Help me decide on some NEW RAM? :)

Melvis · Nov 6, 2011

Hi guys,

Looks like i have some faulty RAM in my system. I have been having some random BSOD's for the past few months and i thought it was just a crossfire thing and Drivers. Anyway lately its been even more a problem so i updated the BIOS and the issues got even worse :ohwell:

Id have to reset all my RAM timings back to what they where and so i did this and the system wouldnt even boot into windows and when it did it just crashed. After alot of playing around i got it to run pretty good for a good 16hrs without a issue, but later today it went back to BSOD ing alot so i thought hmm something has to be wrong, so ive got memtest running as we speak and its found 2 errors so far in the past 5ish hrs.

So im looking for some new RAM, now i like my Corsair and i wouldnt mind trying some G.Skill either, ive had it before in my old FX-57 rig and they was great for 5yrs with out an issue.

Ive put up some links to some RAM that is in my price range and what seems to fit my needs and likes, question is what one should i get?

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=14097

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=14643

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=16459

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=12495

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=13894

All comments welcome :toast:

Oh also ive heard that AMD systems (Phenom II) seem to like 1.65v over 1.5v? for RAM is that correct?

heky · Nov 6, 2011

I would take the 3rd option. Just becouse its a 8Gb kit, all others are 4Gb. Other than that, i would take the G.Skill PI(first option).

Melvis · Nov 6, 2011

heky said:
I would take the 3rd option. Just becouse its a 8Gb kit, all others are 4Gb. Other than that, i would take the G.Skill PI(first option).

Yep fair enough, i do plan on getting 8GB total anyway, that one there just happens to be 8Gb off the bat.

I also like the first option as those timings are great.

heky · Nov 6, 2011

Well if you are planing to get 8Gb anyway, than i would say 2x G.Skill PI will let your rig fly. :toast:

Melvis · Nov 6, 2011

heky said:
Well if you are planing to get 8Gb anyway, than i would say 2x G.Skill PI will let your rig fly.

Sweet i was leaning towards that one as well

Melvis · Nov 7, 2011

Though those ripjaws are tempting because of the price!! So cheap.

n-ster · Nov 7, 2011

Would go 3rd option as well, as you won't have to fill your RAM slots and it is the cheapest per GB along with the 4th option

The first ones would be my second choice... But is there a 2x4GB version?

If you care less about speed and more bout bang/buck
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=16930

There are also the 65$ 2x4GB 1600 cl9 or 1333 cl7 versions

or there is this 59$ 2x2GB 2000 mhz cl10 one that you can hope to downclock and tighten timings to

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=17100

Melvis · Nov 7, 2011

n-ster said:
Would go 3rd option as well, as you won't have to fill your RAM slots and it is the cheapest per GB along with the 4th option

The first ones would be my second choice... But is there a 2x4GB version?

If you care less about speed and more bout bang/buck
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=16930

There are also the 65$ 2x4GB 1600 cl9 or 1333 cl7 versions

To true, argh so many options and there all good.

No that is the only option they give you is the 2x4GB for those ones.

I would like to stay with 1600Mhz as thats what im running now, just trying to get something that are about the same

Just got off the phone to the place i got my original RAM from and they will accept it back under warranty, just wish i new what they would be sending back :ohwell:

AsRock · Nov 7, 2011

If i was after some more 1600 ram i would get some more Ripjaws 2x4GB.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13931

n-ster · Nov 7, 2011

I've had problems with Ripjaws multiple times though, in AMD setups as well as other setups (but they work fine on my X58)

JrRacinFan · Nov 7, 2011

Before you do anything. Is your CPU still overclocked? How high was your temps on the CPU and what voltage were you running most of the time?

Also which rig is it for?

Melvis · Nov 7, 2011

JrRacinFan said:
Before you do anything. Is your CPU still overclocked? How high was your temps on the CPU and what voltage were you running most of the time?

Also which rig is it for?

It is for the first Rig, quadfire, and the CPU isnt OC at all, never has been.

AsRock · Nov 7, 2011

n-ster said:
I've had problems with Ripjaws multiple times though, in AMD setups as well as other setups (but they work fine on my X58)

Working perfect for me on my AMD setup. I do use about 10GB of it too as a run a Ramdrive, and like every other weekend system is up 72 hours a time for running dedicated a game dedicated server. and i run them slightly faster than they say they can do CL8 and not CL9.

JrRacinFan · Nov 7, 2011

Melvis said:
It is for the first Rig, quadfire, and the CPU isnt OC at all, never has been.

never above 55c and always stock voltage or undervolted? Just want to make sure not IMC.

Melvis · Nov 7, 2011

JrRacinFan said:
never above 55c and always stock voltage or undervolted? Just want to make sure not IMC.

Correct that seems about right. Stock volts. :toast:

JrRacinFan · Nov 7, 2011

Melvis said:
Correct that seems about right. Stock volts.

Ok. Cool proceed! Remember, 2x4GB and anything above 1600mhz dram the returns are minimal

Melvis · Dec 3, 2011

So guys i went with option number 1 but i have had nothing but issues, blue screens, crashes, freezes its driving me nuts.

I cant even get it to run stable at 1600MHz at ANY timings, it just crashes. Only time its stable is if its at 1333MHz and some crappy timings.

I have tried different BIOS's, different timings, volts nothing seems to work

I took this RAM to my m8 to see how it would run on his Intel system, it ran perfectly :S
So i took his RAM to see how it would run in mine (Corsair Vengence 1600MHz 9-9-9-24) But i cant even run his with out crashing, best i can do at the moment is 1600MHz at 11-11-11-27.

What the fuck is going on? can anyone help? driving me nuts =/

theJesus · Dec 3, 2011

Is your board under warranty? I'd put in a support ticket and see if they'll replace it. Could also be the CPU, don't they have integrated memory controllers nowadays?

Melvis · Dec 3, 2011

theJesus said:
Is your board under warranty? I'd put in a support ticket and see if they'll replace it. Could also be the CPU, don't they have integrated memory controllers nowadays?

Yea the board is about 1.5yrs old, i might have to do this :S but ill wait till my other RAM gets back from RMA first to see what my next move is. Yes they do, and i dont think it be a CPU issue.

n-ster · Dec 3, 2011

Try bumping up the memory controller's voltage (VDDNB?) a few notches

Melvis · Dec 4, 2011

n-ster said:
Try bumping up the memory controller's voltage (VDDNB?) a few notches

The North Bridge voltage control? is that what you mean? I think its set at 1v?

MilkyWay · Dec 4, 2011

Melvis said:
The North Bridge voltage control? is that what you mean? I think its set at 1v?

CPU/NB volts ala memory controller. You should have bumped this up to about 2.6ghz erocker knows a bit more but bumping up the CPU/NB but it helps a lot for overall performance but i digress. I dont see that if your CPU/NB voltage and speeds are at stock it would effect the ram.

I honestly think if you cant get it stable at it stock settings, i second looking into an RMA.

Melvis · Dec 4, 2011

MilkyWay said:
CPU/NB volts ala memory controller. You should have bumped this up to about 2.6ghz erocker knows a bit more but bumping up the CPU/NB but it helps a lot for overall performance but i digress. I dont see that if your CPU/NB voltage and speeds are at stock it would effect the ram.

I honestly think if you cant get it stable at it stock settings, i second looking into an RMA.

Mmk, 2.6ghz? that sounds a bit high to me.

I have nothing overclocked and im just trying to get the ram to run at its recommended timings and speed, id be happy with 1600MHz 8-8-8-24, but i cant even get 1600MHz with out crashing =/

Melvis · Dec 10, 2011

Any other ideas? ill need some help with trying to get this ram to run stable if anyone wants to help out?

JrRacinFan · Dec 10, 2011

For now try running them 1333 cl8 2T, same voltage they are specc'd to. Essentially running 1600 ANY TIMINGS is overclocking the IMC on your 965 BE AND 1055t, therefore requiring a bump in voltage in CPU-NB settings.

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