Gaming pc

[Mr.Alaska]

Is there a switch to turn off the lights on the fans? I found Corsair Graphite today. Same inside as the Corsair obsidian but with a side mesh panel for extra fans.

 

[Irony]

Yeah, they have a switch. It turns off the LEDs on the front fan.

Obsidians are pricey. I guess not anymore than a HAF x... They have some conveniences like slide out HDD trays and click in 5.25 bays; which CM cases also have.

 

[John Doe]

You don't need no 1000W of shit.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-sli-review/13

578W peak on an OC'ed, watercooled i7 965 machine with CCFL's from the wall. And that's not even DC power. You have to convert AC to DC, which then would equal about 500W. And take off an another 50W because their setup is more intensive than yours. 450W for 570 SLi. Nothing even a 750W PSU can't handle.

 

[linoliveira]

My opinion on your build is very simple:
Wait for the Radeon 7900 Series launch in January and see how they perform and then build a powerful system at the time.
You don't need a 430$ board to overclock a 2600k to 4.5GHz or more... a 200$ board is more than enough (Asus, MSI, AsRock, wich you can't go wrong with them atm) and save that 200$ to improve something in your rig (dual GPU's maybe?).

CPU: i7 2600k - 319$
Board: AsRock Extreme4 Gen3 - 184$ (because i own one and love it :b but as i said, other boards from Asus and MSI are top choices)
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 1600MHz CL9 - 29$
PSU: OCZ ZX 1000W - 199$ (just in case you want your system very power hungry xD)
SSD: Mushkin Chronos 120GB - 184$ (i have no reason to recommend SSD's larger than 120GB, because i have a 120GB one and i find it enough for a gamer)
GPU: as I stated before, wait for the 7900 Series from AMD and place your bet on the best choice at the time.
Case: I Can recommend the Carbide 500R (129$) its a damn good case, and fits the mobo color scheme a review with lots of photos can be found Here.
Cooling: you can take a look Here for a review on some good coolers available today (with good photos on how it fits the mobo and the RAM slot area), if you like one, pick it, all are good performers (the NH-C14 is the top one tho :b).

And that's 1044$ counting with NO rebates, so it may be cheaper with it. I know you might want a powerful board than this, if so, do it, but the rest i think its the best in slot for the price .
Hope i did good recommendations on your budget (yeah, bash me for AsRock mobo :b)
Good luck on you'r build!


EDIT:

You don't need no 1000W of shit.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-sli-review/13

578W peak on an OC'ed, watercooled i7 965 machine with CCFL's from the wall. And that's not even DC power. You have to convert AC to DC, which then would equal about 500W. And take off an another 50W because their setup is more intensive than yours. 450W for 570 SLi. Nothing even a 750W PSU can't handle.

I think you got a point here
In that case, best choice maybe is this one: OCZ ZX 850W - 169$ (rebate to 139$ !!!)

 

[John Doe]

OCZ ZX 1000W - 199$ (just in case you want your system very power hungry xD)

His system obviously isn't "very power hungry". Even if it was, 850W is all you need for 570 SLi. Even 750W is sufficient for him.

Though for the price, this is the best PSU on Newegg right now.

TOPOWER POWERBIRD TOP-900W 900W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS1...

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article/2008/10/07/topower_powerbird_series_power_supplies/8

It gets 30/10mV ripple pulling 900W in the hot box. Upper limits for dirty power is 120/50mV.

 

[Irony]

I like linoliveira's setup, Although you may not need that big of a PSU.

As for cooling, I would have to recommend the NH-D14 to the C14. Awesome cooler.

 

[Mr.Alaska]

I should probably update my first post with what my potential build will be. John Doe I was strongly considering the GTX 580 so there will be quite a but more power being used if I over clock them in them I think...

You don't need a 430$ board to overclock a 2600k to 4.5GHz or more... a 200$ board is more than enough (Asus, MSI, AsRock, wich you can't go wrong with them atm) and save that 200$ to improve something in your rig (dual GPU's maybe?).

The more I read the more I am starting to agree with the board and I am looking into other ASUS options. And everyone is telling me games are pretty much not going to use hyper threading in the next year and the price difference isn't worth it for the I7 so I am going with the I5 2500K.

 

[John Doe]

I should probably update my first post with what my potential build will be. John Doe I was strongly considering the GTX 580 so there will be quite a but more power being used if I over clock them in them I think...

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-sli-review/14

710W peak from the wall again on their power hungry machine. A PSU rated at continous output will power it for the operational lifetime of the unit.

The PowerBird 900 I linked to is well sufficient for your machine.

 

[Mr.Alaska]

So I am going to assume that thats with OC GPU's. When I read it this morning I was thinking only the CPU was OC'ed.

 

[John Doe]

720W is from the plug, not from the PSU itself. You have to convert AC to DC by counting in inefficiencies, which usually is from %85. If I assume 650W, then you have to pull of an another 50W because of their setup. They have CCFL lights, their setup is watercooled and the CPU they use is more power hungry than yours. You'd pull 600W abouts stock, say 650-700W with an OC. A solid 900W unit can easily handle it.

 

[linoliveira]

I should probably update my first post with what my potential build will be. John Doe I was strongly considering the GTX 580 so there will be quite a but more power being used if I over clock them in them I think...



The more I read the more I am starting to agree with the board and I am looking into other ASUS options. And everyone is telling me games are pretty much not going to use hyper threading in the next year and the price difference isn't worth it for the I7 so I am going with the I5 2500K.

I think you would make a big mistake not to wait for Radeon 7900 Series, but the decision is yous.
As for games "using Hyperthreading" (translation: using more than 2/4 cores) that is about to change when the new consoles come out (god knows when), or when some one decides to pay decent programmers do make nice ports for the PC optimized for Multithreading.
You said your taste was a future proof machine, so i gave you one future proof CPU

 

[Mr.Alaska]

720W is from the plug, not from the PSU itself. You have to convert AC to DC by counting in inefficiencies, which usually is from %85. If I assume 650W, then you have to pull of an another 50W because of their setup. They have CCFL lights, their setup is watercooled and the CPU they use is more power hungry than yours. You'd pull 600W abouts stock, say 650-700W with an OC. A solid 900W unit can easily handle it.

I know its from the wall but for some reason I didn't think they over clocked the GPU's so I thought I would need more power. Thanks for clearing this up and I will probably stay with a 850W PSU now.

I think you would make a big mistake not to wait for Radeon 7900 Series, but the decision is yous.

This isn't going down till January so we will see how it goes then and go from there but for now the GTX 580 is on the list.

 

[John Doe]

I know its from the wall but for some reason I didn't think they over clocked the GPU's so I thought I would need more power. Thanks for clearing this up and I will probably stay with a 850W PSU now.

An OC doesn't add more than 50-100W anyway. Yep, the AX850 is a good unit. However, the PowerBird 900 I suggested is better. It's fully modular, cheaper and regulates better. I picked one up for my other machine a while ago and it looks very nice with the shiny chrome finish.

 

[Mr.Alaska]

An OC doesn't add more than 50-100W anyway.

This is the answer I have been looking for all day!


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Here is a update on what I am currently considering. Open to suggestions on everything and nothing is final. Should I update my first post?


Motherboard: Open to suggestions.

CPU: [url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072]I7-2500K[/url] Intel Core i7-2600K - $279.99

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO - $33.99

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $29.99

Case: Corsair Graphite - $159.99

SSD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III - $209.99 Maybe the 256 one

Hard Drive: I was told to wait till prices come down.

GPU: MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr III - $499.99 Waiting till Jan to see what prices do. Possible downgrade to 570 or AMD GPU

PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 - $189.99

DVD Burner: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - $19.99

Total: $1,363.93

 

[John Doe]

The Hyper is a budget cooler. Not that it's bad, it's a good cooler and would be sufficient, but if you want, you can get something like a Noctua NH-D14 (dual tower) as was suggested before. Or a Thermaltake Frio if you want a smaller one (single tower).

As for the PSU again, you're better off with the Topower PowerBird 900. Don't fall for the Corsair name, my suggestion is a better unit. There're better deals than Corsair unless you want to pay for the Corsair name.

This is the AX850, single transformer desing.

This one OTOH is the PowerBird 900 with dual-transformer/more coils (higher quality) and heatsinks.

 

[Mr.Alaska]

As for the PSU again, you're better off with the Topower PowerBird 900. Don't fall for the Corsair name, my suggestion is a better unit. There're better deals than Corsair unless you want to pay for the Corsair name.

I know but my first post was a mess and I was simply updated with what I currently had in my new egg cart. I am taking everything you all said into consideration. I will looking into everything probably tomorrow and give a update on what I have decided.

 

[Irony]

Momentary change of subject: Your avatar's awesome, linolivera.

Subject resumed.

Edit: I bought the RAM you're looking at today, so when it comes I can give you a synapsical review of how good they are.

 

[Mr.Alaska]

The Hyper is a budget cooler. Not that it's bad, it's a good cooler and would be sufficient, but if you want, you can get something like a Noctua NH-D14 (dual tower) as was suggested before. Or a Thermaltake Frio if you want a smaller one (single tower).

Your pictures kinda distracted me on the first read-through of this. Would I be better off going liquid cooled at this price? Something like the H60?

 

[Mr.Alaska]

Any way to delete this? Editing fail

 

[John Doe]

Your pictures kinda distracted me on the first read-through of this. Would I be better off going liquid cooled at this price? Something like the H60?

lol. Yeah, you can try all-in-one water as well. A H80 would be better off. Though, a solid cooler would be more reliable.

 

[Mr.Alaska]

I like the full reviews I found on the PowerBird 900 but it looks like I get to learn about single and multi rails tomorrow.

 

[Irony]

The corsair all in one water coolers are just about as simple as air coolers to install.

Heres a comparison with idle and max temps.

 

[JrRacinFan]

My suggestion, get a 560Ti for now instead of the 580. Seems logical with the new stuff coming out rather soon, I foresee them within the next 6 months. Just my speculation though. Regarding cooling, it doesnt matter what you get, between the cheapest Hyper 212+ and the expensive H100. they both would work out fine.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

here's my 2600k OC'ed to 4.2ghz under a corsair A50 heatsink running under full load crunching 8 threads-

 

[user25]

Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS IV GENE-Z