Elder Scrolls V SKYRIM !! 11-11-11

[Super XP]

It is said that SKYRIM is going to be the greatest Graphical Masterpiece in existence for a Video Game.
And it's nice to see it grace the PC, knowing you need the PC copy to experience it's fullness.

 

[techtard]

Nothing beats the original MYST.

 

[Ahhzz]

Nothing beats the original MYST.

-1 that.

 

[Captain.Abrecan]

It is said that SKYRIM is going to be the greatest Graphical Masterpiece in existence for a Video Game.
And it's nice to see it grace the PC, knowing you need the PC copy to experience it's fullness.

For something that plays on the xbox, in 720p, upscaled to 1080, sure. 'They' can say whatever they want about that. I want 2560x1600 native engine resolution.

 

[Benetanegia]

Skyrim manual leaked.

http://imgur.com/a/RFee1#yTU7B

Ugh, I don't know why I clicked that link. I spotted something I don't like even one bit: enemies appear in the compass just like in Fallout, which is completely stupid for TES. That's what detect life spell is for ffs!!!!!!!!

It's those little details that might ruin Skyrim for me. :shadedshu

 

[TheLaughingMan]

Ugh, I don't know why I clicked that link. I spotted something I don't like even one bit: enemies appear in the compass just like in Fallout, which is completely stupid for TES. That's what detect life spell is for ffs!!!!!!!!

It's those little details that might ruin Skyrim for me. :shadedshu

Ummm, that indicator was also in Oblivion and only works for enemies you have already engaged in combat. I am sure what a maguffin has hit you in the head with someone else's head, you will take note of their immediate location. Detect Life on the other hand worked through walks and detected everything in a certain radius whether you could see it or not.

So calm down and pay attention.

P.S. Magicka creators Arrowhead Studios should sue Bethesda for using the word "magicka" just like they sued The Mind Craft guy.

 

[Benetanegia]

Ummm, that indicator was also in Oblivion and only works for enemies you have already engaged in combat.

Hmmm. NO. It doesn't. I've been playing Oblivion until like... umm 1 minute ago.

I am sure what a maguffin has hit you in the head with someone else's head, you will take note of their immediate location. Detect Life on the other hand worked through walks and detected everything in a certain radius whether you could see it or not.

So calm down and pay attention.

Don't patronize thank you, at least until you get your facts straight. Plus if an enemy hits me I'll know because, if he is standing next to me... umm I can see him?? idk maybe? Or if he was hidden and used a ranged attack... like I don't want to know where he is, because I simply shouldn't be able to?

This shit kills immersion. In Fallout it makes some sense since it's part of the skills/attributes, but in TES there's detect life for that purpose. TES fans we don't need that kid cuddling + consolitis shit thank you very much.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

Hmmm. NO. It doesn't. I've been playing Oblivion until like... umm 1 minute ago.



Don't patronize thank you, at least until you get your facts straight. Plus if an enemy hits me I'll know because, if he is standing next to me... umm I can see him?? idk maybe? Or if he was hidden and used a ranged attack... like I don't want to know where he is, because I simply shouldn't be able to?

This shit kills immersion. In Fallout it makes some sense since it's part of the skills/attributes, but in TES there's detect life for that purpose. TES fans we don't need that kid cuddling + consolitis shit thank you very much.

It to make up for real life things like a human beings sense of danger, sense of motion, and sense of placement. If someone hits you with a bat, then moves behind you, you know approximately where he is. You can do this in a game, so the ability is simulated.

You are correct that Oblivion did not do this. I will give you that. Though you should take note this is THE INSTRUCTION MANUAL. They have to explain everything, even if it only applies to special situations. This is to avoid confusing the stupid. For all we know, those indicators on come up after you cast something like Detect Life or some ability like Sense of the Dragon. The point being that no one knows and I can make up BS all I want. Thats why this is a forum.

 

[Benetanegia]

It to make up for real life things like a human beings sense of danger, sense of motion, and sense of placement. If someone hits you with a bat, then moves behind you, you know approximately where he is. You can do this in a game, so the ability is simulated.

You are correct that Oblivion did not do this. I will give you that. Though you should take note this is THE INSTRUCTION MANUAL. They have to explain everything, even if it only applies to special situations. This is to avoid confusing the stupid. For all we know, those indicators on come up after you cast something like Detect Life or some ability like Sense of the Dragon. The point being that no one knows and I can make up BS all I want. Thats why this is a forum.

Again... if I'm fighting someone I'll know where he is don't need that stupid thing. And anyway wanna bet that it's not what you say but exactly like in Fallout 3? In fact IT IS 100% like in F3. I can make things up too.

EDIT: My "rage" is not directed at that single feature btw, it's because I know of many other similar things, plus dozens that I still don't know about yet, but I'm sure will be there. Games being constantly dumbed down is a fact, a trend, and I have full rights to be mad about that. The gaming crowd is more and more mature, as we grow up, but there's almost literally 0 games for mature people. We have the buying power, the money and they don't make games for us, also they dumb down the ones that in the past were sorta as mature, yet they cannot figure out why they don't sell many games as they want (specially on PC)? Kids pirate because they have no money and you don't fucking create games for the ones who can pay for them, that's why.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

Again... if I'm fighting someone I'll know where he is don't need that stupid thing. And anyway wanna bet that it's not what you say but exactly like in Fallout 3? In fact IT IS 100% like in F3. I can make things up too.

There you go. Now we are on the same page. Until the game is released, its all just guess work and conjecture. Hell, they admitted the UI was going to be overhauled after they let some people play the game at E3 or Pax or something. So honestly, screenshots of the game and information about the UI is now bunk as it may no longer be true. Hell, this manual could just be a mock and half these indicators could be BS.

 

[1Kurgan1]

How long does it take someone to beat Skyrim who knows the game like the back of their hand? Well that question had now been answered. (This spoiler contains no story line info, or anything else, it's just about 1 QA guy vs 1 Dev from Bethesda going at it)

Spoiler

“The speedrun is my World Cup or Olympics, it’s my favorite event that comes every three or four years.” – Todd Howard

As tradition goes, when Bethesda Game Studios is close to wrapping up development on a title, we hold a speedrun competition through the main quest (with no cheats allowed). While the game will take many hours to complete for a first-time players, our developers have years of experience under their belts and know all the ins and outs for speeding through the game. The contest pits the best Bethesda Game Studios has to offer vs. the best of QA The person with the best time wins a trophy and gets a pie of their choice from Todd Howard.

When it came time to crown the Skyrim champion, two familiar faces rose to the occasion: Sam “I Am” Bernstein (QA) and Jeff “Live the Dream” Browne (BGS) — the very same combatants from the Fallout 3 speedrun three years back. Loyal blog readers might recall I said the match was as close as Michael Phelps .01 second escape in the 2008 Summer Games.

If Fallout 3′s speed run was that close, the Skyrim contest was… well, I can’t think of something closer than that Michael Phelps race. But this one was crazier — crazy like the final minute of this year’s Michigan-Notre Dame game.

At the beginning of the Skyrim speedrun, I asked Sam how long he anticipated it would take. He predicted two hours, fifteen minutes. He wasn’t far off. In the end, Jeff Browne finished the game first with an impressive time of minutes 2:16:30.

Congrats to Jeff, right? WRONG! 58 minutes into the competition, Sam had to roll back to an earlier save (ruled fair by the judging committee), so we had to wait several minutes after Jeff completed the main quest to compare their final times. Despite taking a totally different route to get to the endgame (in the Fallout 3 speedrun, they had virtually the same game plan), Sam’s time was 2:16:10 — 20 seconds faster than Jeff!!

For Jeff, it’s a heartbreaking loss. He’s the Buffalo Bills of speedruns (and he actually roots for the Bills). But no matter what, Jeff Browne is awesome.

And for the second game, congrats to Sam on being the Speedrun Champion! He showed the heart of a champion and will be celebrating later this month with a pumpkin pie from Todd Howard..

Update: Folks are asking how the Skyrim speedrun stacks up to previous competitions.The Skyrim speedrun took just over an hour more than both Oblivion and Fallout 3.

Source

 

[Captain.Abrecan]

I really want to hate this game (for some reason), but I will end up pre-ordering it next friday anyways. I have a soft spot for Bethesda. The main plot better involve more class warfare and faction warfare than oblivion did. Morrowind shit all over Oblivion in that department. The factions were useless and not related to the main quest at all in Oblivion

 

[Captain.Abrecan]

Pre-ordered because Max von Sydow.

 

[Kwod]

Who did FOVegas?....they seemed to get gameplay right, and also got difficulty levels right as well.
There's every reason to think Skyrim will be good, the only question is will it be great or hampered by consolitis.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Who did FOVegas?....they seemed to get gameplay right, and also got difficulty levels right as well.
There's every reason to think Skyrim will be good, the only question is will it be great or hampered by consolitis.

Obsidian did F:NV.

And it will suffer consolitis, the question is how bad. Betheseda have came flat out and said the engine was made for console, but have also held strong on the modding front. So one bad thing and one good thing. Even being built as a console engine though, it's most likely going to be an improvement, simply because the previous engine is almost a decade old, even a console engine can be put to better use now.

 

[techtard]

Haven't played FO:NV because of Obsidian's involvement. They have great ideas, but usually poor execution.
Is it actually worth playing? Might pick it up and give it a go before Skyrim comes out.

 

[1Kurgan1]

I had fun with NV, I know some liked FO3 better. But I prefer NV. Though with how close Skyrim is, I personally wouldn't start a game that has that much to do and time you could sink in.

 

[techtard]

Good point. Will wait for the Steam winter sale and grab it cheap though.

 

[Kwod]

Haven't played FO:NV because of Obsidian's involvement. They have great ideas, but usually poor execution.
Is it actually worth playing? Might pick it up and give it a go before Skyrim comes out.

FOVegas has better gameplay, and if you add the NCM 4gig dl extracted to 7gig texture pack, you have quite a beautiful game at times, certainly better than vanilla.

Vegas also has weapons and ammo mods, so u can turn a lowly pea shooter into something relatively powerful, and there's like 6-7 sniper rifles, including the "anti material rifle" with 50cal bullets.....and you'll need them to take on the billion deathclaws in the game.

There's also a number of grenade launchers, and these mofo's can also be upgraded+Vegas has huge difficulty levels, so if you want to put yourself under extreme pressure, you can.

No one could play Vegas and like it and then just forget about FO3, that's crazy, both games are epic, but Vegas has better weapons, and higher difficulty if u want to engage it.

 

[Kwod]

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but have also held strong on the modding front. So one bad thing and one good thing. .

Sounds good.....it'll also be interesting to see what they've done with lighting at night etc.

 

[Super XP]

Is the PC version of Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim being ported over from the Console version? I bloody Hope Not. How on earth can you create such a game on an inferior setup when the PC is over 10x more powerful and graphical?

 

[techtard]

Because that's how Zenimax rolls. They know consoles are a huge market and they(console users) are more used to shelling out $$$ for DLC than PC users. It's easier to develop for a targeted platform than it us to try to optimize for the wide range of PC configurations available.

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

Is the PC version of Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim being ported over from the Console version? I bloody Hope Not. How on earth can you create such a game on an inferior setup when the PC is over 10x more powerful and graphical?

Indeed. We often state (and chuckle over) the same thing over in the BF3 Clubhouse.

Because that's how Zenimax rolls. They know consoles are a huge market and they(console users) are more used to shelling out $$$ for DLC than PC users. It's easier to develop for a targeted platform than it us to try to optimize for the wide range of PC configurations available.

Of course, it's all about money and market share. As I've said before I can't blame the devs and publishers it's just that it sucks when PC users get the shaft as a result. This title and BF3 are kind of the exceptions to the rule in terms of PC focus and superiority of product, unfortunately.

 

[Kreij]

Read this if you want some insight into consoles vs. PC in game development.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Is the PC version of Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim being ported over from the Console version? I bloody Hope Not. How on earth can you create such a game on an inferior setup when the PC is over 10x more powerful and graphical?

Yep, thats how they are doing it. But it's not really surprising as they had been using an aged engine for a long time anyways.