Elder Scrolls V SKYRIM !! 11-11-11

[happita]

One can hope for an MP mod though

Oblivion had a MP mod. Never tried it though.

yeah...by todays 'visual' standards you might want to skip Morrowind. Even heavily modded it still looks like poo. Awesome game though if you don't mind the very dated graphics.

Oblivion was awesome too in many ways. I do have very high hopes for Skyrim. I bloody can't wait.

Of course it looks like poo if you compare it to today's standards. In it's time it looked great, actually the first time I got to see water in DX9 I remember having a top of the line 9700 pro and a somewhat decent P4 2.4GHz Northwood and I still wasn't able to break the 50fps barrier. Averaged around 30. I hope Skyrim is somewhat scalable across low to high-end systems. I don't remember how many times Morrowind randomly crashed on me, and even Oblivion from time to time.

 

[yogurt_21]

Oblivion had a MP mod. Never tried it though.



Of course it looks like poo if you compare it to today's standards. In it's time it looked great, actually the first time I got to see water in DX9 I remember having a top of the line 9700 pro and a somewhat decent P4 2.4GHz Northwood and I still wasn't able to break the 50fps barrier. Averaged around 30. I hope Skyrim is somewhat scalable across low to high-end systems. I don't remember how many times Morrowind randomly crashed on me, and even Oblivion from time to time.

my guess is console support should make that a non-issue

 

[Ahhzz]

boo-hiss to console support..... just me

 

[Horrux]

my guess is console support should make that a non-issue

Yeah I have one disappointment about Skyrim already: a mid-high-end gamer PC will be able to max it at high FPS, contrarily to Morrowind and Oblivion which would bring everyone's dream PC to its knees begging for mercy back when they were launched. Which means no playthrough in 3 years with the brand new hardware with "OMFG I'm finally going to see it in its full glory!!" type of glee...

PCs are waaaay too far ahead of consoles right now, which means new games releases will tend to be easily maxed because developers aren't doing a super-high-end job for the top-end hardware when the consoles run the game at what is barely "medium" on PC, at 30fps, on 720p and have trouble keeping up.

I was hoping Skyrim would keep with the previous trend in that regard, as it does give a game quite a bit more longevity as in, it wouldn't "look like poo" 4 years from now. But it will. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by Battlefield 3 in this regard.

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

Yeah I cannot max BF3 yet or even run it to my liking IQ-wise. As it should be with my high mid-range system on a new AAA title.

 

[BondExtreme]

With my Q6600, I am sure I can still max this game out running at 60fps

 

[happita]

With my Q6600, I am sure I can still max this game out running at 60fps

I don't have BF3, but from what I've been hearing, its hard to max it out. Your Q6600 and 5850 won't be able to sustain 60fps....MAYBE with AA and the extras off, I don't know. It depends on what res your going to play it at also of course.

 

[Super XP]

In order to fully max out this game you will have to run a Crossfire or SLI setup with a HD 6950/6970, HD 5870/5850. Anything lower than a HD 5870 won't do it, not even the HD 4870's in Crossfire would have enough power to fully max out this game and sustain a nice 60fps.

I used to have 2 x HD 4870's running in Crossfire, and it was difficult to max Oblivion let alone this new game which is suppose to be MASSIVE with over 100+ hrs to finish, and that is if you know where to go step by step. Add in the side quests and you are looking at another 50hrs to 80hrs.

New Trailer - And it's good.
http://www.fudzilla.com/games/item/24696-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-gets-a-new-trailer

 

[Kreij]

yeah...by todays 'visual' standards you might want to skip Morrowind.

If you skip Morrowind, you will be skipping the best game in the ES series up to this point, IMO.

 

[Horrux]

In order to fully max out this game you will have to run a Crossfire or SLI setup with a HD 6950/6970, HD 5870/5850. Anything lower than a HD 5870 won't do it, not even the HD 4870's in Crossfire would have enough power to fully max out this game and sustain a nice 60fps.

I used to have 2 x HD 4870's running in Crossfire, and it was difficult to max Oblivion let alone this new game which is suppose to be MASSIVE with over 100+ hrs to finish, and that is if you know where to go step by step. Add in the side quests and you are looking at another 50hrs to 80hrs.

New Trailer - And it's good.
http://www.fudzilla.com/games/item/24696-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-gets-a-new-trailer

Can you post your sources about system performance?

All I could find, on here, was the following:

Recommended Specs

Windows 7/Vista/XP PC (32 or 64 bit)
Processor: Quad-core Intel or AMD CPU
4GB System RAM
6GB free HDD space
DirectX 9.0c compatible NVIDIA or AMD ATI video card with 1GB of RAM (Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 or higher (i.e GTX550Ti); ATI Radeon 4890 or higher).
DirectX compatible sound card
Internet access for Steam activation

Looking at these, it looks like a couple 4870s in crossfire will likely max it, with crossfire 6970s or SLI GTX 570s being in the overkill department, if gaming at standard resolutions.

 

[BumbleBee]

i'm so jealous

 

[1Kurgan1]

In order to fully max out this game you will have to run a Crossfire or SLI setup with a HD 6950/6970, HD 5870/5850. Anything lower than a HD 5870 won't do it, not even the HD 4870's in Crossfire would have enough power to fully max out this game and sustain a nice 60fps.

I used to have 2 x HD 4870's running in Crossfire, and it was difficult to max Oblivion let alone this new game which is suppose to be MASSIVE with over 100+ hrs to finish, and that is if you know where to go step by step. Add in the side quests and you are looking at another 50hrs to 80hrs.

When the Gamebryo engine came out, CF or SLI were still in their infancy. Same with Dual cores (now we run 4+ cores). The problems oyu had maxing it out didn't come from the game pushing your hardware in the right way. It came from the game not being optimized for current hardware. Now days things are made to just use the cores you got, in the past, everything was just made to use 1 core. And multi-GPU setups... for sure weren't made for that. I expect Skyrim to run easier and look better.

i'm so jealous

Zoolander quote ftw!

 

[ViperXTR]

When the Gamebryo engine came out, CF or SLI were still in their infancy. Same with Dual cores (now we run 4+ cores). The problems oyu had maxing it out didn't come from the game pushing your hardware in the right way. It came from the game not being optimized for current hardware. Now days things are made to just use the cores you got, in the past, everything was just made to use 1 core. And multi-GPU setups... for sure weren't made for that. I expect Skyrim to run easier and look better.

+1 to This, just look at Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas, it ran easier on current hardware (even when heavily modded)

 

[1Kurgan1]

+1 to This, just look at Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas, it ran easier on current hardware (even when heavily modded)

They did run better, but still felt like hammered shit to me. Ran numerous CF setups with FO3 and New Vegas, I could run all the mods I wanted, except texture packs, instant I touched them, despite what hardware I had, just destroyed my games performance. So much so that I usually just stopped playing, so I'm eagerly awaiting Skyrim, finally a modern engine. Just sad that console was the lead, but even considering that it should be leaps and bounds above Gamebryo, and we will still be able to mod, so I'm happy with that.

 

[ViperXTR]

i heard its still a heavily modded gamebryo (well from one of the interview, they said they changes so much of it they had to make a name for it).

The engine (gamebryo) reminds me of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'s engine (Xray), game apparently uses 1 thread (through process manager) and you can make it run in 2 threads by some sort of trick (switching affinity disabled then enabled).

 

[theJesus]

preorder around here just has the map and some weird book.


all i wanted was the map and the strategy guide in one bundle, but nooooo. or a mug or something useful.

pfft, fuck that shit, UESP is the shit

 

[BumbleBee]

the strategy guide is a 600 page hardcover and comes with a poster, interactive map and probably some art. I like to collect them because they look good on your shelf and you don't have to alt-tab when you need help.

 

[theJesus]

the strategy guide is a 600 page hardcover and comes with a poster, interactive map and probably some art. I like to collect them because they look good on your shelf and you don't have to alt-tab when you need help.

I was partially joking. I bought guides for Morrowind and Oblivion, but I still use UESP for a lot of stuff too.

 

[BumbleBee]

oh ok <crosses her eyes> lol

 

[theJesus]

oh ok <crosses her eyes> lol

Look at it like this: Do you want to buy a whole new guide when an expansion pack gets released?

 

[BumbleBee]

if you don't buy the strategy guide it will cost a lot more next year. strategy guides can cost up to $200.

 

[Solaris17]

yeah...by todays 'visual' standards you might want to skip Morrowind. Even heavily modded it still looks like poo. Awesome game though if you don't mind the very dated graphics.

Oblivion was awesome too in many ways. I do have very high hopes for Skyrim. I bloody can't wait.

Actually did you know that I made a patch for the MGE (morrowind graphics extender) and helped people trouble shoot various problems with it and morrowind (hence the patch) so that people could play morrowind while making it look its best?

i was sad though MGE was shortly pulled because a bunch of artists started complaining that the author of the MGE didnt try hard enough to contact them when asking permission to use their MODs in a package. so it needed to be pulled.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

I will be so proud of the fact my character will look absolutely nothing like the guy in the videos and this manikin.

 

[theJesus]

if you don't buy the strategy guide it will cost a lot more next year. strategy guides can cost up to $200.

I'm not saying I won't get it, but I'll definitely wait for the updated version after the inevitable expansion(s) are released. Now if they would offer smaller guides exclusively for the expansion(s) and at an appropriately reduced price, then it would be different. However, as it stands, I refuse to purchase two full-price guides for the same game.

 

[Ahhzz]

I've pre-ordered the strat guide (for $16, plus a Serenity book I've been waiting to order) just because of the class/build guides. I will pretty much play the same way I like to always play (ranged, with a touch of stealth and a hint of magic), but I will appreciate the ability to fine tune my choices with some assistance