
 
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tell me some exclusive FPS on PC that reinvented the wheel in the last 5 years.

i might just go back and think about that,but regardless, it's about subjective opinion and expectations.

we saw the original doom era, we saw counter strike era, and the half life era as well... we know how good a game CAN be. so when we see a game like Halo or Gears being touted as #1, we can't help but roll our eyes in disgust as it's really very bland compared to what could have been done with good sci fi story-lines and today's technology.

consoles gamers are used to crap. what are the best every console games? now measure them solely on depth and originality. and now compare that to the history of pc games.

even if it's 1:1, there were simply more pc games and so more were original unique and ... good.

and exclusivity and FPS are unnecessary modifiers anyway. especially without how many series started on pc and sold their souls.
 

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consoles gamers are used to crap. what are the best every console games? now measure them solely on depth and originality. and now compare that to the history of pc games.

even if it's 1:1, there were simply more pc games and so more were original unique and ... good.

and exclusivity and FPS are unnecessary modifiers anyway. especially without how many series started on pc and sold their souls.

Hey now, some of the best games ever made is SNES games! Console games too used to be better.
 
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Hey now, some of the best games ever made is SNES games! Console games too used to be better.

i know, and i thought of that as well, even felt bad writing it ;)

but the numbers stand. simply because of cost of licensing & carts nowhere near as many games were released on consoles as pcs. and i still remember a lot of movie tie in crap games and crap "insert popular title here" clones.

plus, it wasn't until consoles became more like pcs (disc drives, ram, pc video cards) that they exploded as they have now.
 

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LIES! The shotgun works the best on the bugs! At least the armored ones. Can't wait for Borderlands 2. But I can since it won't be released until next year. Excellent co-operative play and makes me wish Hard Reset also had the same.


I can't and I'd have to look on MobyGames. Crysis doesn't and never should count. It's more blatant eye-candy compared to a title I'd actually want to play.

ok the first Rare Machine gun, certainly worked on the heavy armed bugs, the largest spiders in the game not so much lol
 

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As an infrequent gamer my theory is PC gaming is a PITA. Every single time I install a game I have to do something to make it run right. I have to patch it, add code so it will run with my machine properly, update the video driver, or roll it back, and then after about an hour or so of this tedious crap I have just about lost interest in even trying out the game.

On the PS3 I turn it on and I play a game.

The other obvious factor is the cost...a decent rig is going to cost 3 times what a console costs, and then there is the constant pressure to upgrade the rig...but amazingly a console still plays games great year after year with no hardware upgrade.

And finally there are the games...which most serious gamers I know say play better on console. Plus console online gaming is usually part of a social network...you are playing with friends you've had for ages...they all have accounts, you can all talk and text and game seamlessly.

PC gaming is just a PITA for me.
 
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